He's what 35? Not really surprising he's patchy especially come mid-season. Personally I think he's been pretty good value overall but people will create their own narrative to suit their agenda.
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@Yossarian said in [Farah](/post/1037296) said:He's what 35? Not really surprising he's patchy especially come mid-season. Personally I think he's been pretty good value overall but people will create their own narrative to suit their agenda.
@ElleryHanley said in [Farah](/post/1037301) said:@Yossarian said in [Farah](/post/1037296) said:He's what 35? Not really surprising he's patchy especially come mid-season. Personally I think he's been pretty good value overall but people will create their own narrative to suit their agenda.
Farah said when he came back he would sit out some weeks and that he would not interfere with the development of the younger players.
Yet he plays every week, dominates the ball and the team.
There is no 'agenda' mate and that is too easy a claim to hide behind.
There is 'reality' and that is we are somehow allowing a washed up 35 yo to dominate the team.
His best years were well over half a decade ago. I like him, he is a real Tiger. But reality is reality. A team with Farah, and also Benji, dominating simply won't make the finals.
They have not led us to a finals appearance in almost a decade. Anywhere else that is called failure, but for us we ask for 'one more year' of it repeatedly.
We need a cultural change mate. That simple.
@Yossarian said in [Farah](/post/1037321) said:@ElleryHanley said in [Farah](/post/1037301) said:@Yossarian said in [Farah](/post/1037296) said:He's what 35? Not really surprising he's patchy especially come mid-season. Personally I think he's been pretty good value overall but people will create their own narrative to suit their agenda.
Farah said when he came back he would sit out some weeks and that he would not interfere with the development of the younger players.
Yet he plays every week, dominates the ball and the team.
There is no 'agenda' mate and that is too easy a claim to hide behind.
There is 'reality' and that is we are somehow allowing a washed up 35 yo to dominate the team.
His best years were well over half a decade ago. I like him, he is a real Tiger. But reality is reality. A team with Farah, and also Benji, dominating simply won't make the finals.
They have not led us to a finals appearance in almost a decade. Anywhere else that is called failure, but for us we ask for 'one more year' of it repeatedly.
We need a cultural change mate. That simple.
Right so he overrules Madge every week to be picked? It's fine to say he shouldn't be getting selected but this continual blame shifting is frankly ridiculous. The "agenda" is the tendency for his detractors to blame Farah for getting picked. He's playing the same game he's played since 2003. It's what he does, It's what won him a premiership and rep jumpers.
To be clear I'm not saying he should play next year or even the amount of games he has this year. I myself have expressed my concern and over reliance on mid-30s players. The point is, blaming Farah for all this is not really fair.
@cktiger said in [Farah](/post/1037201) said:@Harvey said in [Farah](/post/1037189) said:Liddle spent most of his time on the field standing around. When he went to dummy half, Farah shoved him aside, but then all of a sudden we had centres at dummy half because Robbie decided he was playing 5/8 that play (or could not get across the field). That was one of the most selfish performances I have ever seen.
Admittedly there were some good long kicks, but this is again Robbie deciding when he will kick rather than allowing the halves to kick.
**Brooks will never have an opportunity to control a game as long as Robbie is dummy half.** Liddle should have been playing 40-50 minutes for the last month with Robbie playing the 1st and last 15-20 of a game.
He had plenty of time when Farah wasn't here to prove his worth.... can't recall him controlling too many games then.
He hasn't got it in him... better to move him to 5/8 and get a real half.
@ElleryHanley said in [Farah](/post/1037333) said:@Yossarian said in [Farah](/post/1037321) said:@ElleryHanley said in [Farah](/post/1037301) said:@Yossarian said in [Farah](/post/1037296) said:He's what 35? Not really surprising he's patchy especially come mid-season. Personally I think he's been pretty good value overall but people will create their own narrative to suit their agenda.
Farah said when he came back he would sit out some weeks and that he would not interfere with the development of the younger players.
Yet he plays every week, dominates the ball and the team.
There is no 'agenda' mate and that is too easy a claim to hide behind.
There is 'reality' and that is we are somehow allowing a washed up 35 yo to dominate the team.
His best years were well over half a decade ago. I like him, he is a real Tiger. But reality is reality. A team with Farah, and also Benji, dominating simply won't make the finals.
They have not led us to a finals appearance in almost a decade. Anywhere else that is called failure, but for us we ask for 'one more year' of it repeatedly.
We need a cultural change mate. That simple.
