Cricket Season Thread

[Cultured_Bogan]

Two things have changed that have attributed to Aussie success. Ponting is no longer in the team and Arthur is no longer coach. It makes a difference having a coach the players want to play for ….. I'm not sure our league team have that yet .... Time will tell I guess.

I'm with you F2B .... I don't like some of the crap they go on with either. Wonder if the day will come when someone retaliates in a way that's never been seen before. We saw Miandad threaten Lillee with a bat and blokes shaping up to each other. Wonder if the day will come when someone throws one !

I think there are three key factors:

1\. Lehmann;
2\. McDermott as bowling coach;
3\. No injuries thus far and scrapping of the rotation system.

The look like they are not only playing well, but enjoying it and most importantly playing for each other. It looks like the dressing room has put all the BS aside and when they walk out onto the oval they are giving it their all for the team.

 

[system]

Two things have changed that have attributed to Aussie success. Ponting is no longer in the team and Arthur is no longer coach. It makes a difference having a coach the players want to play for ….. I'm not sure our league team have that yet .... Time will tell I guess.

I'm with you F2B .... I don't like some of the crap they go on with either. Wonder if the day will come when someone retaliates in a way that's never been seen before. We saw Miandad threaten Lillee with a bat and blokes shaping up to each other. Wonder if the day will come when someone throws one !

I think there are three key factors:

1\. Lehmann;
2\. McDermott as bowling coach;
3\. No injuries thus far and scrapping of the rotation system.

The look like they are not only playing well, but enjoying it and most importantly playing for each other. It looks like the dressing room has put all the BS aside and when they walk out onto the oval they are giving it their all for the team.

it makes me sick every time I see McDermott's face on the TV… All those people's money he lost?!

Watto

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[Cultured_Bogan]

Two things have changed that have attributed to Aussie success. Ponting is no longer in the team and Arthur is no longer coach. It makes a difference having a coach the players want to play for ….. I'm not sure our league team have that yet .... Time will tell I guess.

I'm with you F2B .... I don't like some of the crap they go on with either. Wonder if the day will come when someone retaliates in a way that's never been seen before. We saw Miandad threaten Lillee with a bat and blokes shaping up to each other. Wonder if the day will come when someone throws one !

I think there are three key factors:

1\. Lehmann;
2\. McDermott as bowling coach;
3\. No injuries thus far and scrapping of the rotation system.

The look like they are not only playing well, but enjoying it and most importantly playing for each other. It looks like the dressing room has put all the BS aside and when they walk out onto the oval they are giving it their all for the team.

it makes me sick every time I see McDermott's face on the TV… All those people's money he lost?!

Watto

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Not familiar with that Watto?

 

[tigertilidie]

went to adelaide on saturday morning just for the cricket and got back tonight. was the most amazing atmosphere there, especially when stokes had just got out and Broad came in. Its amazing on tv you cant here 1 word said from the crowd but i swear after every delivery there were about 20 people screaming out calling him a cheat and all that !!

 

[happy_tiger]

Two things have changed that have attributed to Aussie success. Ponting is no longer in the team and Arthur is no longer coach. It makes a difference having a coach the players want to play for ….. I'm not sure our league team have that yet .... Time will tell I guess.

I'm with you F2B .... I don't like some of the crap they go on with either. Wonder if the day will come when someone retaliates in a way that's never been seen before. We saw Miandad threaten Lillee with a bat and blokes shaping up to each other. Wonder if the day will come when someone throws one !

I think there are three key factors:

1\. Lehmann;
2\. McDermott as bowling coach;
3\. No injuries thus far and scrapping of the rotation system.

The look like they are not only playing well, but enjoying it and most importantly playing for each other. It looks like the dressing room has put all the BS aside and when they walk out onto the oval they are giving it their all for the team.

it makes me sick every time I see McDermott's face on the TV… All those people's money he lost?!

