Cricket Season Thread

If Paine were fit, I think Haddin would've already been axed. As we've heard, he's the one they want to take over the captaincy after Clarke goes. To me it's silly to peg a guy as a future captain when he isn't even a regular. At least when Clarke was put in that position he was pretty well cemented in the side.
 
@Marshall_magic said:
If Paine were fit, I think Haddin would've already been axed. As we've heard, he's the one they want to take over the captaincy after Clarke goes. To me it's silly to peg a guy as a future captain when he isn't even a regular. At least when Clarke was put in that position he was pretty well cemented in the side.

Agree, I mean there's even doubt as to whether Paine is the best keeper-batsman in the country. To me Wade is a much better all round player. His keeping is at least equal to Paine's and to me his batting is a lot better. Wade looks like a batsman, to me Paine still looks like a keeper who can bat a bit.
The problem with grooming Paine as the next captain is what if someone a lot better then Paine comes along in the next year or two? Suddenly time invested into Paine becomes wasted. We may even be seeing that right now with the form Wade has been in.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
What about Chris Hartley… They need more Queenslanders!!!

Keen to see Alister McDermott in the Shield after his brilliant form in the BBL. Only has 12 wickets @ 33 at the moment, but has only played four matches.
 
@Yossarian said:
@Tiger Watto said:
What about Chris Hartley… They need more Queenslanders!!!

I don't know… things have picked up since they ditched the Queenslanders!

Don't worry Watto

If Qlders dominated every sports team in Australia NSW would create some conspiracy theory :crazy

We know we are the greatest cricket state and who is on top of the Sheffield Shield table :sunglasses:
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Tiger Watto said:
Who's Wade?

Matt Wade, current Victorian Bushrangers and Melbourne Stars keeper/batsman.

Just about to turn 24, great glove work and averages 40 with the bat in Shield.

I have searched this guy, seems pretty average with the gloves. Needs quite a few years IMO.

Cant believe no ones mentioned it yet but congrats to Punter and Pup on magnificent double tonnes

Still laughing my backside off at the experts who wanted Ponting gone before the series even started…must be very embarrasing to have no idea.

1st test = twin 60's,
2nd tet = 140 odd, DNB
3rd test = missed out, DNB
4th test = 200 odd.

As for Clarkey.....what an amazing series he has had. Again put the boofheads in their place.
 
@stryker said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Tiger Watto said:
Who's Wade?

Matt Wade, current Victorian Bushrangers and Melbourne Stars keeper/batsman.

Just about to turn 24, great glove work and averages 40 with the bat in Shield.

I have searched this guy, seems pretty average with the gloves. Needs quite a few years IMO.

Cant believe no ones mentioned it yet but congrats to Punter and Pup on magnificent double tonnes

Still laughing my backside off at the experts who wanted Ponting gone before the series even started…must be very embarrasing to have no idea.

1st test = twin 60's,
2nd tet = 140 odd, DNB
3rd test = missed out, DNB
4th test = 200 odd.

As for Clarkey.....what an amazing series he has had. Again put the boofheads in their place.

Credit where credit is due to Ponting, but lets be realistic, the man is 38 years old and doesn't have a lot of time left. I would say all the last 2 games has done is prevent him from being pushed any time soon. Those 'experts' will be back don't you worry. You seemed to get upset earlier when i suggested that the Aussies woudn't win the Ashes with Ponting, Haddin and Hussey. Well I stand by that. England's attack make India's look like a pub team. and last time Ponting faced them, he didn't look good at all, and next time he'll be 40\. Like i said Credit to him for the last couple of knocks, but that doesn't change my opinion of his career at all to see him bash a second rate, broken, pop gun attack around like India's
 
@happy tiger said:
@Yossarian said:
@Tiger Watto said:
What about Chris Hartley… They need more Queenslanders!!!

I don't know… things have picked up since they ditched the Queenslanders!

Don't worry Watto

If Qlders dominated every sports team in Australia NSW would create some conspiracy theory :crazy

We know we are the greatest cricket state and who is on top of the Sheffield Shield table :sunglasses:

Come on Happy - Queensland is home of the conspiracy theory!

