@Marshall_magic said:
That's a cracker. They missed Geraint Jones (he was Aussie born!)
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That's a cracker. They missed Geraint Jones (he was Aussie born!)
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tig_prmz
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@stryker said:
lol u find that acceptable when you said this in another thread
@stryker said:
double standards?
happy_tiger
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And as usual the PC board take over
Great victory by the Australians , great start to the series
The next step for our side is to be consistent , follow up the next Test with another quality performance
I understand we will still lack consistency due to the lack of experience , but lets hope we don't lose any sessions like we did in the last series
Happy to still be removing all the egg of my face LOL
Great victory by the Australians , great start to the series
The next step for our side is to be consistent , follow up the next Test with another quality performance
I understand we will still lack consistency due to the lack of experience , but lets hope we don't lose any sessions like we did in the last series
Happy to still be removing all the egg of my face LOL
No its not the same thing tig_prmz…..you guys were gloating about Slater getting injured and saying he deserved it. For it to be the same thing, Johnson would have had to of broken Anderson's jaw with a bouncer and then have me come on here laughing about it saying he deserved it because he should have moved his head out of the road. See the difference?
What I am applauding is the Aussie's approach to the series which in a lot of ways has taken leaf's out of the English playbook. I'll never forget the series in 05 when we sent a supremely confident side to England that was easily the best on the planet, brimming with legends and making cocky predictions of a 5-0 whitewash on English soil as they hadnt lost a series in 17 or so years. The English decided that they had had enough and manned up. They didnt take crap of us, in fact they gave better than they got, won the mind games, won the battles and the war. They won the urn back in emphatic fashion....and rubbed it in for weeks afterwards.
Inevitably they awoke the demon in the Aussies which resulted in the most demoralising series defeat in memory on the return trip to our shores. That 5-0 whitewash in 07 was brutal. We smashed them with the bat, scared them with the ball, crucified them with mindgames and just crushed their spirits.
It was now their turn to re-evaluate their apporach and they did so and have now won three series on the trot. This is test cricket. It is not the bubble gum, family friendly, pg friendly version of the game where everyone is friends that you seem so fond of. Test cricket is the hardest form of the game as it not only requires a great skill set, but is also a test of endurance and mental toughness. You are not just playing the 11 blokes facing you, but also the weather, time, strategies and most importantly yourself.
This Australian side is not overly talented and they are not overly experienced. They had to change their mindset and that appears to have happened. It is now them who are not taking crap off the superior side. It is now them who are the underdogs with their backs to the wall. Anderson, Broad, Peiterson, Swan et al. have become master sledgers and give it to our blokes in spades. They win the mind games as well as the cricket. What I saw in this test was a group of blokes who said if we go down we'll do it swinging and this approach seems to have rattled the poms. We saw Johnno bowl a ferocious spell on day 2 that struck fear into the English, we saw Warner and Clarke get in behind short pitched bowling and flog it to the boundary and most importantly, we saw our team give the poms a taste of their own medicine in the mind games department.
Anderson whinged to the umps about the Aussie's talk and considering he is a world class stirrer in his own right had a hide to do so. Clarke has basically said to him "if thats how you want it, I have a bloke at the other end, bowling 150k/hr who wants to tear your head off ....and I am green lighting him". It was awesome stuff...and it worked. This series is far from over, the poms are a great team. However we have struck the first blow and with the whole country behind them, this team will not take a backward step this series. I didnt think this would be the case and is the reason I am so pleasantly surprised.
Its game on and will be a terrifically absorbing contest. If the English retain the ashes, they will know they have been in a war to do so and thats all that we ask of our national side. Likewise, if we win, it will be a victory akin to their heroics of 05.
Bit long winded for sure, but to answer your question, no there is no double standards in my post :smiley:
What I am applauding is the Aussie's approach to the series which in a lot of ways has taken leaf's out of the English playbook. I'll never forget the series in 05 when we sent a supremely confident side to England that was easily the best on the planet, brimming with legends and making cocky predictions of a 5-0 whitewash on English soil as they hadnt lost a series in 17 or so years. The English decided that they had had enough and manned up. They didnt take crap of us, in fact they gave better than they got, won the mind games, won the battles and the war. They won the urn back in emphatic fashion....and rubbed it in for weeks afterwards.
Inevitably they awoke the demon in the Aussies which resulted in the most demoralising series defeat in memory on the return trip to our shores. That 5-0 whitewash in 07 was brutal. We smashed them with the bat, scared them with the ball, crucified them with mindgames and just crushed their spirits.
It was now their turn to re-evaluate their apporach and they did so and have now won three series on the trot. This is test cricket. It is not the bubble gum, family friendly, pg friendly version of the game where everyone is friends that you seem so fond of. Test cricket is the hardest form of the game as it not only requires a great skill set, but is also a test of endurance and mental toughness. You are not just playing the 11 blokes facing you, but also the weather, time, strategies and most importantly yourself.
This Australian side is not overly talented and they are not overly experienced. They had to change their mindset and that appears to have happened. It is now them who are not taking crap off the superior side. It is now them who are the underdogs with their backs to the wall. Anderson, Broad, Peiterson, Swan et al. have become master sledgers and give it to our blokes in spades. They win the mind games as well as the cricket. What I saw in this test was a group of blokes who said if we go down we'll do it swinging and this approach seems to have rattled the poms. We saw Johnno bowl a ferocious spell on day 2 that struck fear into the English, we saw Warner and Clarke get in behind short pitched bowling and flog it to the boundary and most importantly, we saw our team give the poms a taste of their own medicine in the mind games department.
