Farah/Taylor Thread...

Walk, walk, walk.
It's about time aswell that club got down into the gutter with Farah and ayoub and used their type of tactics.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
Really? I noted the JT Lovers and Anti Farah conglomerate on this forum GNR. Both co exist on this forum although there is sure to be a cross over between the two. Besides GNR, I would have thought you had learnt from having your arse kicked last night on this forum.

This is just sad.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
From the Brisbane Times. If this is true, it is a very poor reflection on our club and no doubt will lead to further unsettled times.

While team chemistry is one of the reasons why Taylor is restricting his hooker's game time, it is also understood the Tigers are using it as **a ploy to tempt Farah to walk out on the final year of his contract** in 2017.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/nrl-robbie-farah-benched-as-future-at-wests-tigers-remains-unclear-20160608-gpelrr.html

It is beginning to look that way to me. Remember it is not just Taylor making the team selections now. The selections are being made by a committee. That dampens the notion of a feud between Farah and Taylor and yet Farah is not being selected. That has to have approval from above.

It will only lead to unsettled times if he goes into pout mode again.
 
As for the article, isn't this what Farah was told he'd be potentially in for if he stuck around? He had his chance to walk and go to a club where he was actually wanted. He's outgrown this team. JT might be clueless in a lot of facets of the game, but he's on the money with Farah.
 
@Blaze said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Blaze said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
Nice deflection but this is about coaching ability, not the players. Go re familiarise yourself with the pre match interview with Freddie last week. Just plain embarrassing and you get the sense of why JT could never inspire a team.

I'm familiar with the interview, there was nothing embarrassing about it. Your hatred and ability to deflect anything and everything onto Taylor without actual facts to support it apart from your point of view is beyond ridiculous, you don't like the guy, good for you. But don't try and tell us the inner workings of the team and its personalities and relationships. Simple fact is you don't know, nor does anyone else on here, and that's fine. But give it a rest mate, I struggle to find any post of yours that doesn't have a go at Taylor. That's fine, your point is made. Thanks for that. Same as I THINK Farah is the one upsetting the team harmony, difference is I don't write 20 odd posts about it on every thread everyday… Enjoy your night.[/quote
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you just wrote another one :smiley: and it didn't have a single fact to back that up

Most people's problems with Taylor are there in front of you on the field , and in Pressos on almost any game day, and in a lot of his interviews. And selections before the ( mythical or not) Bucketts is alleged to have joined him in selections.

Whereas most of the comments about Farah are to do with things that no one would really know for sure about unless they were there. This last eruption seems to have come from a comment Robbie made in answer to a question that he was asked.
When asked how did he feel about the threat to be dropped, He answered that it hurt, and he'd never forget it.
To me, that's a perfectly normal answer for any one to give .
To my knowledge ( correct me if I'm wrong). he never said anything about JT, and I and a lot of people took it as meaning that he was talking about The feelings itself. He didn't bag JT for doing it, ( no matter what he thought) .
Reports , supposedly from someone who seems to have more info than you or me , say that Farah had no problem with Taylor, and was training hard and there was no problems

His ducks and Drakes with the hooker position this week have set the media off again.
I was a supporter of Taylor coming here at the start, , not just because of Potter, but because I genuinely thought that he would do a good job here . but instead I've seem no evidence that he's improved any thing here except maybe our injuries situation, it seemed that that was the case early , but I don't have any figures to really back that up . Our Halves have gone backwards, and seems to not know how to help them.
And it seems that he is prepared to disrupt the club at any cost to try again to force
Farah out.

Still no facts tho are there… What has Taylor said about Farah? Keeping in mind it was another coach who has since been released that actually said the infamous reserve grade comment. Our team hasn't gone backwards, we are fighting mostly everyday with a team full of potential simply because we can't afford anyone and this is what we have got. It's not as if the coach has his perfect team as was the same with potter, we are trying hard to get thru this cap mess AND play competitively, unfortunately, you can't have both. This is the hard times, and will only get better when Farah leaves, simply to free up money... I really don't care for Farah or Taylor to be honest, I'm just prepared to stick with crap for the moment while we get our house back in order. Just sick of the bashing of the coach and Farah for that matter, the media love you guys so they keep serving it up... Every week!! It's getting boring...

As I said in the previous post, the facts are there about JT and are there on the field Pressos etc he's a fool when it comes to selections , man management, getting a team up for a game on a fegular basis and facing reality, he's still saying in the SMH that last week we were good and the halves were good, 13-7
 
@851 said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
It's amazing when you have a coach such as Bennett who can coach, has excellent communication skills and is respected.

Those brown paper bags sure buy you a lot of respect!!