Right so he overrules Madge every week to be picked? It's fine to say he shouldn't be getting selected but this continual blame shifting is frankly ridiculous. The "agenda" is the tendency for his detractors to blame Farah for getting picked. He's playing the same game he's played since 2003. It's what he does, It's what won him a premiership and rep jumpers.
To be clear I'm not saying he should play next year or even the amount of games he has this year. I myself have expressed my concern and over reliance on mid-30s players. The point is, blaming Farah for all this is not really fair.
Okay, that is fair enough.
And, yes, it is the responsibility of the coach to fix it.
But we all saw how that ended last time a coach tried to limit his role. At some point Robbie needs to step back and limit his own role. What happened to mentoring Liddle? Pushing him out of the road to get to dummy half is not mentoring.
Only times Brooks has got good, clean, fast ball all season have been from Liddle.
@cktiger said in [Farah](/post/1037360) said:@ElleryHanley said in [Farah](/post/1037333) said:@Yossarian said in [Farah](/post/1037321) said:@ElleryHanley said in [Farah](/post/1037301) said:@Yossarian said in [Farah](/post/1037296) said:He's what 35? Not really surprising he's patchy especially come mid-season. Personally I think he's been pretty good value overall but people will create their own narrative to suit their agenda.
Farah said when he came back he would sit out some weeks and that he would not interfere with the development of the younger players.
Yet he plays every week, dominates the ball and the team.
There is no 'agenda' mate and that is too easy a claim to hide behind.
There is 'reality' and that is we are somehow allowing a washed up 35 yo to dominate the team.
His best years were well over half a decade ago. I like him, he is a real Tiger. But reality is reality. A team with Farah, and also Benji, dominating simply won't make the finals.
They have not led us to a finals appearance in almost a decade. Anywhere else that is called failure, but for us we ask for 'one more year' of it repeatedly.
We need a cultural change mate. That simple.
Right so he overrules Madge every week to be picked? It's fine to say he shouldn't be getting selected but this continual blame shifting is frankly ridiculous. The "agenda" is the tendency for his detractors to blame Farah for getting picked. He's playing the same game he's played since 2003. It's what he does, It's what won him a premiership and rep jumpers.
To be clear I'm not saying he should play next year or even the amount of games he has this year. I myself have expressed my concern and over reliance on mid-30s players. The point is, blaming Farah for all this is not really fair.
Okay, that is fair enough.
And, yes, it is the responsibility of the coach to fix it.
But we all saw how that ended last time a coach tried to limit his role. At some point Robbie needs to step back and limit his own role. What happened to mentoring Liddle? Pushing him out of the road to get to dummy half is not mentoring.
Only times Brooks has got good, clean, fast ball all season have been from Liddle.
Well... that’s just rubbish.
Last time a coach limited his role he left.
As for pushing Liddle out of the road... are you aware of the coaches instructions or how he wanted them to play?
And all the fast , clean balls Liddle throws mean nothing if they hit the ground.
I like Liddle and it has been mentioned plenty of times how Farah is mentoring him.... his time isn’t far off.
@Harvey said in [Farah](/post/1037371) said:@cktiger What was the ratio of Liddles passes hitting the ground vs Farah's passes being over the head of the receiver?
@ElleryHanley said in [Farah](/post/1037376) said:@Harvey said in [Farah](/post/1037371) said:@cktiger What was the ratio of Liddles passes hitting the ground vs Farah's passes being over the head of the receiver?
On the season it is about Liddle 3 bad passes, Robbie about 50 too high, 200 too slow'.
@cktiger said in [Farah](/post/1037408) said:@ElleryHanley said in [Farah](/post/1037376) said:@Harvey said in [Farah](/post/1037371) said:@cktiger What was the ratio of Liddles passes hitting the ground vs Farah's passes being over the head of the receiver?
On the season it is about Liddle 3 bad passes, Robbie about 50 too high, 200 too slow'.
I suppose that’s why Liddle is playing second fiddle then?
@CTigersWinComp said in [Farah](/post/1037537) said:@The_Patriot it is very funny, round 1 and 2 Farah was a born again tiger rejuvenated playing like 10 years ago. man of the match in both games i think. maybe he felt his done his part lol thats enough, but footy is about form you keep picking slow running players and slow reacting players and out of form players, ofcause 1/ the players have nothing to play for they played crap last week and still get picked in first grade this week 2/ you simply do not win games like that and knowing your team mates is not in it for you 100% like the 05 tigers smallest pack best team backing team mates every play