Cricket Season Thread

[Cultured_Bogan]

Thank god Harbijan is now a spent force, he is in my top 10 all time most dislike sportsman of all time, and to make matters worse was very successful at times against us.
IN recent years however he has been rubbish, father time gets everyone eventually.
I thought they were grooming the other spinner, who is on tour, Udal or something similar, his name escapses me, they played 2 spinners in the Caribbean and Aswin has gone past him, IMO Ashwin looks only average.

GNR, Im not hugely sold on England being a great team, I think they are a good solid team with 11 good players, with most of them in good form. I they dont have the fire power of a great team there is no Gilchrists, Haydens, Warne or McGrath's or Richards, Haynes, Marshall, Garner, Ambrose in the english team,
The current England team will win more than they lose, however will not dominate like other sides. I expect the Saf's to give them a good run if not beat them.

On the Saf's how good is Jacques Kallis, where does he sit in the history of cricketers, 13000 runs at an average higher than Tendulkar to go with near enough to 300 wickets at about 30.

That is like Tendulkar and Brett Lee rolled into 1 player!. I think he must sit next to Sobars (if not above) as the greatest all rounder of all time, and possibly the second best cricketer ever beind Bradman.

Harbhajan wasn't nearly as bad as Ganguly. I wish Steve Waugh knocked that cocky beggar out when he had the chance. Ganguly was the ultimate douchebag of cricket.

Kallis is an absolute legend, and he's long passed Sobers. I'd have to say that he and Vettori are probably my favourite players outside of the Aussie team.

In other news, how was Haddin's form commenting on the fragility of India when his own game with the bat and gloves in particular are fairly ordinary themselves at the moment…

 

[Goose]

At the ground the other day, Swarmi army were pumping out a great chant "Haddin, it's your last test", and it wont be too far away the way he is going.

Kallis is great dont get me wrong, "but I think long past Sobar" is too far

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield_Sobers

Those figures stack up deluxe.

 

[underdog]

Thank god Harbijan is now a spent force, he is in my top 10 all time most dislike sportsman of all time, and to make matters worse was very successful at times against us.
IN recent years however he has been rubbish, father time gets everyone eventually.
I thought they were grooming the other spinner, who is on tour, Udal or something similar, his name escapses me, they played 2 spinners in the Caribbean and Aswin has gone past him, IMO Ashwin looks only average.

GNR, Im not hugely sold on England being a great team, I think they are a good solid team with 11 good players, with most of them in good form. I they dont have the fire power of a great team there is no Gilchrists, Haydens, Warne or McGrath's or Richards, Haynes, Marshall, Garner, Ambrose in the english team,
The current England team will win more than they lose, however will not dominate like other sides. I expect the Saf's to give them a good run if not beat them.

On the Saf's how good is Jacques Kallis, where does he sit in the history of cricketers, 13000 runs at an average higher than Tendulkar to go with near enough to 300 wickets at about 30.

That is like Tendulkar and Brett Lee rolled into 1 player!. I think he must sit next to Sobars (if not above) as the greatest all rounder of all time, and possibly the second best cricketer ever beind Bradman.

Harbhajan wasn't nearly as bad as Ganguly. I wish Steve Waugh knocked that cocky beggar out when he had the chance. Ganguly was the ultimate douchebag of cricket.

Kallis is an absolute legend, and he's long passed Sobers. I'd have to say that he and Vettori are probably my favourite players outside of the Aussie team.

**In other news, how was Haddin's form commenting on the fragility of India when his own game with the bat and gloves in particular are fairly ordinary themselves at the moment…**

I thought that as well. Admittedly stepping into Gilchrists shoes would be daunting, and we were spoiled with him in terms of his batting prowess (before him we had "Half a game Healy" who didn't bat much better than the rest of the tail) but I haven't seen an Aussie wicketkeeper drop so many since… well.... ever.

Isn't Tim Payne a decent batsmen as well as a brilliant glovesmen?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Thank god Harbijan is now a spent force, he is in my top 10 all time most dislike sportsman of all time, and to make matters worse was very successful at times against us.
IN recent years however he has been rubbish, father time gets everyone eventually.
I thought they were grooming the other spinner, who is on tour, Udal or something similar, his name escapses me, they played 2 spinners in the Caribbean and Aswin has gone past him, IMO Ashwin looks only average.

GNR, Im not hugely sold on England being a great team, I think they are a good solid team with 11 good players, with most of them in good form. I they dont have the fire power of a great team there is no Gilchrists, Haydens, Warne or McGrath's or Richards, Haynes, Marshall, Garner, Ambrose in the english team,
The current England team will win more than they lose, however will not dominate like other sides. I expect the Saf's to give them a good run if not beat them.

On the Saf's how good is Jacques Kallis, where does he sit in the history of cricketers, 13000 runs at an average higher than Tendulkar to go with near enough to 300 wickets at about 30.

That is like Tendulkar and Brett Lee rolled into 1 player!. I think he must sit next to Sobars (if not above) as the greatest all rounder of all time, and possibly the second best cricketer ever beind Bradman.

