Dale Finucane

[Guest]

Dale Finucane 3 years $ 800 k per year is a strong player and leader

Wants $950K pa....no thanks

Finucane wants 700k per year on a minimum 3 year deal with 4th year option in his favor. So that's at least 2.1 mil for 3 years. Now if more than 1 club offers that sort of coin (he's not earning that much at the Storm), then it probably becomes a bidding war. If he can't stay at the Storm, I don't know if he has a preference outside of them. I don't think he's going down the same path as TPJ and demanding more to play for certain clubs.


Didnt you say last night $950K?

At $700K I'd be tempted to say yes even at the 4 years, at least one too many but....

That's TPJ who is asking for that amount.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Dale Finucane 3 years $ 800 k per year is a strong player and leader

Wants $950K pa....no thanks

Finucane wants 700k per year on a minimum 3 year deal with 4th year option in his favor. So that's at least 2.1 mil for 3 years. Now if more than 1 club offers that sort of coin (he's not earning that much at the Storm), then it probably becomes a bidding war. If he can't stay at the Storm, I don't know if he has a preference outside of them. I don't think he's going down the same path as TPJ and demanding more to play for certain clubs.

When the $700k amount gets mentioned the names Packer and Mbye spring to mind if Finucane isn't a better proposition than those to put together I don't know who is.

 

[Tiger5150]

Dale Finucane 3 years $ 800 k per year is a strong player and leader

Wants $950K pa....no thanks

Finucane wants 700k per year on a minimum 3 year deal with 4th year option in his favor. So that's at least 2.1 mil for 3 years. Now if more than 1 club offers that sort of coin (he's not earning that much at the Storm), then it probably becomes a bidding war. If he can't stay at the Storm, I don't know if he has a preference outside of them. I don't think he's going down the same path as TPJ and demanding more to play for certain clubs.


Didnt you say last night $950K?

At $700K I'd be tempted to say yes even at the 4 years, at least one too many but....

That's TPJ who is asking for that amount.

Ahhhhhh Im an idiot, it was right after your post on Finucane, I put 1 +1 together and got a penguin.

I'll be right back, I have some editing to do.

 

[clontarfkid]

Dale Finucane 3 years $ 800 k per year is a strong player and leader

Wants $950K pa....no thanks

Finucane wants 700k per year on a minimum 3 year deal with 4th year option in his favor. So that's at least 2.1 mil for 3 years. Now if more than 1 club offers that sort of coin (he's not earning that much at the Storm), then it probably becomes a bidding war. If he can't stay at the Storm, I don't know if he has a preference outside of them. I don't think he's going down the same path as TPJ and demanding more to play for certain clubs.

If 4th year is in "his favor"you can lock that extra year in in Eddie...no-one else is gonna be chasing him in his final year at 34!!
Reckon you cld be certain his manager is chasing a premium to play at chronic finals non-performers like WTs...but I cant see any of the top 4 clubs wanting to buy him at this age and stage him anyway,and certainly on a 4 yr deal effectively??Thats why theyre top 4 clubs.
Nup...hes gonna have to go to a cellar dwellar like us at a huge premium(if were silly enuff),or maybe a fringe "contender" like Raiders or Broncos who both have a bleak short term future but maybe in a couple of years...?

 

[The_Patriot]

3 year at 800k

No fourth year option, thats what super league is for if he wants to top up his retirement.

 

[Tiger5150]

Dale Finucane 3 years $ 800 k per year is a strong player and leader

Wants $950K pa....no thanks

Finucane wants 700k per year on a minimum 3 year deal with 4th year option in his favor. So that's at least 2.1 mil for 3 years. Now if more than 1 club offers that sort of coin (he's not earning that much at the Storm), then it probably becomes a bidding war. If he can't stay at the Storm, I don't know if he has a preference outside of them. I don't think he's going down the same path as TPJ and demanding more to play for certain clubs.

If 4th year is in "his favor"you can lock that extra year in in Eddie...no-one else is gonna be chasing him in his final year at 34!!
Reckon you cld be certain his manager is chasing a premium to play at chronic finals non-performers like WTs...but I cant see any of the top 4 clubs wanting to buy him at this age and stage him anyway,and certainly on a 4 yr deal effectively??Thats why theyre top 4 clubs.
Nup...hes gonna have to go to a cellar dwellar like us at a huge premium(if were silly enuff),or maybe a fringe "contender" like Raiders or Broncos who both have a bleak short term future but maybe in a couple of years...?