And Marsh out for a duck. He looked in all sorts of trouble out there. Looked a chance to get out every ball.
 
I have been a reasonable observer of international cricket for 20 odd years now…I havent seen a bloke elavated for no good reason and perform as poorly as Marsh.

I thought Hughes and Kahwaja were bloody useless...this bloke sets a new bar in average.
 
@stryker said:
I have been a reasonable observer of international cricket for 20 odd years now…I havent seen a bloke elavated for no good reason and perform as poorly as Marsh.

I thought Hughes and Kahwaja were bloody useless...this bloke sets a new bar in average.

Before this series it amazed me why Marsh only averaged about 38 at first class level. But after seeing how his test career has gone so far, I can see why his record is how it is, he will hit a couple of good scores like he did in Sri Lanka but then he will go through these massive lows. He seems to be a confidence player who can lose total confidence after one failure.

Yet despite this, to me it feels like Khawaja copped more scrutiny about his place in the side then what Marsh has received despite Khawaja making starts, being less experienced and having an superior Shield record.

Looks like Watson will take Marsh's place in the Windies unless they opt for Watson to replace Cowan and Khawaja to come in for Marsh.
 
@Marshall_magic said:
If Paine were fit, I think Haddin would've already been axed. As we've heard, he's the one they want to take over the captaincy after Clarke goes. To me it's silly to peg a guy as a future captain when he isn't even a regular. At least when Clarke was put in that position he was pretty well cemented in the side.

You'd have to think though guys if Watson can get over his injuries that he would be the next captain in waiting

My only concern is would the pressure of captaincy and being an all rounder be too great and affect his cricket in a negative way
 
@Jazza said:
@stryker said:
I have been a reasonable observer of international cricket for 20 odd years now…I havent seen a bloke elavated for no good reason and perform as poorly as Marsh.

I thought Hughes and Kahwaja were bloody useless...this bloke sets a new bar in average.

Before this series it amazed me why Marsh only averaged about 38 at first class level. But after seeing how his test career has gone so far, I can see why his record is how it is, he will hit a couple of good scores like he did in Sri Lanka but then he will go through these massive lows. He seems to be a confidence player who can lose total confidence after one failure.

Yet despite this, to me it feels like Khawaja copped more scrutiny about his place in the side then what Marsh has received despite Khawaja making starts, being less experienced and having an superior Shield record.

Looks like Watson will take Marsh's place in the Windies unless they opt for Watson to replace Cowan and Khawaja to come in for Marsh.

His average is an indication of the type of player he is - capable of making centuries and looking great when in form but mixed in with a lot of failures. You don't average below 40 for so long unless you have some problems with your technique. He could easily make 100 in his next innings and look a million dollars but his stats would suggest over time he will fail more often than he succeeds.
 
@Yossarian said:
@Jazza said:
@stryker said:
I have been a reasonable observer of international cricket for 20 odd years now…I havent seen a bloke elavated for no good reason and perform as poorly as Marsh.

I thought Hughes and Kahwaja were bloody useless...this bloke sets a new bar in average.

Before this series it amazed me why Marsh only averaged about 38 at first class level. But after seeing how his test career has gone so far, I can see why his record is how it is, he will hit a couple of good scores like he did in Sri Lanka but then he will go through these massive lows. He seems to be a confidence player who can lose total confidence after one failure.

Yet despite this, to me it feels like Khawaja copped more scrutiny about his place in the side then what Marsh has received despite Khawaja making starts, being less experienced and having an superior Shield record.

Looks like Watson will take Marsh's place in the Windies unless they opt for Watson to replace Cowan and Khawaja to come in for Marsh.

His average is an indication of the type of player he is - capable of making centuries and looking great when in form but mixed in with a lot of failures. You don't average below 40 for so long unless you have some problems with your technique. He could easily make 100 in his next innings and look a million dollars but his stats would suggest over time he will fail more often than he succeeds.

Exactly right Yoss. Steve Waugh said after Marsh made his first Shield 100 against the Blues 10 years ago that Marsh will play for Australia. But today the commentators pointed out that before he made that 100, he went I think they said 8 or 9 innings where he didnt pass 49\. So he is still having the same problem that he had 10 years ago.

They say he is one of the best in the country technically. But to me if that is really the case, then he should find it easier then most getting through the first 20 minutes of his innings.

If only he had the graft and grind of his father to go with his natural strokeplay.
 
@Yossarian said:
@Jazza said:
@stryker said:
I have been a reasonable observer of international cricket for 20 odd years now…I havent seen a bloke elavated for no good reason and perform as poorly as Marsh.

I thought Hughes and Kahwaja were bloody useless...this bloke sets a new bar in average.

Before this series it amazed me why Marsh only averaged about 38 at first class level. But after seeing how his test career has gone so far, I can see why his record is how it is, he will hit a couple of good scores like he did in Sri Lanka but then he will go through these massive lows. He seems to be a confidence player who can lose total confidence after one failure.

Yet despite this, to me it feels like Khawaja copped more scrutiny about his place in the side then what Marsh has received despite Khawaja making starts, being less experienced and having an superior Shield record.

Looks like Watson will take Marsh's place in the Windies unless they opt for Watson to replace Cowan and Khawaja to come in for Marsh.

His average is an indication of the type of player he is - capable of making centuries and looking great when in form but mixed in with a lot of failures. You don't average below 40 for so long unless you have some problems with your technique. He could easily make 100 in his next innings and look a million dollars but his stats would suggest over time he will fail more often than he succeeds.

Yeah Marsh has struggled. Khawaja should definitely get a look-in if Watto is still hurting though. Khawaja would average in the 20's or 30's, Marsh struggled to crack double figures for this series…
 
Watson is the same age as Clarke though, it would've been like saying when Ponting goes Hussey becomes captain. Clarke will be around another 5-6 years (he's 30 now), then he'll go, so you're looking at 2017-18 for when the next captain will be taking over I think. If something happens and Clarke surrenders the captaincy, maybe appoint Watto, but if Clarke stays captain until he retires, someone like Warner is a better bet.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Yossarian said:
@Jazza said:
@stryker said:
I have been a reasonable observer of international cricket for 20 odd years now…I havent seen a bloke elavated for no good reason and perform as poorly as Marsh.

I thought Hughes and Kahwaja were bloody useless...this bloke sets a new bar in average.

Before this series it amazed me why Marsh only averaged about 38 at first class level. But after seeing how his test career has gone so far, I can see why his record is how it is, he will hit a couple of good scores like he did in Sri Lanka but then he will go through these massive lows. He seems to be a confidence player who can lose total confidence after one failure.

Yet despite this, to me it feels like Khawaja copped more scrutiny about his place in the side then what Marsh has received despite Khawaja making starts, being less experienced and having an superior Shield record.

Looks like Watson will take Marsh's place in the Windies unless they opt for Watson to replace Cowan and Khawaja to come in for Marsh.

His average is an indication of the type of player he is - capable of making centuries and looking great when in form but mixed in with a lot of failures. You don't average below 40 for so long unless you have some problems with your technique. He could easily make 100 in his next innings and look a million dollars but his stats would suggest over time he will fail more often than he succeeds.

Yeah Marsh has struggled. Khawaja should definitely get a look-in if Watto is still hurting though. Khawaja would average in the 20's or 30's, Marsh struggled to crack double figures for this series…

I guess it depends on what the selectors think is better: someone who makes big scores amongst a lot of failures or someone who regluarly gets to 30-odd and doesn't go on with it. Personally I think Khawaja is a better option long-term and if he got that one big score he could really go on with it. Short term it looks a straight swap between Marsh and Watson with Cowan staying and the only question being who bats where.
 
I think long term maybe Clarke may seriously have to step up to 3 and Watson at 5

Unfortunately unless some talent steps up in the next 2 years we won't have a choice

That is until some talent steps up and Clarke can then bat at 4
 
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