David Nofoaluma #164

[Russell]

Nofo has had ONE good year

One very good year and some ordinary years mixed in his career agree he's a very good clubman but appears that someone is in his ear stroking his ego

But you make roster decisions based on projected performance and Noff does appear to be rising to an elite performer, what he did prior to last year is really a non factor.

It’s a huge factor. He’s had one good season since 2016.

I disagree. If I’m going into a room for a retention meeting to discuss how I project he’ll perform in 2021, a great year in 2020 is carrying much more weight than an average 2017 - and I also think he’s been a good (maybe not great) player since his debut. To me Noff found more confidence in himself last year which I know is powerful in rugby league. He believes he will play origin, good on him.

In the past 4 seasons he’s played to his contract value once. To reward him with an upgraded 4 year contract is bonkers imo.

I’d pay 3 years at 500 with a club option, that’s probably max for me.

$400k x 2 absolute max.

Then he’s gone and we probably pick up a worse player and go backwards

If he goes we won’t be going backwards on the ladder. He is a bit overrated on here due to his perceived loyalty. Funnily enough I went into the south’s forum to see their reaction to potentially signing Nofo and it is pretty much unanimous that they’d prefer Mansour.

As if you would take any notice of what those scumbags think.

As for going onto the Souffs forum - you should be ashamed of yourself....Boo!!!! Lol

 

[avocadoontoast]

Nofo has had ONE good year

One very good year and some ordinary years mixed in his career agree he's a very good clubman but appears that someone is in his ear stroking his ego

But you make roster decisions based on projected performance and Noff does appear to be rising to an elite performer, what he did prior to last year is really a non factor.

It’s a huge factor. He’s had one good season since 2016.

I disagree. If I’m going into a room for a retention meeting to discuss how I project he’ll perform in 2021, a great year in 2020 is carrying much more weight than an average 2017 - and I also think he’s been a good (maybe not great) player since his debut. To me Noff found more confidence in himself last year which I know is powerful in rugby league. He believes he will play origin, good on him.

In the past 4 seasons he’s played to his contract value once. To reward him with an upgraded 4 year contract is bonkers imo.

I’d pay 3 years at 500 with a club option, that’s probably max for me.

$400k x 2 absolute max.

Then he’s gone and we probably pick up a worse player and go backwards

If he goes we won’t be going backwards on the ladder. He is a bit overrated on here due to his perceived loyalty. Funnily enough I went into the south’s forum to see their reaction to potentially signing Nofo and it is pretty much unanimous that they’d prefer Mansour.

As if you would take any notice of what those scumbags think.

As for going onto the Souffs forum - you should be ashamed of yourself....Boo!!!! Lol

They’d look at it objectively at least, not with Tigers goggles on.

 

[hank37w]

A wingers value would be more than centre’s these days when you take into account finishing and the importance of getting sets of to starts...

Some of the TRIES they score are amazing feats...Nofoaluma would be up there in both areas

I remember that try that Nofo scored against Manly about 7 years ago where he jumped high and planted the ball with legs up close to the side line.

I remember it was all over the news at the time, to me that was really the start of an era of wingers scoring amazing acrobatic trys.

There have been trys by others since then that probably eclipse that effort, but as far as I am concerned, Nofo was a bit of a trend setter.

 

[rihannafan1]

If it’s true that Nofa is asking $650k then he’s priced himself out of WT. I hope he gets picked up by eels and gets a combo going with Moses. I think we paid too much for Nofa ($450k) at a time when we had all our stars leaving and now it’s biting us on the gluteus because everyone with a sentimental soul , including Nofa, thinks he’s worth an upgrade. During the last 3 years when he was on $450k , Fox was on $350k. I still think his true value to WT is $325k plus a top up with vets and car of about $80k - $100k. You never no if you don’t ask? Someone was desperate enough to buy fox at $650k. It’s going to be very interesting to see how that unfolds?

it is scary to think JAC was on 350k and Nofo 450k
right time right place for Nofo when our stars left he stayed
Shouldn't be able to win lotto twice
Joey L can leave end of 2022 ? imagine nofo money for Stagg or Stephen crighton

Key word: imagine.

cash is a reality if we use it for 2022 one hell of a war chest
Packer and Nofo money on Stagg or Crighton and a depth player signing

I agree that we pay 450k at the most and really it's the appropriate amount for Nofo. But Staggs and Crichton are much younger than him and have already had somewhat comparable career best years. Wests Tigers are not signing them on 450-500k and we just don't have the TPAs to do anything else. You can imagine but it will never ever happen.

 

[Masterton]

all i can say is remember the game against Melbourne at the sunshine coast near the end of the year, Addo Carr made Nofa look like a very average winger

I remember a recent game where Fergo made Addo look dreadful. Outjumped him 5 times. Not saying he's better, but as they say in boxing, styles make fights.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

If it’s true that Nofa is asking $650k then he’s priced himself out of WT. I hope he gets picked up by eels and gets a combo going with Moses. I think we paid too much for Nofa ($450k) at a time when we had all our stars leaving and now it’s biting us on the gluteus because everyone with a sentimental soul , including Nofa, thinks he’s worth an upgrade. During the last 3 years when he was on $450k , Fox was on $350k. I still think his true value to WT is $325k plus a top up with vets and car of about $80k - $100k. You never no if you don’t ask? Someone was desperate enough to buy fox at $650k. It’s going to be very interesting to see how that unfolds?

it is scary to think JAC was on 350k and Nofo 450k
right time right place for Nofo when our stars left he stayed
Shouldn't be able to win lotto twice
Joey L can leave end of 2022 ? imagine nofo money for Stagg or Stephen crighton

Key word: imagine.

cash is a reality if we use it for 2022 one hell of a war chest
Packer and Nofo money on Stagg or Crighton and a depth player signing


I agree that we pay 450k at the most and really it's the appropriate amount for Nofo. But Staggs and Crichton are much younger than him and have already had somewhat comparable career best years. Wests Tigers are not signing them on 450-500k and we just don't have the TPAs to do anything else. You can imagine but it will never ever happen.

Packer and Nofo money should get us one of Crighton, Staggs

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

If it’s true that Nofa is asking $650k then he’s priced himself out of WT. I hope he gets picked up by eels and gets a combo going with Moses. I think we paid too much for Nofa ($450k) at a time when we had all our stars leaving and now it’s biting us on the gluteus because everyone with a sentimental soul , including Nofa, thinks he’s worth an upgrade. During the last 3 years when he was on $450k , Fox was on $350k. I still think his true value to WT is $325k plus a top up with vets and car of about $80k - $100k. You never no if you don’t ask? Someone was desperate enough to buy fox at $650k. It’s going to be very interesting to see how that unfolds?

it is scary to think JAC was on 350k and Nofo 450k
right time right place for Nofo when our stars left he stayed
Shouldn't be able to win lotto twice
Joey L can leave end of 2022 ? imagine nofo money for Stagg or Stephen crighton

Key word: imagine.

cash is a reality if we use it for 2022 one hell of a war chest
Packer and Nofo money on Stagg or Crighton and a depth player signing


I agree that we pay 450k at the most and really it's the appropriate amount for Nofo. But Staggs and Crichton are much younger than him and have already had somewhat comparable career best years. Wests Tigers are not signing them on 450-500k and we just don't have the TPAs to do anything else. You can imagine but it will never ever happen.

Packer and Nofo money should get us one of Crighton, Staggs

Can you be consistent. Paying overs for those 2 is ok?

Packer & Noffo salary combined is overs for both these players a year.

 

[BAGNF05]

Nofo has had ONE good year

One very good year and some ordinary years mixed in his career agree he's a very good clubman but appears that someone is in his ear stroking his ego

But you make roster decisions based on projected performance and Noff does appear to be rising to an elite performer, what he did prior to last year is really a non factor.

It’s a huge factor. He’s had one good season since 2016.

I disagree. If I’m going into a room for a retention meeting to discuss how I project he’ll perform in 2021, a great year in 2020 is carrying much more weight than an average 2017 - and I also think he’s been a good (maybe not great) player since his debut. To me Noff found more confidence in himself last year which I know is powerful in rugby league. He believes he will play origin, good on him.

In the past 4 seasons he’s played to his contract value once. To reward him with an upgraded 4 year contract is bonkers imo.

I’d pay 3 years at 500 with a club option, that’s probably max for me.

$400k x 2 absolute max.

Then he’s gone and we probably pick up a worse player and go backwards

It doesn't work like that. It means we can spend that money elsewhere.

Mate, we could have a squillion dollars available, it’s clear we are having a really tough time getting elite players here.

agree with that but we need to pay overs for the right player like Brandon Smith or a Munster etc

100% agree to go after them but 100% doubt we get them if we keep letting go of the Teddy’s, the Matto’s, the Noffa’s. Etc

I always have a giggle with people saying we ‘let’ Tedesco go. Memory has it that we offered him $1.1M to stay. He was going no matter what.

Should have offered more then.

$1.5, $2m, how much?

$1.2 million and a sandwich bag ?

 

[sleeve]

Paying overs has always been risky,and most clubs have been burnt.It's a calculated risk,but the reality is there are times when you must do it.With many clubs in the market for top players,you may have no other option.We have been wise with our cap recently,and no doubt the club has been keeping money in the bank to allow for paying overs if required.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

If it’s true that Nofa is asking $650k then he’s priced himself out of WT. I hope he gets picked up by eels and gets a combo going with Moses. I think we paid too much for Nofa ($450k) at a time when we had all our stars leaving and now it’s biting us on the gluteus because everyone with a sentimental soul , including Nofa, thinks he’s worth an upgrade. During the last 3 years when he was on $450k , Fox was on $350k. I still think his true value to WT is $325k plus a top up with vets and car of about $80k - $100k. You never no if you don’t ask? Someone was desperate enough to buy fox at $650k. It’s going to be very interesting to see how that unfolds?

it is scary to think JAC was on 350k and Nofo 450k
right time right place for Nofo when our stars left he stayed
Shouldn't be able to win lotto twice
Joey L can leave end of 2022 ? imagine nofo money for Stagg or Stephen crighton

Key word: imagine.

cash is a reality if we use it for 2022 one hell of a war chest
Packer and Nofo money on Stagg or Crighton and a depth player signing


I agree that we pay 450k at the most and really it's the appropriate amount for Nofo. But Staggs and Crichton are much younger than him and have already had somewhat comparable career best years. Wests Tigers are not signing them on 450-500k and we just don't have the TPAs to do anything else. You can imagine but it will never ever happen.

Packer and Nofo money should get us one of Crighton, Staggs

Can you be consistent. Paying overs for those 2 is ok?

Packer & Noffo salary combined is overs for both these players a year.

well quality players like Brandon Smith and crighton Staggs are good players and attract good players so yes it is worth paying a bit overs to them.
Paying our David any more money will not attract quality players it has not in the past.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Paying overs has always been risky,and most clubs have been burnt.It's a calculated risk,but the reality is there are times when you must do it.With many clubs in the market for top players,you may have no other option.We have been wise with our cap recently,and no doubt the club has been keeping money in the bank to allow for paying overs if required.

exactly for crighton staggs or Brandon Smith overs is worth it.
Good luck to David if some club pays him 500k plus just hope it is not us doing it

 

[crazycat]

If it’s true that Nofa is asking $650k then he’s priced himself out of WT. I hope he gets picked up by eels and gets a combo going with Moses. I think we paid too much for Nofa ($450k) at a time when we had all our stars leaving and now it’s biting us on the gluteus because everyone with a sentimental soul , including Nofa, thinks he’s worth an upgrade. During the last 3 years when he was on $450k , Fox was on $350k. I still think his true value to WT is $325k plus a top up with vets and car of about $80k - $100k. You never no if you don’t ask? Someone was desperate enough to buy fox at $650k. It’s going to be very interesting to see how that unfolds?

it is scary to think JAC was on 350k and Nofo 450k
right time right place for Nofo when our stars left he stayed
Shouldn't be able to win lotto twice
Joey L can leave end of 2022 ? imagine nofo money for Stagg or Stephen crighton

Key word: imagine.

cash is a reality if we use it for 2022 one hell of a war chest
Packer and Nofo money on Stagg or Crighton and a depth player signing


I agree that we pay 450k at the most and really it's the appropriate amount for Nofo. But Staggs and Crichton are much younger than him and have already had somewhat comparable career best years. Wests Tigers are not signing them on 450-500k and we just don't have the TPAs to do anything else. You can imagine but it will never ever happen.

Packer and Nofo money should get us one of Crighton, Staggs

Can you be consistent. Paying overs for those 2 is ok?

Packer & Noffo salary combined is overs for both these players a year.

I dont get this.
We have a 450K winger wanting 450K. Pay the man his money.

Dont go hiring a 30 year old winger on his way out to replace him, even if your paying Unders.
Dont go hiring Crighton (Steven) or Staggs for a Million to replace him.

Pay Nofo his due. You have a 27year old winger who has hit form. More importantly he Combines well with BJ and Luciano Leulia. DONT FIX WHATS WORKING!

We have no clear NR1, we have forwards that try but get beaten by better teams. We have the leagues nr3 tryscorer and everyone goes "lets replace that guy"! I dont get it.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

If it’s true that Nofa is asking $650k then he’s priced himself out of WT. I hope he gets picked up by eels and gets a combo going with Moses. I think we paid too much for Nofa ($450k) at a time when we had all our stars leaving and now it’s biting us on the gluteus because everyone with a sentimental soul , including Nofa, thinks he’s worth an upgrade. During the last 3 years when he was on $450k , Fox was on $350k. I still think his true value to WT is $325k plus a top up with vets and car of about $80k - $100k. You never no if you don’t ask? Someone was desperate enough to buy fox at $650k. It’s going to be very interesting to see how that unfolds?

it is scary to think JAC was on 350k and Nofo 450k
right time right place for Nofo when our stars left he stayed
Shouldn't be able to win lotto twice
Joey L can leave end of 2022 ? imagine nofo money for Stagg or Stephen crighton

Key word: imagine.

cash is a reality if we use it for 2022 one hell of a war chest
Packer and Nofo money on Stagg or Crighton and a depth player signing


I agree that we pay 450k at the most and really it's the appropriate amount for Nofo. But Staggs and Crichton are much younger than him and have already had somewhat comparable career best years. Wests Tigers are not signing them on 450-500k and we just don't have the TPAs to do anything else. You can imagine but it will never ever happen.

Packer and Nofo money should get us one of Crighton, Staggs

Can you be consistent. Paying overs for those 2 is ok?

Packer & Noffo salary combined is overs for both these players a year.

I dont get this.
We have a 450K winger wanting 450K. Pay the man his money.

Dont go hiring a 30 year old winger on his way out to replace him, even if your paying Unders.
Dont go hiring Crighton (Steven) or Staggs for a Million to replace him.

Pay Nofo his due. You have a 27year old winger who has hit form. More importantly he Combines well with BJ and Luciano Leulia. DONT FIX WHATS WORKING!

We have no clear NR1, we have forwards that try but get beaten by better teams. We have the leagues nr3 tryscorer and everyone goes "lets replace that guy"! I dont get it.

He has another year at WTs. There is no need to panic buy. We have lots of talented youngsters who I'm sure would welcome an oportunity if Nofoaluma goes.

Nofoaluma I have no doubt has been offered fair market value by the Club. Sorry but the I'm a loyal club man as long as you pay me what I want is tedious.

The combination you mentioned didn't work. There were too many poor defenders on the rivht, Nofoaluma being one of the main offenders although Marshall seemed to cop all the flak.

 

[TigerWest]

If it’s true that Nofa is asking $650k then he’s priced himself out of WT. I hope he gets picked up by eels and gets a combo going with Moses. I think we paid too much for Nofa ($450k) at a time when we had all our stars leaving and now it’s biting us on the gluteus because everyone with a sentimental soul , including Nofa, thinks he’s worth an upgrade. During the last 3 years when he was on $450k , Fox was on $350k. I still think his true value to WT is $325k plus a top up with vets and car of about $80k - $100k. You never no if you don’t ask? Someone was desperate enough to buy fox at $650k. It’s going to be very interesting to see how that unfolds?

it is scary to think JAC was on 350k and Nofo 450k
right time right place for Nofo when our stars left he stayed
Shouldn't be able to win lotto twice
Joey L can leave end of 2022 ? imagine nofo money for Stagg or Stephen crighton

Key word: imagine.

cash is a reality if we use it for 2022 one hell of a war chest
Packer and Nofo money on Stagg or Crighton and a depth player signing


I agree that we pay 450k at the most and really it's the appropriate amount for Nofo. But Staggs and Crichton are much younger than him and have already had somewhat comparable career best years. Wests Tigers are not signing them on 450-500k and we just don't have the TPAs to do anything else. You can imagine but it will never ever happen.

Packer and Nofo money should get us one of Crighton, Staggs

Can you be consistent. Paying overs for those 2 is ok?

Packer & Noffo salary combined is overs for both these players a year.

I dont get this.
We have a 450K winger wanting 450K. Pay the man his money.

Dont go hiring a 30 year old winger on his way out to replace him, even if your paying Unders.
Dont go hiring Crighton (Steven) or Staggs for a Million to replace him.

Pay Nofo his due. You have a 27year old winger who has hit form. More importantly he Combines well with BJ and Luciano Leulia. DONT FIX WHATS WORKING!

We have no clear NR1, we have forwards that try but get beaten by better teams. We have the leagues nr3 tryscorer and everyone goes "lets replace that guy"! I dont get it.

Strange post?

I believe we have offered him a good contract but he is the one continuing to look else where. Nofo is OK but he does have some issues that he doesn’t seem to want to change, bit like Benji?

“Don’t fix what’s working” no offence but we came 11th, something needs to be fixed and they appear to be in the process of doing it.

Strange to comment on our forwards, who as yet, haven’t played a game together?

 

[twentyforty]

Time to move on from Nofa. He hasn't re-signed and the writing is on the wall.

In late November his manager made it known that he wanted more coin because it was (apparently) his last chance for a contract.

Which is rubbish, he's 27 and he has at least 2 NRL contracts left + an opportunity to play ESL at the back end of his career.

Since then all we've heard is dead air.

His managers attempt to lift his price was PR jargon and we were right to offer him what he's worth
- max $450-500K.

In my opinion that's even too much. One decent year versus five average years doesn't make you a quality top 5 NRL winger.

Nofa and his manager are playing games and we should stick to our guns and promote AJ /Talau or even Momo to the right wing if he decides to defect and sign up with the Eels or Bunnies.


Sorry for being ignorant, but when was that one good year again?

He won the Dally M winger last year, which I can't deny, however he hasn't proven to be a consistent strike winger across his entire career.

If he decides to leave us I feel confident we have the talent to fill his position.

Leck, I’m slowly losing faith in the value of awards as a means of evaluating performance. I guess I saw more of Nofa than I did of other wingers, but I don’t think that’s how he got the award is it? Didn’t he get the award because the DallyM judges gave him points compared to WT players performance? Our team performance was regrettable but Nofa’s highlight reel was a tribute to his skill and that of other players around him. A good winger competes for the high ball. Rowdy did a better job of that than Nofa. A good winger scores tries, which he did, 17 of them, but he let in 23, making him the worst defensive winger in the nrl . Jennings was so much better defensively than Nofa.
The DallM winger award carried no weight with Blues selectors.

 

[JayT]

I do agree the points system of Dally M actually makes it less effective as a award, he wasn't close to JAC for example, but it means he did something.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Nofo has had ONE good year

One very good year and some ordinary years mixed in his career agree he's a very good clubman but appears that someone is in his ear stroking his ego

But you make roster decisions based on projected performance and Noff does appear to be rising to an elite performer, what he did prior to last year is really a non factor.

Give him an incentive based contract
Improve your stats and receive an increase in your contract for years 2 and 3 on a new contract
Say we offer a $450'000 a year contract and he wants $500'000
The extra $50'000 can be based soley on improving his stats
I don't think giving an upgrade to Davids contract should be done based on his last years effort
We should give him a carrot for him to reach for
You want it
Earn it

 

[earl]

We have a 450K winger wanting 450K. Pay the man his money.

I have no problems with this. It's probably overs but you'd live with it for say 2 years. When I read about 650k per season or even 500k per season for 4 seasons it's concerning.

I'm happy for him to leave and I will still love the guy if other clubs are offering him more than that. It's like Aloiai leaving. He carried us up the middle last year but he wasn't worth the reported figures he was offered.

 

[earl]

Sorry but the I’m a loyal club man as long as you pay me what I want is tedious.

I don't want to see this anymore. Loyalty means signing early for a fair contract. If it's business then it's business and we just let them go.

The club is more important than any one player.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

If it’s true that Nofa is asking $650k then he’s priced himself out of WT. I hope he gets picked up by eels and gets a combo going with Moses. I think we paid too much for Nofa ($450k) at a time when we had all our stars leaving and now it’s biting us on the gluteus because everyone with a sentimental soul , including Nofa, thinks he’s worth an upgrade. During the last 3 years when he was on $450k , Fox was on $350k. I still think his true value to WT is $325k plus a top up with vets and car of about $80k - $100k. You never no if you don’t ask? Someone was desperate enough to buy fox at $650k. It’s going to be very interesting to see how that unfolds?

it is scary to think JAC was on 350k and Nofo 450k
right time right place for Nofo when our stars left he stayed
Shouldn't be able to win lotto twice
Joey L can leave end of 2022 ? imagine nofo money for Stagg or Stephen crighton

Key word: imagine.

cash is a reality if we use it for 2022 one hell of a war chest
Packer and Nofo money on Stagg or Crighton and a depth player signing


I agree that we pay 450k at the most and really it's the appropriate amount for Nofo. But Staggs and Crichton are much younger than him and have already had somewhat comparable career best years. Wests Tigers are not signing them on 450-500k and we just don't have the TPAs to do anything else. You can imagine but it will never ever happen.

Packer and Nofo money should get us one of Crighton, Staggs

Can you be consistent. Paying overs for those 2 is ok?

Packer & Noffo salary combined is overs for both these players a year.

I dont get this.
We have a 450K winger wanting 450K. Pay the man his money.

Dont go hiring a 30 year old winger on his way out to replace him, even if your paying Unders.
Dont go hiring Crighton (Steven) or Staggs for a Million to replace him.

Pay Nofo his due. You have a 27year old winger who has hit form. More importantly he Combines well with BJ and Luciano Leulia. DONT FIX WHATS WORKING!

We have no clear NR1, we have forwards that try but get beaten by better teams. We have the leagues nr3 tryscorer and everyone goes "lets replace that guy"! I dont get it.

it is not working though we haven't made the finals in years.
If we can get Crighton then we use nofo money and go for it. I'm sure Crighton will combine better with BJ and Luciano.