Curtis Sironen released [Official p.40]

[stevetiger]

as for his game plans he employs, they lack any creativity and are so 1 dimensional that teams have already worked us out

This is the problem. JT's structures just appear to be dud game plans.

 

[supercoach]

The problems is a whole host of things. Yes the coach bewilders me most of the time, but the decision to build a club around two kids who were only just out of Toyota cup was madness. They were fast tracked on hype generated by the media and we fell for it hook line and sinker. I have no doubt they will both make the grade, but they were rushed because we were paying them marque money and by doing this we have probably set them back at least a year two in their development. Also the problem is there is a real chance once they get somewhere near their potential they are going to up and leave to a stronger club.

I do not know what is the answer, but if they want a quick fix than they have to attract a top line coach that has the ability to lure quality players to the club, because marque players are not going to come to tiger town for money alone.

Anyway back to the subject, if Siro wants to head elsewhere that is fine because he like the two wonder kids still has a long way to go before he actually at a standard that matches his pay packet

 

[happy_tiger]

Yes its all the players fault jt cant coach to save his life.I hope a few rockets where fired his way but somehow i doubt it.

Dont worry, JT knows exactly whats expected of him and the consequences of not delivering….

Sounds great. Let's see how it plays out then. We came last last year. We are 3rd last this year. We look poorly coached. We had a debacle of an off season.

The way I see it we have to improve significantly or Taylor has to lose his job prior to next season.

Steve

Have you compared our best 17 against the other 15 sides best 17 yet ??

We are a bottom 4 side , you need to accept that

I saw Trent Robinson last night on Sterlo and really liked what I saw , but as he even has shown if you don't have the cattle you don't win footy games

It's that simple

 

[yeti]

I agree with the general sentiment expressed here. If Sirro and Cherrington wish to leave mid season then that sits alright with me. They don't appear to be part of the answer to our problems and the cash they free up may be put to better use. (We all know what we need - 2 hard nosed forwards, at least a couple of first grade standard backs and coaches who can coach)! If Sue wishes to leave, then O.K. - at seasons end.
So for me I'd like to see new coaches at the end of the season and a fair dinkum clean out of playing 'talent' (and I use that word loosely)! I

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Why are we letting Sue go?

Players are letting us go. Would u destroy your career with Taylor.

Wouldn't have anything to do with not getting their way would it? They got their way with Potter, and now all of a sudden Pascoe comes out after the Raiders game and pretty much tells them to suck it up, and all of a sudden they want out huh?

What, they're not happy with JT? Some would call that Karma for the way they dogged it under Potter. Better the devil you know they say.

GNR you really are president, secretary and part of the dwindling membership of the JT Fan Boy club. Do you think departures are organised overnight by clubs and player managers?

Haha mate you can get rid of Taylor if you like, I won't lose any sleep. But I find it hilarious that the president of the "I hate JT club" (you) will jump on anyone who doesn't lay 100% of the blame on JT and label them as an apologist.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Players are letting us go. Would u destroy your career with Taylor.

Wouldn't have anything to do with not getting their way would it? They got their way with Potter, and now all of a sudden Pascoe comes out after the Raiders game and pretty much tells them to suck it up, and all of a sudden they want out huh?

What, they're not happy with JT? Some would call that Karma for the way they dogged it under Potter. Better the devil you know they say.

GNR you really are president, secretary and part of the dwindling membership of the JT Fan Boy club. Do you think departures are organised overnight by clubs and player managers?

Haha mate you can get rid of Taylor if you like, I won't lose any sleep. But I find it hilarious that the president of the "I hate JT club" (you) will jump on anyone who doesn't lay 100% of the blame on JT and label them as an apologist.

I don't hate JT. I just don't believe he is a NRL standard coach. If the coach can't get the team to perform on a consistent basis clearly there is an issue. And by performance I mean competing with other teams (not necessarily winning), where we can see improvement providing a foundation for the club to build on. The team has gone backwards this year and his tenure at the club a dark period.

 

[supercoach]

Yes its all the players fault jt cant coach to save his life.I hope a few rockets where fired his way but somehow i doubt it.

Dont worry, JT knows exactly whats expected of him and the consequences of not delivering….

Sounds great. Let's see how it plays out then. We came last last year. We are 3rd last this year. We look poorly coached. We had a debacle of an off season.

The way I see it we have to improve significantly or Taylor has to lose his job prior to next season.

Steve

Have you compared our best 17 against the other 15 sides best 17 yet ??

We are a bottom 4 side , you need to accept that

I saw Trent Robinson last night on Sterlo and really liked what I saw , but as he even has shown if you don't have the cattle you don't win footy games

It's that simple

Happy in your 31637 posts or what ever…this is one of the truest things you have ever posted!!!Look at our roster and barring probably Teddy and Woods no one would make a top four NRL team and the vast majority would struggle to crack any NRL side.