Tevita Pangai rang Bennett because he wanted to play under him!

Is he any relation to David Pangai who played for Balmain and WTs under 20s and went to NQ?

I think he is Mosese brother who played for us around 2009, from memory there are quite a few brothers.

Thanks. Another very good prospect.
 
@Flippedy said:
Steve Folkes is the only bloke who could fix this lot, imo. Management need to go all out to get him back, as head coach this time… but they won't.

I'm beginning to think that our club enjoys the status quo of mediocrity and being a basket case with all the instability, infighting and innuendo surrounding it all the time. I don't think they would know how to handle it if our team and the club, as a whole, were winners more than losers!

I've always liked Folks as a coach, too Flip. But who in their right mind would leave the Jillaroos. Those gutsy, courageous and lovely champions, could teach our boys a thing or two about how this game should be played, week in week out. :wink: Go Girls!
 
Jason Taylor in fight, not with Robbie Farah but to save career

The Australian|
12:00AM June 9, 2016|
Brent Read
Senior sports writer

Jason Taylor is embroiled in a fight. Not with Robbie Farah, but to save his career. If he gets speared by the Wests Tigers at the end of the season, as many have predicted, he may be damaged goods as far as head coaching goes in the NRL. Chances don’t come around that often. Even less if you’ve already been shown the door a couple of times. That’s why Taylor needs to think selfishly right now. If the Tigers coach believes his club stands a better chance of winning without Farah in the starting line-up, he needs to make the difficult call and send the NSW hooker packing.

Taylor hedged his bets when asked about Farah following his side’s loss to the Sydney Roosters on Sunday afternoon. His cryptic response fuelled suggestions of a fresh rift between coach and star player, although those claims have been denied by all and sundry, including Farah himself. Farah’s manager, Sam Ayoub, has also denied his client plans to leave at the end of the season, dismissing persistent reports linking the Blues rake with English powerhouse Leeds. Clearly though, all is not well. Last year, Taylor’s decision to give Farah the choice between leaving or playing reserve grade backfired badly. His authority was undermined and his future was placed in jeopardy. He handled it badly. Taylor eventually backed down, but once again he faces a career-defining decision. The club is on the brink. They are in danger of losing touch with the top eight, likely the very minimum Taylor needs to keep his job.

Farah, who picked at last year’s scab in an article in the lead-up to the opening State of Origin game, appears to be in Taylor’s sights but the club has other issues beyond its biggest name. Halves Mitchell Moses and Luke Brooks have committed their futures to the Tigers but Taylor needs them to start firing on the field. Brooks was ordinary in the loss to the Roosters. Once touted as a future NSW halfback, he was comprehensively outplayed by Roosters counterpart Jackson Hastings. He has played more than 50 games in the NRL. He needs to be better. He needs to start controlling games rather than throwing them away.

One of the justifications given for the Tigers’ success in Farah’s absence is that he stifles the halves. But they were given a free rein last weekend and couldn’t get the job done. That loss, in the end, has made Taylor’s decision easier. Had the club beaten the Roosters, it would have been a fifth win in six games this season without Farah. That would have placed inordinate pressure on the coach to overlook the Tigers stalwart. Justifying the decision would have been much easier following a win. A loss makes it that much harder. Still, it would be no surprise if Taylor demotes Farah to the interchange bench — or out of the side — anyway. If he does, he needs to have a flak jacket at the ready.

Former Tigers forward Bryce Gibbs was among those to question Taylor’s sanity following the defeat to the Roosters, when the coach opted to “rest” his star hooker, that decision made all the more surprising given the knee injury that sidelined Matt Ballin.

Ultimately, Taylor will live and die by his call. It’s the sort of decision that can make or break a coaching career. If the club wins in Farah’s absence, Taylor will be vindicated. If they lose, he will be out of a job. At least he will have perished on his terms.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
As I said in the previous post, the facts are there about JT and are there on the field Pressos etc he's a fool when it comes to selections , man management, getting a team up for a game on a fegular basis and facing reality, he's still saying in the SMH that last week we were good and the halves were good, 13-7

Good man management is keeping positive & backing players in the media.
 
@Newtown said:
Former Tigers forward Bryce Gibbs was among those to question Taylor’s sanity following the defeat to the Roosters, when the coach opted to “rest” his star hooker, that decision made all the more surprising given the knee injury that sidelined Matt Ballin

I saw this. For someone who has a history of spitting in female police officers faces and punching cabbies when they try and stop him from skipping a fare, I'd say its a bit rich for old Bryce to question somebody else's sanity.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Newtown said:
Former Tigers forward Bryce Gibbs was among those to question Taylor’s sanity following the defeat to the Roosters, when the coach opted to “rest” his star hooker, that decision made all the more surprising given the knee injury that sidelined Matt Ballin

I saw this. For someone who has a history of spitting in female police officers faces and punching cabbies when they try and stop him from skipping a fare, I'd say its a bit rich for old Bryce to question somebody else's sanity.

Or integrity.
 
Does anyone know for sure the S&C team didn't rule him out and made the call to rest him ??

He played 80 minutes , Woods played maybe 45-50 minutes at the most

That was a big game for us in the scheme of things , and Taylor will need results by seasons end , he can't take the risk of dropping games because his ego is bent out of shape (if it actually is )
 
Jason Taylor told the media this morning that based on the overall talent his team has, Wests Tigers should not be in 14th position on the premiership ladder, but much higher. He stated that he is prepared to make the hard decisions to ensure the team reaches a position higher on the ladder in line with their talent. He didn't state what these hard decisions would be? Is resignation amongst them?
 
@happy tiger said:
Does anyone know for sure the S&C team didn't rule him out and made the call to rest him ??

He played 80 minutes , Woods played maybe 45-50 minutes at the most

That was a big game for us in the scheme of things , and Taylor will need results by seasons end , he can't take the risk of dropping games because his ego is bent out of shape (if it actually is )

That's the thing. Was Robbie rested after origin due to a short turnaround, having played a hard rep game with no match fittness, or did Taylor use the opportunity to drop Farah, with the intention of running Ballin the rest of the season?

Thanks to Ballin's knee blowout, only Taylor really knows.

For what little my opinion's worth, I don't think Farah was fit to play 80 minutes of origin. I think Daley made the wrong call by selecting him straight off injury and I was not at all surprised when Farah was left out of the Roosters game.
 
Note the change in language, one word being the key change:

@NT Tiger said:
While team chemistry is one of the reasons why Taylor is restricting his hooker's game time, it is also understood the **Tigers** are using it as a ploy to tempt Farah to walk out on the final year of his contract in 2017.

Previously it would have read "Taylor", but not anymore….
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
Note the change in language, one word being the key change:

@NT Tiger said:
While team chemistry is one of the reasons why Taylor is restricting his hooker's game time, it is also understood the **Tigers** are using it as a ploy to tempt Farah to walk out on the final year of his contract in 2017.

Previously it would have read "Taylor", but not anymore….

It should go without saying that the higher ups would like him to move on. If they didn't, they wouldn't have allowed him the chance to leave last yr. The last 8 months would not have happened.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
Note the change in language, one word being the key change:

@NT Tiger said:
While team chemistry is one of the reasons why Taylor is restricting his hooker's game time, it is also understood the **Tigers** are using it as a ploy to tempt Farah to walk out on the final year of his contract in 2017.

Previously it would have read "Taylor", but not anymore….

It is a dumb ploy to use on him. He has a big ego and is stubborn as a mule. If he feels he is being pushed out then his pride will cause him to push back and dig in. If they want him to go they are going to need to come up with a way to do it that involves massaging his ego. He's not exactly a hard personality type to manipulate.
 
@Newtown said:
Jason Taylor told the media this morning that based on the overall talent his team has, Wests Tigers should not be in 14th position on the premiership ladder, but much higher. He stated that he is prepared to make the hard decisions to ensure the team reaches a position higher on the ladder in line with their talent. He didn't state what these hard decisions would be? Is resignation amongst them?

I completely agree with Taylor. We are an underperforming team at this point. That article is spot on as well. Taylor should be under pressure. He hasn't handled this team well at all.

The thing that really annoys me about Taylor is that Robbie is one of our best players but he has created this drama when there was no need. Yes Robbie is overpaid for what he offers us but that wasn't an issue for Taylor to deal with. He should just choose the best possible team and then create a winning game plan for that team. The team then has to execute that game plan. I don't think Taylor has done that so far.
 
That Brent Read article was a pretty fair summation of the situation IMO.

@happy tiger said:
Does anyone know for sure the S&C team didn't rule him out and made the call to rest him ??

No idea happy - it's definitely a possibility though, and would make sense given the head knock.
I just don't understand why JT didn't bring up this factor rather than emphasising the 'best of the team' stuff.
I know the media are merciless slugs, but the way JT reacted in that presser was like waving a red reg to a bull.

Plus, there's also the likelihood that we'll be starting Halatau instead of Farah tonight….
 
Steve, I agree with what you are saying. Word is that the halves and dummy half's games don't fit together. Taylor recognised that and wanted to select the best possible team for the game plans but the dummy half spat the dummy. The rest is…........what keeps this forum spinning.
 
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