Harbhajan wasn't nearly as bad as Ganguly. I wish Steve Waugh knocked that cocky beggar out when he had the chance. Ganguly was the ultimate douchebag of cricket.

Kallis is an absolute legend, and he's long passed Sobers. I'd have to say that he and Vettori are probably my favourite players outside of the Aussie team.

**In other news, how was Haddin's form commenting on the fragility of India when his own game with the bat and gloves in particular are fairly ordinary themselves at the moment…**

I thought that as well. Admittedly stepping into Gilchrists shoes would be daunting, and we were spoiled with him in terms of his batting prowess (before him we had "Half a game Healy" who didn't bat much better than the rest of the tail) but I haven't seen an Aussie wicketkeeper drop so many since… well.... ever.

Isn't Tim Payne a decent batsmen as well as a brilliant glovesmen?

Yeah he is, although I personally think Matt Wade should get the gloves next. Still great with the gloves and has an FC average of 40.2 compared to Paine's 31.6, boasts a SR of 59 compared to Paine's 44 and he's only 24 whereas Paine is 27\. He's also taken 55 more catches in only 4 more first class matches. Bringing in Paine is lunacy when Wade is already just as good and will be around for ten or so years.

 

[Yossarian]

Kallis is great dont get me wrong, "but I think long past Sobar" is too far

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield_Sobers

Those figures stack up deluxe.

Don't know about Sobers but Kallis has a marginally better record than Tendulkar in batting stats and is clearly a better bowler and yet getsabout 1% of the praise Tendulkar does. If Kallis played for India he'd be being talked about as one of the best cricketers to have ever played.

 

[Goose]

and Paine is injured to the extent he may never play again.

Matt Wade looks first rate with the gloves and bats very well, Haddin is starting to age, and it takes its toll on keepers, I think Haddin is almost finished, hope they let him go out on his own terms

 

[Yossarian]

Speaking of Haddin, what was with that weird celebration he was doing after every catch in Sydney? Every time he caught one he'd charge off towards gulley with his hands stretched out. Was this some message?

 

[Centaur]

Speaking of Haddin, what was with that weird celebration he was doing after every catch in Sydney? Every time he caught one he'd charge off towards gulley with his hands stretched out. Was this some message?

Hasn't had much to celebrate in recent times - he is merely enjoying his rare moments.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Scorchers are looking good as late favourites for the Big Bash. Easily accounted for an injury & Test duty hit Thunder side.

On a lesser note, I had the dubious honour earlier tonight of being stumped chasing a loose delivery outside off stump bowled by none other than one time rockstar and NSW Blue Richard Chee-Quee. He was dropped twice on my bowling as well… Cannot handle the short delivery!

 

[Marshall_magic]

The Thunder are paying the price for spending big on a few players and having too many hacks. With the departure of Edwards and Warner's test call up, they're in big trouble. If Gayle fails they have no plan B. The Big Bash will be won by the Scorchers or the Sixers. The Sixers have a weak batting line up, but a strong bowling attack, the Scorchers have a very strong XI all round.

 

[happy_tiger]

Speaking of Haddin, what was with that weird celebration he was doing after every catch in Sydney? Every time he caught one he'd charge off towards gulley with his hands stretched out. Was this some message?

Hasn't had much to celebrate in recent times - he is merely enjoying his rare moments.

Yep and rare moments that probably won't be around for much longer either Centaur

 

[happy_tiger]

Thank god Harbijan is now a spent force, he is in my top 10 all time most dislike sportsman of all time, and to make matters worse was very successful at times against us.
IN recent years however he has been rubbish, father time gets everyone eventually.
I thought they were grooming the other spinner, who is on tour, Udal or something similar, his name escapses me, they played 2 spinners in the Caribbean and Aswin has gone past him, IMO Ashwin looks only average.

GNR, Im not hugely sold on England being a great team, I think they are a good solid team with 11 good players, with most of them in good form. I they dont have the fire power of a great team there is no Gilchrists, Haydens, Warne or McGrath's or Richards, Haynes, Marshall, Garner, Ambrose in the english team,
The current England team will win more than they lose, however will not dominate like other sides. I expect the Saf's to give them a good run if not beat them.

On the Saf's how good is Jacques Kallis, where does he sit in the history of cricketers, 13000 runs at an average higher than Tendulkar to go with near enough to 300 wickets at about 30.

That is like Tendulkar and Brett Lee rolled into 1 player!. I think he must sit next to Sobars (if not above) as the greatest all rounder of all time, and possibly the second best cricketer ever beind Bradman.

Comparing Sobers to Kallis probably isn't being realistic Sobers could bowl quick and then switch to spin and even bowl wristies and leggies Fantastic fieldsman and before Tendulkar came along was regarded by Bradman as his No 2 I don't think Kallis is in the category sorry Goose

 

[underdog]

in 25 years we'll look back and realise Kallis was one of the best all around cricketers ever.

 

[happy_tiger]

in 25 years we'll look back and realise Kallis was one of the best all around cricketers ever.