Watto

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Any chance to pick on an Ipswich boy Watto
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Had a 15 minute session facing McDermott back in 1984 at our local school (he had finished of course , some mix up if I recall they got the Ist 11's training day mixed up )

Never been as scared on a sporting field until after facing his 1st ball

Didn't see the first one and the ball hit the bat before had started back lift 😱pen_mouth:

After 15 minutes ( and being out 4-5 times might I say) it was getting sort of comfortable

Back then I reckon he was at about 135 -140 km , faced a bowling machine many years later turned up full bore = about the same

 

[stryker]

it makes me sick every time I see McDermott's face on the TV… All those people's money he lost?!

Watto

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Not familiar with that Watto?

He owned a property development company called Maxen which went bust owing unsecured investors around $40 mill. He is also being chased by the ATO and his ex wife

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Explains why a few people are upset at him.

 

[happy_tiger]

Explains why a few people are upset at him.

Yeah it wasn't pretty

 

[happy_tiger]

Ok explain why he is unlikeable to you.
…and he may not have bowled against guys from 30 years ago, but **he has bowled against a group of batsmen including Tendulka, Lara, Pieterson, Gale, Kallis etc.... who most judges would consider better.**

He may not be an all time great bowler, but he has fought his way back into this side after injury and poor form to be our spearhead. Under the mentorship of Lillee he seems to be learning to control his pace and is getting the ball in the right spots consistently. He is an x factor bowler who can very quickly take the game away from an opposition.

But dont let that sway you....you dont "like" him LOL....

Pieterson, Gayle and Kallis are considered better batsmen than Viv, Haynes, Grenidge? :laughing:
WOW would just about some that up. Honestly.

Probably the way Johnson carries on gets some people offside. The picture of him eyeballing Anderson doing the rounds in the papers today or yesterday explains it pretty well. A bit of humility goes a long way when it comes to peoples perceptions of others on the sporting field, but with you being a Queenslander that point is probably lost on you (ie : yippee yi yippee yi yippee and all that sorta crap that seems all the rage up there).

I'm sure NSW have a crappy winning team song as well FTB

Shame we never get to hear it though

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

:roll



 

[Fade_To_Black]

As for the "delicate nancies" on here, they aren't your friends, they aren't your family and you don't know them personally. Going by your logic who are you to judge them then?
Apologies that every body can't be as hard a man as you, forums are notorious breeding grounds for Walter Mitty-type lunchtime legends :wink:

**I didnt say on here.** I am talking about those that I have argued with in person who think the Aussies are being bullies even though they dont watch any cricket.

You should get yourself checked out…you seem to have a split personality. Your views on everything fluctuate with public opinion. Maybe you should try and have an original thought eh?

Who knows what you are referring to….you seem to say people shouldn't judge people they don't know personally yet you are calling people delicate nancies. Hypocrisy really is a bad trait. As for original thought, I don't aspire to be a sheep. Eh!
J**ust funny how the Aussie cricket team thrive on being the bullies in this series now that they have their nose in front and the wind up their arse. But where was this intimidation when they were getting bent over by the Poms last series.** They just rolled over. Nothing wrong with having a bit of mongrel on the field but don't just display it when you are winning, give as good as you get when you are getting beat as well.

Its called having your foot on the throat and keeping it there

It doesnt really work if your getting tonked to and over the boundary regulalrly…..thjats when you need to concentrate, focus and forget the sledge.....or as you put it ''roll over''
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Bullies

You should look up the word

Isn't a bully someone who likes to intimidate when they have the cards going their way etc, but when they are on the receiving end they turn into shrinking violets and surrender like a dog that has had a kick up the arse? That sums up the difference in attitude and body language of the Aussies from this series to the last one in the UK.
Pretty sure no-one has a real problem with the sledging and other kiddie BS that is going on out in the middle, if you are cut up by mere words you are kinda weak, let alone in Test cricket. The problem some people have is the way the Aussies are carrying on like world beaters now they have the edge. They certainly weren't looking so cocky before this series started.