I think you are right on this, but the truth is, it is likely we are going to have to do an "overs" deal to get a good player over the line. IMO the trick is that the player you pay "overs" for has to be a good character so you know he is going to be a good influence in the team culture and not have people offside for his salary because he is not putting in. So on this count Tamou would be a tick and Packer a cross, but you also have to be sure that they can perform to a high enough standard in these later years (Tamou doesnt tick that box).

IMO Finucane is close, he ticks one of those boxes and if his presence help us get a few others over the line....a la Kasiano @ Souffs

 

[TigerWest]

Would be great to know what the club values him at per season?
Can just see a Packer scenario with him here for so long at his age, sitting in the stands injured, counting his money.
The numbers being bandied about, I would have thought TPJ was the better value, because of his age?

 

[hsvjones]

Dale Finucane 3 years $ 800 k per year is a strong player and leader

Wants $950K pa....no thanks

Finucane wants 700k per year on a minimum 3 year deal with 4th year option in his favor. So that's at least 2.1 mil for 3 years. Now if more than 1 club offers that sort of coin (he's not earning that much at the Storm), then it probably becomes a bidding war. If he can't stay at the Storm, I don't know if he has a preference outside of them. I don't think he's going down the same path as TPJ and demanding more to play for certain clubs.

700k would not be an issue for me for the 1st 3 years but 4th year should be a CO and not a PO except if we say 4th years drops to 400k PO. Do you think we are even a chance on this?

 

[happy_tiger]

We need to start thinking like the Top sides in some areas …

They don't pay Finuance that amount of money. They pay Brandan Smith 500k or less. It ain't rocket science.

I didn't mean the $$$'s actually spent ...how we set contracts up I meant ....incentive packages ..etc

 

[twentyforty]

For me its 2yrs + Club option at $650K. Or walk away.

 

[happy_tiger]

The two players at Melbourne I would've paid stupid money for were Brandon Smith and Nicho Hynes. They were the ones leading that team and dominating when Munster, Hughes, Papenhuyzen and Grant were all out. We missed the boat on Hynes but we need a player like Smith even more: he just seems like his attitude would be infectious. Be creative and offer Melbourne some of our young talent that they seem to do such a good job of developing (provided they are on board with it as an opportunity).

Their whole forward pack was dominate ...taht was how they were about to play that style of footy ......

 

[Newtown]

Dale Finucane 3 years $ 800 k per year is a strong player and leader

Wants $950K pa....no thanks

Finucane wants 700k per year on a minimum 3 year deal with 4th year option in his favor. So that's at least 2.1 mil for 3 years. Now if more than 1 club offers that sort of coin (he's not earning that much at the Storm), then it probably becomes a bidding war. If he can't stay at the Storm, I don't know if he has a preference outside of them. I don't think he's going down the same path as TPJ and demanding more to play for certain clubs.

If 4th year is in "his favor"you can lock that extra year in in Eddie...no-one else is gonna be chasing him in his final year at 34!!
Reckon you cld be certain his manager is chasing a premium to play at chronic finals non-performers like WTs...but I cant see any of the top 4 clubs wanting to buy him at this age and stage him anyway,and certainly on a 4 yr deal effectively??Thats why theyre top 4 clubs.
Nup...hes gonna have to go to a cellar dwellar like us at a huge premium(if were silly enuff),or maybe a fringe "contender" like Raiders or Broncos who both have a bleak short term future but maybe in a couple of years...?

Why doesn't V'Landy's do something to correct this incongruous situation which is heavily biased against the lower based clubs,

 

[sleeve]

Dale Finucane 3 years $ 800 k per year is a strong player and leader

Wants $950K pa....no thanks

Finucane wants 700k per year on a minimum 3 year deal with 4th year option in his favor. So that's at least 2.1 mil for 3 years. Now if more than 1 club offers that sort of coin (he's not earning that much at the Storm), then it probably becomes a bidding war. If he can't stay at the Storm, I don't know if he has a preference outside of them. I don't think he's going down the same path as TPJ and demanding more to play for certain clubs.

If 4th year is in "his favor"you can lock that extra year in in Eddie...no-one else is gonna be chasing him in his final year at 34!!
Reckon you cld be certain his manager is chasing a premium to play at chronic finals non-performers like WTs...but I cant see any of the top 4 clubs wanting to buy him at this age and stage him anyway,and certainly on a 4 yr deal effectively??Thats why theyre top 4 clubs.
Nup...hes gonna have to go to a cellar dwellar like us at a huge premium(if were silly enuff),or maybe a fringe "contender" like Raiders or Broncos who both have a bleak short term future but maybe in a couple of years...?