You are right Underdog He will be one of the best all round players ever but I still put him below Sobers

You have to remember that the West Indies when he first debuted for them while they had some fine players that they were arguably the weakest team in world cricket

He was involved in a side that played a Test Series (in which he was a star ) that literally turned aroung the fortunes of Test cricket (60-61 series v Australia) which is stated by many saved Test Cricket

And was rated as the No 2 player ever in Wisden's 100 greatest ever Test ceicketers behind Bradman

Almost forgot ,the only batsman to hit 6 sixes in an over

 

[Yossarian]

in 25 years we'll look back and realise Kallis was one of the best all around cricketers ever.

Almost forgot ,the only batsman to hit 6 sixes in an over

Well that's not true. Some Indian batsman did in the 1980s. I want to say Ravi Shastri but I'd need to check that…

 

[underdog]

Garfield Sobers did it before it was cool to hit sixes though…. :mrgreen: during the "Bill Lawry" era of batsmen

- And Yoss - bang on about Ravi Shastri doing it.

Both were in first class games - and they aren't the only ones -

_"Scoring 6 consecutive sixes is an impressive and rare achievement in any form of cricket. When Yuvraj Singh smashedStuart Broad to all corners of the park and beyond in Kingsmead in the Super Eights of the Twenty20 World Cup, he became only the fourth batsman in the history of the game to register 36 runs in an over, following in the footsteps of Gary Sobers, Ravi Shastri and Herschelle Gibbs. Sobers and Shastri did it in first class cricket, whilst Gibbs and Yuvraj achieved it in ODIs and Twenty20s respectively."_

http://worldcricketwatch.com/stories/feature/6-sixes-in-an-over-a-rare-sensational-feat-in-the-history-of-cricket/

 

[happy_tiger]

Garfield Sobers did it before it was cool to hit sixes though…. :mrgreen: during the "Bill Lawry" era of batsmen

- And Yoss - bang on about Ravi Shastri doing it.

Both were in first class games - and they aren't the only ones -

_"Scoring 6 consecutive sixes is an impressive and rare achievement in any form of cricket. When Yuvraj Singh smashedStuart Broad to all corners of the park and beyond in Kingsmead in the Super Eights of the Twenty20 World Cup, he became only the fourth batsman in the history of the game to register 36 runs in an over, following in the footsteps of Gary Sobers, Ravi Shastri and Herschelle Gibbs. Sobers and Shastri did it in first class cricket, whilst Gibbs and Yuvraj achieved it in ODIs and Twenty20s respectively."_

http://worldcricketwatch.com/stories/feature/6-sixes-in-an-over-a-rare-sensational-feat-in-the-history-of-cricket/

Seeing a can't get the footage to work were the sixes REAL sixes

As in they were out of the playing arena ,not just over a rope that was brought in 20 or so metres

Sobers sixes were all off the playing field itself and couple ( if i remember correctly) were out of the stadium

 

[Yossarian]

Garfield Sobers did it before it was cool to hit sixes though…. :mrgreen: during the "Bill Lawry" era of batsmen

- And Yoss - bang on about Ravi Shastri doing it.

Both were in first class games - and they aren't the only ones -

_"Scoring 6 consecutive sixes is an impressive and rare achievement in any form of cricket. When Yuvraj Singh smashedStuart Broad to all corners of the park and beyond in Kingsmead in the Super Eights of the Twenty20 World Cup, he became only the fourth batsman in the history of the game to register 36 runs in an over, following in the footsteps of Gary Sobers, Ravi Shastri and Herschelle Gibbs. Sobers and Shastri did it in first class cricket, whilst Gibbs and Yuvraj achieved it in ODIs and Twenty20s respectively."_

http://worldcricketwatch.com/stories/feature/6-sixes-in-an-over-a-rare-sensational-feat-in-the-history-of-cricket/

Seeing a can't get the footage to work were the sixes REAL sixes

As in they were out of the playing arena ,not just over a rope that was brought in 20 or so metres

Sobers sixes were all off the playing field itself and couple ( if i remember correctly) were out of the stadium

There is footage out there of Sobers' over. One of them (the 2nd maybe) was dropped over the fence. It was a small ground and a few of them did disappear some way out of the ground. Oddly enough Nash was a pace bowler trying out some spin…Didn't really work out as he planned!

 

[happy_tiger]

Yeah have seen Sobers smashing Nash all over the place at Swansea in 68 a couple of times ,but have never seen footage of the other 3 occasions it had happened Yoss

Anyway in my eyes Sobers is still the No 2 player ever to play the game and the greatest all rounder ever

Of all the all rounders that have played the game would of loved to have seen Keith Miller live

My grandfather (an Englishman ) swore that apart from Bradman he was the next best player ever to play

Maybe I should ask Cunno or Flippedy ,they would of seen him live :wink:

 

[Marshall_magic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwqBoVhOwas
Gibbs smashing 36 off an over against Holland in the 2007 world cup. Bowling is garbage, I lost the ball on the second one, but the other 5 all cleared the fence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xNCAxWzu8k
Yuvraj doing it against England (Stuart Broad) in the 2008 T20 world cup. Again, ordinary bowling, but there's some huge shots in there (a couple almost went into orbit I think). Number 4 landed a foot short of the fence.