Everyone needs to chill out !

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Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

I was talking about the 2 points we didn't get, that we should have got

Every team loses games they should have won. That’s footy.

Not as consistently as we do, and therein lies the problem, the titans game no matter what you or anyone else say's, we should have won, and we bungled it as usual, that is why we have the longest run of missing the top 8.

You don’t know that. I’m guessing you don’t follow other teams as closely as your own, and I doubt you are basing it off any kind of stat.

In 2013 Eels finished last, one win and one loss vs us.
In 2014 Sharks finished last, we beat them twice, Cheer!
In 2015 Knights finished last, 8 wins all year, beating us twice
In 2016 Knights finished last, only winning one game all year. That was vs us.
In 2017 Knights finished last, played us once, for a WT win.
In 2018 Eels finished last, they won 6 games that year, played us twice for one win, one loss.
In 2019 Titans finished last, played us once, for a WT win.

So us vs last throughout the last eight years (including Titans last this year), we are 6 wins from 12 games since 2013.
That's not technically us vs the team coming last at the time, but us vs the team that came last at the end of the year.

Not great, not good, and I doubt whether anyone has worse over that period.
Hopefully it turns around though.

Can you do the team that finished 1st..
 
@Geo said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164230) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164227) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164206) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164187) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164161) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163763) said:
@jirskyr said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163715) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163558) said:
Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

I was talking about the 2 points we didn't get, that we should have got

Every team loses games they should have won. That’s footy.

Not as consistently as we do, and therein lies the problem, the titans game no matter what you or anyone else say's, we should have won, and we bungled it as usual, that is why we have the longest run of missing the top 8.

You don’t know that. I’m guessing you don’t follow other teams as closely as your own, and I doubt you are basing it off any kind of stat.

In 2013 Eels finished last, one win and one loss vs us.
In 2014 Sharks finished last, we beat them twice, Cheer!
In 2015 Knights finished last, 8 wins all year, beating us twice
In 2016 Knights finished last, only winning one game all year. That was vs us.
In 2017 Knights finished last, played us once, for a WT win.
In 2018 Eels finished last, they won 6 games that year, played us twice for one win, one loss.
In 2019 Titans finished last, played us once, for a WT win.

So us vs last throughout the last eight years (including Titans last this year), we are 6 wins from 12 games since 2013.
That's not technically us vs the team coming last at the time, but us vs the team that came last at the end of the year.

Not great, not good, and I doubt whether anyone has worse over that period.
Hopefully it turns around though.

Can you do the team that finished 1st..

Sure, you mean us vs first, or first vs last?
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164232) said:
@Geo said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164230) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164227) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164206) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164187) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164161) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163763) said:
@jirskyr said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163715) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163558) said:
Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

I was talking about the 2 points we didn't get, that we should have got

Every team loses games they should have won. That’s footy.

Not as consistently as we do, and therein lies the problem, the titans game no matter what you or anyone else say's, we should have won, and we bungled it as usual, that is why we have the longest run of missing the top 8.

You don’t know that. I’m guessing you don’t follow other teams as closely as your own, and I doubt you are basing it off any kind of stat.

In 2013 Eels finished last, one win and one loss vs us.
In 2014 Sharks finished last, we beat them twice, Cheer!
In 2015 Knights finished last, 8 wins all year, beating us twice
In 2016 Knights finished last, only winning one game all year. That was vs us.
In 2017 Knights finished last, played us once, for a WT win.
In 2018 Eels finished last, they won 6 games that year, played us twice for one win, one loss.
In 2019 Titans finished last, played us once, for a WT win.

So us vs last throughout the last eight years (including Titans last this year), we are 6 wins from 12 games since 2013.
That's not technically us vs the team coming last at the time, but us vs the team that came last at the end of the year.

Not great, not good, and I doubt whether anyone has worse over that period.
Hopefully it turns around though.

Can you do the team that finished 1st..

Sure, you mean us vs first, or first vs last?

Us..... who cares about other teams..
 
Us vs first since 2013

2013 Roosters, one game vs us, Roosters won
2014 Roosters, two games vs us, Roosters won both
2015 Roosters, two games vs us, Roosters won both
2016 Storm (Roosters 15th for a change?), two games vs us. Storm won both (one game by only a point)
2017 Storm, one game vs us, Storm won
2018 Storm, two games vs us, we won both! Plus we beat the Roosters.
2019 Storm one game vs us, Storm won, oh we lost by 2 pts

So 11 games us vs first, we won 2 (in 2018 under Voldemort), and we lost by two points or less in two of those games.

Depressing to see Roosters finish 1st or 2nd 6 times out of the last 7 years.
 
@Geo said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164233) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164232) said:
@Geo said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164230) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164227) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164206) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164187) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164161) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163763) said:
@jirskyr said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163715) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163558) said:
Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

I was talking about the 2 points we didn't get, that we should have got

Every team loses games they should have won. That’s footy.

Not as consistently as we do, and therein lies the problem, the titans game no matter what you or anyone else say's, we should have won, and we bungled it as usual, that is why we have the longest run of missing the top 8.

You don’t know that. I’m guessing you don’t follow other teams as closely as your own, and I doubt you are basing it off any kind of stat.

In 2013 Eels finished last, one win and one loss vs us.
In 2014 Sharks finished last, we beat them twice, Cheer!
In 2015 Knights finished last, 8 wins all year, beating us twice
In 2016 Knights finished last, only winning one game all year. That was vs us.
In 2017 Knights finished last, played us once, for a WT win.
In 2018 Eels finished last, they won 6 games that year, played us twice for one win, one loss.
In 2019 Titans finished last, played us once, for a WT win.

So us vs last throughout the last eight years (including Titans last this year), we are 6 wins from 12 games since 2013.
That's not technically us vs the team coming last at the time, but us vs the team that came last at the end of the year.

Not great, not good, and I doubt whether anyone has worse over that period.
Hopefully it turns around though.

Can you do the team that finished 1st..

Sure, you mean us vs first, or first vs last?

Us..... who cares about other teams..

Was you surprised by the results ?
 
Renouf: Seven finals teams decided with eighth a three-way battle
Author Steve Renouf
NRL.com Columnist
Thu 18 Jun 2020, 12:01 PM

After a quarter of the season, it has become clear that there are seven teams headed for the finals and the remaining battle is going to be for eighth position. From what I have seen so far eighth spot will be fought out by Wests Tigers, South Sydney and the Broncos.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164206) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164187) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1164161) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163763) said:
@jirskyr said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163715) said:
@851 said in [Everyone needs to chill out \!](/post/1163558) said:
Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

I was talking about the 2 points we didn't get, that we should have got

Every team loses games they should have won. That’s footy.

Not as consistently as we do, and therein lies the problem, the titans game no matter what you or anyone else say's, we should have won, and we bungled it as usual, that is why we have the longest run of missing the top 8.

You don’t know that. I’m guessing you don’t follow other teams as closely as your own, and I doubt you are basing it off any kind of stat.
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@851 definitely doesn't know that and hasn't been looking at the data said:
https://weststigersforum.com/topic/30982/wests-tigers-team-v-cowboys-rd-5/139

With the assumption that "being favourite' means "should have won".

@JD-Tiger Tiger looked at our strike rate against last place just a few posts ago.
 

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