It is very hard to break the cycle, you need money and creditability in the NRL world to attract top line players and we have neither

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Paws, with the exception of Sheens, what coach has ever gotten anything out of any team we've had? Sure Taylor might stink, but you're living in a fool's paradise if you think getting rid of JT will rocket us to the moon. Our culture is rotten to the core, not helped by having little financial stability. JT is just one of a dozen reasons why we're sitting where we are sitting on the table.

 

[foreveratiger]

Bottom line is…....
# There is a mixture of players not up to 1st Grade standard
# Players not playing for there Coach
# A budgeted kitty for purchasing players
# A Coach with clueless gameplans
# No accountability for there performances
# Past Management with clueless Contract deals that has put a wedge in our recruitment.

Potter was doing fine until the Board stuck there nose in and didn't allow him to do there job ( they had a sook when Benji got benched).

We can't say we are surprised with how we are going, nothing wrong with being optimistic at the start of the year but reality is we are a very below average side IMO.

 

[strrretch]

Am getting the feeling that if he goes he will be another player that "comes good" when leaving the tigers. Can't see it as a good reflection of the club really, sad

 

[foreveratiger]

Yes its all the players fault jt cant coach to save his life.I hope a few rockets where fired his way but somehow i doubt it.

Dont worry, JT knows exactly whats expected of him and the consequences of not delivering….

Sounds great. Let's see how it plays out then. We came last last year. We are 3rd last this year. We look poorly coached. We had a debacle of an off season.

The way I see it we have to improve significantly or Taylor has to lose his job prior to next season.

Steve

Have you compared our best 17 against the other 15 sides best 17 yet ??

We are a bottom 4 side , you need to accept that

I saw Trent Robinson last night on Sterlo and really liked what I saw , but as he even has shown if you don't have the cattle you don't win footy games

It's that simple

Spot on happy, we simply don't have the cattle or a Coach that has the respect from his players.

JT tried to change the culture of the Club by trying to get rid of Farah but the boys club won…..so from that point on his fighting a loosing battle, had Bellamy tried to oust Farah? He would of succeeded and gone through with playing him in Reserve Grade if Farah didn't oblige.

There is a culture in our Club that stinks and only a Coach with real authority will fix this.

 

[hobbo]

Scarecrow should be sacked just before kick off this weekend .

Then it's a free BBQ and Kegs at my joint !

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Paws, with the exception of Sheens, what coach has ever gotten anything out of any team we've had? Sure Taylor might stink, but you're living in a fool's paradise if you think getting rid of JT will rocket us to the moon. Our culture is rotten to the core, not helped by having little financial stability. JT is just one of a dozen reasons why we're sitting where we are sitting on the table.

I note what you say and understand financial stability impacts on performance. Our next coach must be a great communicator to articulate his game plan and also to motivate players. I feel we have the basis for a very good team but need a clever coach in charge. Love him or hate him Sheens was a very clever man and I fondly recall his "work in progress comment". Some tweaking and a few smart acquisitions will see us back as a force but Taylor has to go immediately.

 

[cktiger]

Paws, with the exception of Sheens, what coach has ever gotten anything out of any team we've had? Sure Taylor might stink, but you're living in a fool's paradise if you think getting rid of JT will rocket us to the moon. Our culture is rotten to the core, not helped by having little financial stability. JT is just one of a dozen reasons why we're sitting where we are sitting on the table.

I note what you say and understand financial stability impacts on performance. Our next coach must be a great communicator to articulate his game plan and also to motivate players. **I feel we have the basis for a very good team but need a clever coach in charge.** Love him or hate him Sheens was a very clever man and I fondly recall his "work in progress comment". Some tweaking and a few smart acquisitions will see us back as a force but Taylor has to go immediately.

I totally agree here.
A lot is said about the unrealised potential in our side.
Good coaches seem to turn potential into talent.
Doesn't happen for us on a consistent level.

 

[happy_tiger]

Scarecrow should be sacked just before kick off this weekend .

Then it's a free BBQ and Kegs at my joint !

I've alerted Penriff Police

Do you have a Wanted Poster yet ??

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Outside Tesdesco, what potential? The squad aren't good enough. Just because we're attached to certain players doesn't mean they're what we want them to be.

 

[Eye_Of_Da_Tiger]

I think the game plan we does not suite the players we got. Maybe the game plan should work around the team and not vice a versa.

JT you got no idea. Look at your players strengths and work with them, improve on there weaknesses rather than try to make them there strengths.

 

[batboy]

When the teams weakness is they can't defend (As ours is)
The strengths don't matter so much - If you can't hold the opposition out, It doesn't matter how much flair you have with the ball in hand.

 

[happy_tiger]

When the teams weakness is they can't defend (As ours is)
The strengths don't matter so much - If you can't hold the opposition out, It doesn't matter how much flair you have with the ball in hand.

But attack is more important than defence , isn't it BB ??

 

[2041]

If its true would it be freeing up some cap room to have a crack at Hayne?

Ok, stop it - you're killing me. No, seriously, I've stopped laughing now. The answer is "no", BTW.