Why doesn't V'Landy's do something to correct this incongruous situation which is heavily biased against the lower based clubs,

It all comes back to the massive salaries of some players. Players like Teddy, Turbo and his brother,Munster, Smith and others love the game, and want to achieve great hights.
Then you can get caught signing established players who by 26 have 3 mil in the bank and are worried about their looks or future injuries and just coast along, they are set for life.
Mbye, Packer, Reynolds, are just a few we have been unlucky with, but most clubs get stuck with at least one.
It is understandable , why we are gun-shy at spending big dollars, but it is a big risk. Though saying that, Hynes,Burton,Staines etc would have been players i would have chased and said so at the time.

 

[Harvey]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

 

[earl]

Storm would probably want a player in order to release Smith for 2022
As much as I would not like to see it do you look at Simpkin or Liddle but he has just re signed

They can have them all

Player swaps are fantasies in the NRL. They don't really exist. They can definitely have one of them though. We keep the other as a utility.

Well, except for that whole player swap that happened last season...

It's very very rare. It only exists if two clubs and two players agree to it. There is no trade system in place.

Sure, but we at least created a blueprint for it last season. We are not doing well at the traditional methods of recruitment (i.e. be a desirable destination or throw stupid money to outbid the market) so it wouldn't hurt to try being creative.

Smith is under contract for next year so Melbourne have a say in whether or not he's released. We can make ourselves desirable to Smith by throwing stupid money at him, but then so could other clubs. Our advantage over other clubs lies in what we could offer Melbourne, given we have some of the best young talent in the league.

Smith wants his extra $400K next year and needs a release from Melbourne to get it. We can help get that release by giving up someone who, let's face it, is probably not going to be kicking and screaming about the prospect of developing their career in the best system in the game. Worth exploring.

I'd refuse to engage like that any more. It'd be really simple. We sign Smith for the year following his release from the Storm. That is the contract we negotiate. If we get a deal on that contract we go to Melbourne and state can we do a deal ? Of course you'd try to get him early if we could. Surely Liddle or Simpkin want to be getting plenty of NRL time and in that situation I reckon one of them would be happy to go.

 

[earl]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

This is gold.

 

[happy_tiger]

Dale Finucane 3 years $ 800 k per year is a strong player and leader

Wants $950K pa....no thanks

Finucane wants 700k per year on a minimum 3 year deal with 4th year option in his favor. So that's at least 2.1 mil for 3 years. Now if more than 1 club offers that sort of coin (he's not earning that much at the Storm), then it probably becomes a bidding war. If he can't stay at the Storm, I don't know if he has a preference outside of them. I don't think he's going down the same path as TPJ and demanding more to play for certain clubs.

If 4th year is in "his favor"you can lock that extra year in in Eddie...no-one else is gonna be chasing him in his final year at 34!!
Reckon you cld be certain his manager is chasing a premium to play at chronic finals non-performers like WTs...but I cant see any of the top 4 clubs wanting to buy him at this age and stage him anyway,and certainly on a 4 yr deal effectively??Thats why theyre top 4 clubs.
Nup...hes gonna have to go to a cellar dwellar like us at a huge premium(if were silly enuff),or maybe a fringe "contender" like Raiders or Broncos who both have a bleak short term future but maybe in a couple of years...?

Why doesn't V'Landy's do something to correct this incongruous situation which is heavily biased against the lower based clubs,

It all comes back to the massive salaries of some players. Players like Teddy, Turbo and his brother,Munster, Smith and others love the game, and want to achieve great hights.
Then you can get caught signing established players who by 26 have 3 mil in the bank and are worried about their looks or future injuries and just coast along, they are set for life.
Mbye, Packer, Reynolds, are just a few we have been unlucky with, but most clubs get stuck with at least one.
It is understandable , why we are gun-shy at spending big dollars, but it is a big risk. Though saying that, Hynes,Burton,Staines etc would have been players i would have chased and said so at the time.

When you have the money ....the cars ...the boat ....beautiful house ...your next concern is your legacy ...how many premierships will I end up with ..........how good a player will I be seen as .....

Take a lot of guts / balls to come and sign with us .....could do more harm to your reputation as a footballer

I love the WT's ...but I tell you I'd have to think long and hard before I signed with us to finish my career off ....

 

[TigerWest]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

 

[JC99]

He's been named vice captain for Nsw and it sounds like he'll be starting for them too possibly

 

[happy_tiger]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly