David Nofoaluma #164

[Holden]

How many SOO games has he played = 0. The reason is he is not good enough.

Yes, I agree that Freddy Fittler should be the judge of whether someone is a good player or not. Gutho is a great centre. Paul Vaughan is the best prop in the game (2019 selection I know).

Why use hyperbole to make your point? There have been other SOO coaches and he hasn't been selected. Why? Not good enough.

It's just a silly argument that we judge someone is solely judged by whether they play origin. Don't like him? Say why instead of depending Freddy's or Laurie's opinion.

It's not a matter of liking or disliking him. He for what he brings is imo on overs. Brett Morris offers more at the Roosters but I suspect the Roosters aren't paying him what Nofoaluma receives. Maybe that is a benchmark Hartigan uses?


Out of curiosity, what does Brett offer more? He certainly looks good scoring those tries but doesnt everyone at the Roosters and Storm?

He brings with him experience as both a former Australian and SOO rep. He maintains his place at his age in a very strong team. With that team keen to continue his career is an indication of how valued he has become at that club. The Morris bros are fierce competitors, with the advantage of being tall and strong in the air. Brett still maintains good pace, finishing and is. a strong defender. I suspect also both bros represent good value for money. Also he doesn't seem to keen to want his manager play out his contract negs. in the media. Select or remove attributes as applicable to Nofoaluma.


I think the only parts of this I can agree with on is managers and defence, I definitely remember some awesome run downs by both. In re to managers the Morris twins haven’t been in a situation where they needed one imo.

Nofa is a fierce competitor, actually his our most competitive, his got pace, his got awesome finishing (anyone remember that try where he kicked the ball to himself while in midair outside the sideline? I cant remember which game that was but if anyone can remember let me know)
He just needs to stop rushing in on defence ?‍♂️?‍♂️?‍♂️

We each have different views on players. Brett Morris is a former Kangaroo and SOO rep while Nofoaluma is not. My view is the Morris boys are far superior to Nofoaluma and always were. Both were produced from a very strong RL nursery, the Illawarra, which counts for something in calculations.

You’re quite right and thats alright, I’m just enjoying the debate tbh! I’m an analyst for work (not the data reading kind) I basically study patterns and behaviours all day for a living, which i think is why the nrl is fun to watch, i basically sit there and analyse ?

 

[earl]

Nofo can play. He is great for us. He'd be even better with some better players across the park. I really hope he stays.

We still can't get into we have to keep him at all costs mentality. Loyalty to me is about these players signing early and for fair money. That keeps them out of the lime light and allows them to focus on their careers. It allows us to build a team. I'm not talking about underpaying these guys. It's just that not every player can get marquee player dollars. Nofo shouldn't be getting silly money.

 

[TigerWest]

Nofo can play. He is great for us. He'd be even better with some better players across the park. I really hope he stays.

We still can't get into we have to keep him at all costs mentality. Loyalty to me is about these players signing early and for fair money. That keeps them out of the lime light and allows them to focus on their careers. It allows us to build a team. I'm not talking about underpaying these guys. It's just that not every player can get marquee player dollars. Nofo shouldn't be getting silly money.

Good point about signing early, he is still contracted for next season, is that his last?
Maybe he should worry about playing some good footy before counting on 2022 money.

 

[Holden]

Nofo can play. He is great for us. He'd be even better with some better players across the park. I really hope he stays.

We still can't get into we have to keep him at all costs mentality. Loyalty to me is about these players signing early and for fair money. That keeps them out of the lime light and allows them to focus on their careers. It allows us to build a team. I'm not talking about underpaying these guys. It's just that not every player can get marquee player dollars. Nofo shouldn't be getting silly money.

I dont like commenting on money in re to players just cause I have 0 hindsight around it normally. I think its so hard to judge seeing as old clubs pay a little bit, people have a lot of the time increasing contract (e.g 200k 2020, 250K 2021, 300K 2022)

But yea I wouldnt pay nofa more than 550 after having a think, but like thats taking into consideration his a Junior, his loyalty and basically cos I’m in love with a winger being able to cut in so well

 

[bathursttiger1]

Wingers in general score a lot of TRIES cause they are marked by wingers

That sounds like a Gus quote, your not Gus incognito are you?

 

[851]

How many SOO games has he played = 0. The reason is he is not good enough.

Yes, I agree that Freddy Fittler should be the judge of whether someone is a good player or not. Gutho is a great centre. Paul Vaughan is the best prop in the game (2019 selection I know).

Beat me to it, Nofa was Dally M winger of the year, Freddy is a poor coach with no idea how to pick a team, Nofa should have been there this year. Queensland must love Freddy picking his teams out of his phone contacts, same coach who had Anasta at fullback when he coached the Roosters to the wooden spoon and got shown the door.

 

[jadtiger]

Wingers in general score a lot of TRIES cause they are marked by wingers


That sounds like a Gus quote, your not Gus incognito are you?

That quote goes back many decades, i have no idea who first said it but it was around when i was a teenager 50 years ago.

 

[MarySt]

Pretty disappointed with the majority of responses in this thread.

He's an integral part of our team, bleeds for the club and plays his heart out every time he steps on the field. On top of that he's easily in the top 3 wingers in the game at the moment, him winning the dally m makes that an undisputed claim. He would not be easily replaced

If we lost him it would be dark days for the club. Let's hope the club and him come to a resolution sooner than later

wow chicken little the sky is falling in he is a winger
what was a dark day for the club was when we lost tedesco nsw fullback and nsw captain Australian fullback
Nofo is a good club winger at 400k or 450k then stay anymore then leave

You probably said the same thing when Tedesco left

 

[OzLuke]

I think the reasons Freddy gave for choosing Foxx and Tupou over David were valid.


I think it was reasonable for Tupou and JAC to play SOO but I thought it smelt like a steaming pile that Nofo didn't get a run in the train-on side.

I actually don't mind Freddy but his selections this year were astonishing and it didn't surprise me NSW lost.

I agree with this....why is it that one of the top 3/4 try scorers in the comp can't even make the squad?
But then again we thrive in putting 5/8s and fullbacks in centre and wing.....

 

[Holden]

I think the reasons Freddy gave for choosing Foxx and Tupou over David were valid.


I think it was reasonable for Tupou and JAC to play SOO but I thought it smelt like a steaming pile that Nofo didn't get a run in the train-on side.

I actually don't mind Freddy but his selections this year were astonishing and it didn't surprise me NSW lost.

I agree with this....why is it that one of the top 3/4 try scorers in the comp can't even make the squad?
But then again we thrive in putting 5/8s and fullbacks in centre and wing.....

And he also wanted to put turbo in, if turbo hadnt taken himself out the bloke would have played, with literally 0 performance this year.

Edit: I rate turbo highly just an fyi

 

[OzLuke]

I think the reasons Freddy gave for choosing Foxx and Tupou over David were valid.


I think it was reasonable for Tupou and JAC to play SOO but I thought it smelt like a steaming pile that Nofo didn't get a run in the train-on side.

I actually don't mind Freddy but his selections this year were astonishing and it didn't surprise me NSW lost.

I agree with this....why is it that one of the top 3/4 try scorers in the comp can't even make the squad?
But then again we thrive in putting 5/8s and fullbacks in centre and wing.....

And he also wanted to put turbo in, if turbo hadnt taken himself out the bloke would have played, with literally 0 performance this year.

freddy is a grade a flog who believes his own hype....

so do I but thank god common sense prevailed....from the player

 

[Holden]

I think the reasons Freddy gave for choosing Foxx and Tupou over David were valid.


I think it was reasonable for Tupou and JAC to play SOO but I thought it smelt like a steaming pile that Nofo didn't get a run in the train-on side.

I actually don't mind Freddy but his selections this year were astonishing and it didn't surprise me NSW lost.

I agree with this....why is it that one of the top 3/4 try scorers in the comp can't even make the squad?
But then again we thrive in putting 5/8s and fullbacks in centre and wing.....

And he also wanted to put turbo in, if turbo hadnt taken himself out the bloke would have played, with literally 0 performance this year.

freddy is a grade a flog who believes his own hype....

so do I but thank god common sense prevailed....from the player

Straight out, with that being said hope turbo stays injury free next year, his such a decent player to watch

 

[rustycage]

Noffa definitely ran over a few people’s dogs, The hate is quite irrational. To some, it matches the dribble people used to go on about with JT

Probably more the understanding that Nofoaluma is an average club winger, nothing more. Yes he and his manager are happy to inform us he is loyal but that must be accompanied with more cash. Sorry but he can be on his way.

Average club winger? Can you name a better ball running winger who breaks more tackles in the competition?

How many SOO games has he played = 0. The reason is he is not good enough. I like to believe I am a fair judge and not blinded by the fact he plays for WTs.. We can find good replacements from within WTs which is the way it should be.

To be fair, there's been many a nsw team selected with an origin coaches perceived best 17 rather than best team with players picked in individual positions. Often is the time a centre or fullback is selected on the wing in origin. Noff I don't believe will ever play rep footy. He simply doesn't have the outstanding ability as a winger or the flexibility. Love his workload, love his passion, won't lose sleep if he receives a bigger offer than us out there. I don't believe this will happen though.

 

[rustycage]

Noffa definitely ran over a few people’s dogs, The hate is quite irrational. To some, it matches the dribble people used to go on about with JT

Probably more the understanding that Nofoaluma is an average club winger, nothing more. Yes he and his manager are happy to inform us he is loyal but that must be accompanied with more cash. Sorry but he can be on his way.

Average club winger? Can you name a better ball running winger who breaks more tackles in the competition?

How many SOO games has he played = 0. The reason is he is not good enough. I like to believe I am a fair judge and not blinded by the fact he plays for WTs.. We can find good replacements from within WTs which is the way it should be.

So what. Are you calling every player whose never played Origin average?

We've seen far better outside backs depart WTs for differing reasons. I am referring to Koroibete, JAC and Simona. All are/were in a different class to Nofoaluma as outside backs. All possess/ed the one commodity that brings a new dimension to the attack and defence, genuine pace over long distance. Nofoaluma's departure for another club would be a semi colon on the history of WTs, not a full stop.

And to be sure, if he moves on the media will no doubt call for a semi colonoscopy.

 

[Tigercrb]

Just read an article on Jharal Yow Yee.

Poor bugger had the world at his feet. Qld, Australian rep at 22 then done with a compound fracture.

Similar to Simon dwyer and taniela, except he had already reached the heights.

I can't begrudge any player chasing their top dollars these injuries can occur at any second.

It's when contracts get broken and players sulk to get out that I can't support them.

If Noffa gets a better offer and we don't match it, best of luck to him or any other player.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I think the reasons Freddy gave for choosing Foxx and Tupou over David were valid.


I think it was reasonable for Tupou and JAC to play SOO but I thought it smelt like a steaming pile that Nofo didn't get a run in the train-on side.

I actually don't mind Freddy but his selections this year were astonishing and it didn't surprise me NSW lost.

Actually no your right, him not being included in training even was a bit much, specially being Dally M winger of the year and being picked in the annual team of the year (something JAC didnt get, altho he does so well consistently its hard to rate the guy for more at this point)

oh you mean the JAC who has won premierships and played for nsw and Australia
vs
David who well had one good season and not played finals
Got it

 

[HowDugWT]

Just read an article on Jharal Yow Yee.

Poor bugger had the world at his feet. Qld, Australian rep at 22 then done with a compound fracture.

Similar to Simon dwyer and taniela, except he had already reached the heights.

I can't begrudge any player chasing their top dollars these injuries can occur at any second.

It's when contracts get broken and players sulk to get out that I can't support them.

If Noffa gets a better offer and we don't match it, best of luck to him or any other player.

What if Nofa does leave and tigers get JAC and then we also have Laurie. I would LOVE to keep Nofa but idk if he will want to stay.

Let the 2021 season decide that

 

[diedpretty]

Noffa definitely ran over a few people’s dogs, The hate is quite irrational. To some, it matches the dribble people used to go on about with JT

Probably more the understanding that Nofoaluma is an average club winger, nothing more. Yes he and his manager are happy to inform us he is loyal but that must be accompanied with more cash. Sorry but he can be on his way.

Average club winger? Can you name a better ball running winger who breaks more tackles in the competition?

How many SOO games has he played = 0. The reason is he is not good enough. I like to believe I am a fair judge and not blinded by the fact he plays for WTs.. We can find good replacements from within WTs which is the way it should be.

Why is that people keep judging players on SOO appearances. Yes there are the elite that play SOO every year but man there have been some real plodders that have played SOO just because of the team they were in.

 

[diedpretty]

How many SOO games has he played = 0. The reason is he is not good enough.

Yes, I agree that Freddy Fittler should be the judge of whether someone is a good player or not. Gutho is a great centre. Paul Vaughan is the best prop in the game (2019 selection I know).

Beat me to it, Nofa was Dally M winger of the year, Freddy is a poor coach with no idea how to pick a team, Nofa should have been there this year. Queensland must love Freddy picking his teams out of his phone contacts, same coach who had Anasta at fullback when he coached the Roosters to the wooden spoon and got shown the door.

Yep and he has Johns and Alexander advising him - what a joke - no wonder NSW lost.

 

[Holden]

I think the reasons Freddy gave for choosing Foxx and Tupou over David were valid.


I think it was reasonable for Tupou and JAC to play SOO but I thought it smelt like a steaming pile that Nofo didn't get a run in the train-on side.

I actually don't mind Freddy but his selections this year were astonishing and it didn't surprise me NSW lost.

Actually no your right, him not being included in training even was a bit much, specially being Dally M winger of the year and being picked in the annual team of the year (something JAC didnt get, altho he does so well consistently its hard to rate the guy for more at this point)

oh you mean the JAC who has won premierships and played for nsw and Australia
vs
David who well had one good season and not played finals
Got it

Yo JAC in undisputable Im not trying to say David over JAC, never would