They will deservedly easily win the Ashes this year over a dismal Pommy outfit. Before we piss too much in their pocket let's see how they handle the pressure of a better team overseas on their own dunghill. Everybody feels a bit more confident and has their chest puffed out in their own backyard. If they go to South Africa, India etc and dominate like they are doing in this Ashes then good luck to 'em but I doubt they will have it all their own way over in a hostile environment.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Who cares what happens on the field honestly as far as sledging is concerned

Wonder if the players who don't like sledging , aren't real good at sledging

As long as it isn't too personal and can be left on the field game on as far as I'm concerned

Absolutely :wink:

 

[Peaches]

There's talk Swann and Lyon could be dropped for 4 quick bowlers for each side for the WACA test match. From an Australian perspective, I'm hoping Lyon isn't dropped. A spinner is always required for variety in a bowling attack. With the wind, he should get some good drift and he'll be able to utilize the bounce out of the pitch. If the weather is going to be really hot too, we'll need a spinner to get through a couple of overs.

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[Cultured_Bogan]

We will get the job done with three quicks and a spinner. Leave Lyon there.

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[Glen_McWilliams]

The WACA is very good ground for bowling offspin. When you bowl from the Prindeville Stand (Northern) end you get the Fremantle Doctor assisting natural drift. The wicket doesn't turn a great deal but it does bounce as is well documented. Drift and bounce is far more dangerous for an off spinner than turning it square. England will make a massive blunder if they drop Swann. He can adjust and bowl with more over spin and be very dangerous. Lyon will do well there also. Has a high action and gets the ball to spit. That's if he gets a chance after Johnson and co have a crack with the new ball. Johnson has a strike rate of 33.6 over 5 tests at the ground.

 

[supercoach]

If the Poms play four quicks they will be lucky to bowl 10 overs per hour and the aussie's would not be much better. You always need a spinner to keep the game moving.

Although the Poms with Stokes could still play four quicks and a spinner .I get the feeling we are more likely to leave a spinner in the sheds and play the local boy as the fourth quick(the guy with the double barreled name)

 

[supercoach]

On the subject of Lyons, I really had high hopes for him this season, but once again he failed to deliver in the last innings of a match. I don't know what it is, but he is a better 1st innings bowler than second innings bowler, and most spinners are more effective in the back end of games. His line was all wrong bowling middle and leg most of the time rather than off and middle.He played a part in keeping it tight but never looked like causing them much grief.

I would love to see Smith really put some time into his leggies as I think their is real potential their

 

[balmain boy]

We will have the same squad as the last game. You don't change a winning team. Spinners have done well at the WACA and you need more variety than Smith lobbing a few full tosses and hoping for the best.

 

[happy_tiger]

There's talk Swann and Lyon could be dropped for 4 quick bowlers for each side for the WACA test match. From an Australian perspective, I'm hoping Lyon isn't dropped. A spinner is always required for variety in a bowling attack. With the wind, he should get some good drift and he'll be able to utilize the bounce out of the pitch. If the weather is going to be really hot too, we'll need a spinner to get through a couple of overs.

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I'd be tempted to drop Swann and keep Monty Panasaar if I was England and Bresnan will be playing at Perth as well

A few of the English batsmen looked like they had turned the corner in the second innings , so I expect a lot closer Test

Australia will go in unchanged unless we have an injury concern

 

[Peaches]

On the subject of Lyons, I really had high hopes for him this season, but once again he failed to deliver in the last innings of a match. I don't know what it is, but he is a better 1st innings bowler than second innings bowler, and most spinners are more effective in the back end of games. His line was all wrong bowling middle and leg most of the time rather than off and middle.He played a part in keeping it tight but never looked like causing them much grief.

I would love to see Smith really put some time into his leggies as I think their is real potential their

I think Lyon is progressing well. It's strange that he's a better 1st innings bowler rather then 2nd. He hasn't destroyed teams the way Warne used to in the 2nd innings but he is no Warne. He's still very much developing his game and for his age, I think he's a great spinner. Remember Swann didn't debut until he was 28\. Lyon from memory is 26 and is already one of Australia's more successful off-spinners. Our pace attack is our strength and Lyon compliments it very well.

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