Anderson whinged to the umps about the Aussie's talk and considering he is a world class stirrer in his own right had a hide to do so. Clarke has basically said to him "if thats how you want it, I have a bloke at the other end, bowling 150k/hr who wants to tear your head off ....and I am green lighting him". It was awesome stuff...and it worked. This series is far from over, the poms are a great team. However we have struck the first blow and with the whole country behind them, this team will not take a backward step this series. I didnt think this would be the case and is the reason I am so pleasantly surprised.
Its game on and will be a terrifically absorbing contest. If the English retain the ashes, they will know they have been in a war to do so and thats all that we ask of our national side. Likewise, if we win, it will be a victory akin to their heroics of 05.
Bit long winded for sure, but to answer your question, no there is no double standards in my post :smiley:
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Slater purposely uses this technique to hurt the opposition and at this time he got hurt himself. Serves him right .
Clarke saying get ready for a broken arm was in response to all the arrogance and foolishness of the England players. Both are fair games IMO.
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Clarke saying get ready for a broken arm was in response to all the arrogance and foolishness of the England players. Both are fair games IMO.
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How do you know that? Did he tell you that was his strategy? It could just as easily, be argued (more accurately IMO), that he does it to protect himself. If you noticed, he didnt throw his leg out as much as normal and the result was that he got smashed and did his knee. I am sure in his mind this action is even more validated now than before. I agree it doesnt look pretty when he does it but it is effective and gives him piece of mind that he wont get taken out in the air. The last person who was going to hammer him in this way copped a boot in the head.
tig_prmz
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Lol do you want me to run with my elbow on someone's face so that I don't get smashed in the tackle?
And kleimmer wasn't gonna smash billy while in the air. He was almost at 0 speed when Billy's foot connected him.
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And kleimmer wasn't gonna smash billy while in the air. He was almost at 0 speed when Billy's foot connected him.
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@tig_prmz said:
No, that is aganst the rules, protecting yourself whilst in the air is not. To my knowledge Slater has not been reprimanded for these actions and I have noticed other fullbacks starting to copy him. You can not say that Kleimmer had no intention to smash Billy either. To say he was at zero speed is patently untrue…in fact it is a lie. The original penalty was actually to the Storm for a mid air tackle. Old mate wasnt going for the ball, he was flying at the man. In this instance, the kick in the head was the bulldog players fault.
Juro
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@Cultured Bogan said:
Geraint Jones was actually born in PNG. He is currently playing for them in the World T20 qualifiers.
innsaneink
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Heard some fool on radio this morning , who clearly hadnt seen the incident nor has an idea whatsoever about cricket, talking about Clarke and what was said as if clarke had intended to break the poms arm himself,…of course this fools being listened to by 10000s
Turned it from a sledge to a personal threat of physical violence
Some of the hand wringers here seem to have that same problem of comprehending just what in fact has occured - turning this into something its not
Turned it from a sledge to a personal threat of physical violence
Some of the hand wringers here seem to have that same problem of comprehending just what in fact has occured - turning this into something its not
@innsaneink said:
That's what happens when Joe Public hears something and puts his two cents in not knowing the situation at all.
Clarke's sledge was no different to anything side that goes on a test field; it was just broadcasted live on tv. The irony that Anderson was on the receiving end is quite funny as he is one of the games top sledgers.
And it's good to see the Aussie bowling attacking the tail. The English tail performed well in England. Attacking them with short balls unsettles them and makes their wicket easier to get.
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@Juro said:
So he was, I knew he grew up in Australia, I figured he was born here. Assumptions are a killer… :blush:
Fade_To_Black
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@stryker said:
:roll Sure it was. Just like back in the day when Daryl Brohman tried to eat Les Boyd's elbow :unamused:
As far as the cricket goes, it was interesting to see the Aussies finally grow a pair of nuts and sprout the bravado when they had a team thoroughly beaten. Shame they don't show the same amount of gumption when they are on the receiving end of a hiding.
Clarke looked and sounded like he was lost for answers in the press conference before the First Test but by the end of it he was all chest-puffed-out and talkin smack like Choc Mundine in his prime. Will be very interesting to see how the Aussies carry themselves when and if the tide turns the Pom's way. Warner and Johnson are the kings of "confidence players", it could turn sour for them just as quick as it has worked in their favour. That will be the true test of their mettle, not when you are giving a team a flogging.
GNR4LIFE
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If the Aussies want to take an aggressive stance thats their prerogative, but why do they only ever show it when they are on top? They've always been like it ever since the Waugh era, never a cockier team has the world ever seen when they are on top. People give it to India when all India were doing was finally giving the arrogant pricks a little of their own medicine back.
And btw that Courier mail campaign was nothing short of pathetic. They're lucky they haven't been slapped with a lawsuit
And btw that Courier mail campaign was nothing short of pathetic. They're lucky they haven't been slapped with a lawsuit
Fade_To_Black
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@GNR4LIFE said:
For refusing to use a blokes name?? Their stance was childish in the extreme and bloody embarrassing for our country but wasn't worthy of a lawsuit.
innsaneink
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It happens all the time….from all teams
GNR4LIFE
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@Fade To Black said:
I'm pretty sure calling him a cheat would be grounds for slander
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