Four Nations

@fibrodreaming said:
Happy, contrary to your assertion, I did read the whole thread.

The relevant section relates to your observation: “I am yet to see a modern day footballer at the end of their career when asked what their favourite memory or career highlight was (if they have won a premiership ) say that winning a premiership isn't the highlight”. You then infer from this that: “Premierships are more important than rep honours to players”.

It seems to me that your conclusion, while it may be true, does not follow from your premise. Based on your account, the players were not asked the direct question about GFs verses rep honours, and they did not say that winning GFs was more important than rep honours. That’s an inference on your part.

You may well be right however, but it's an assumption.

In that case they would answer what was their career highlight they would say their SOO debut , winning their first SOO series , or their selection and debut for Australia

Premierships mean so much to players because it takes so much time and effort

I'm not a Gallen fan , but look at him , how many seasons in Grade did it take him to win one

Champion players get representative honours , but they aren't guaranteed premierships because they are champion players
 
Meninga names Roos side for clash with Scotland..

The full team will line up as:
1\. Matt Moylan
2\. Josh Mansour
3\. Justin O'Neill
4\. Josh Dugan
5\. Blake Ferguson
6\. James Maloney
7\. Cooper Cronk
8\. Aaron Woods
9\. Cameron Smith (capt.)
10\. David Klemmer
11\. Sam Thaiday
12\. Tyson Frizell
13\. Jake Trbojevic
Interchange:
14\. Jake Friend
15\. Shannon Boyd
16\. Trent Merrin
17\. Michael Morgan
18\. Valentine Holmes
19\. Boyd Cordner

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2016/10/26/kangaroos_name_team_.html
 
You can tell they are playing a nuffie nation, the wingers and centres (apart from perhaps Mansour) are as bad as I can ever remember getting the privelidge of playing for Australia. The Kiwis will be hoping they stick with that combo for the final I'd bet.
 
@Fade To Black said:
You can tell they are playing a nuffie nation, the wingers and centres (apart from perhaps Mansour) are as bad as I can ever remember getting the privelidge of playing for Australia. The Kiwis will be hoping they stick with that combo for the final I'd bet.

I'd take Dugan at the WT's as a centre in a heartbeat and Nielsen is miles ahead of anything we currently have
 
@happy tiger said:
@Fade To Black said:
You can tell they are playing a nuffie nation, the wingers and centres (apart from perhaps Mansour) are as bad as I can ever remember getting the privelidge of playing for Australia. The Kiwis will be hoping they stick with that combo for the final I'd bet.

I'd take Dugan at the WT's as a centre in a heartbeat and Nielsen is miles ahead of anything we currently have

When did Nielsen change his name to O'Neill… 😕

Late call up...?
 
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
@Fade To Black said:
You can tell they are playing a nuffie nation, the wingers and centres (apart from perhaps Mansour) are as bad as I can ever remember getting the privelidge of playing for Australia. The Kiwis will be hoping they stick with that combo for the final I'd bet.

I'd take Dugan at the WT's as a centre in a heartbeat and O'Neill
is miles ahead of anything we currently have

When did O'Neill change his name to Neilsen 😕

Late call up…?

What are you talking about now :crazy …......
 
Might want to edit your OP ..it still says Neilsen…

Long day...
 
@happy tiger said:
@Fade To Black said:
You can tell they are playing a nuffie nation, the wingers and centres (apart from perhaps Mansour) are as bad as I can ever remember getting the privelidge of playing for Australia. The Kiwis will be hoping they stick with that combo for the final I'd bet.

I'd take Dugan at the WT's as a centre in a heartbeat and Nielsen is miles ahead of anything we currently have

Nielson is crap, he couldn't get a game for St George when he was with them. I'm happy WT have Simona compared to him.
As far as O'niell goes…..the bloke who is actually playing for Australia this weekend......he is pretty bloody ordinary IMO.
Dugan isn't a centre's backside. Good fullback yes, in the centre's he is substandard.
 
Have you guys heard about the 60 test reward?

How it works is, if you play 30 tests you will get a bronze kangaroo on your sleeve
If you play 40 tests for Australia then you get a silver kangaroo on your sleeve.
If you play 50 tests for Australia then you will get a gold kangaroo on your sleeve

If you play 60 tests for Australia then you get a personalised purple jersey. Different from the rest of the team. The purple is a mixture of maroon and blue.
 
I understand it's good to give everyone a run on tour, but we should alway pick the best team to represent our country each and every time.

Fire up boys!
 
@Tiger Watto said:
I understand it's good to give everyone a run on tour, but we should alway pick the best team to represent our country each and every time.

Fire up boys!

That sounds fine Watto , but how would of any NSW's player bar Gallen have won a Test jersey in the last 12 years ….... :laughing:
 
@Tiger Watto said:
I understand it's good to give everyone a run on tour, but we should alway pick the best team to represent our country each and every time.

Fire up boys!

Yep it should always be the best 17 available who play in the tests. If you want everyone to have a run, organise tour games.
 
@WestsBenTigers said:
Have you guys heard about the 60 test reward?

How it works is, if you play 30 tests you will get a bronze kangaroo on your sleeve
If you play 40 tests for Australia then you get a silver kangaroo on your sleeve.
If you play 50 tests for Australia then you will get a gold kangaroo on your sleeve

If you play 60 tests for Australia then you get a personalised purple jersey. Different from the rest of the team. The purple is a mixture of maroon and blue.

What is this?
 
@stryker said:
@WestsBenTigers said:
Have you guys heard about the 60 test reward?

How it works is, if you play 30 tests you will get a bronze kangaroo on your sleeve
If you play 40 tests for Australia then you get a silver kangaroo on your sleeve.
If you play 50 tests for Australia then you will get a gold kangaroo on your sleeve

If you play 60 tests for Australia then you get a personalised purple jersey. Different from the rest of the team. The purple is a mixture of maroon and blue.

What is this?

Saw it the other day

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/kangaroos/cameron-smith-could-be-first-kangaroos-player-to-earn-special-commemorative-jersey/news-story/17dbfa7e997c275f67f027747c7a4c93

WHEN Mal Meninga was appointed as Test coach nearly 12 months ago — he embarked on a journey to restore and uphold the traditions of what it means to represent the Kangaroos jersey.

Having represented his country on 46 occasions, including four successful Kangaroo tours to the UK — he was always the best candidate for that job.

With the backing of the NRL, including chairman John Grant, Mal has already lifted the profile and brand of the Kangaroos.

He’s backed up his words with actions, starting with a scheme to get players bursting with pride to throw on a green and gold jersey.

THE JERSEY SCHEME

Mal has an acute understanding of the importance of milestones and achievements of the players (past and present) and he has already created some traditions that have elevated the honour of making the Test team.

This was demonstrated perfectly when he decided to move the annual Kangaroos reunion back a week so the former players and current players could assemble for lunch to help launch the Four Nations tournament.
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At this event, the former players who have achieved significant milestones such as Darren Lockyer — the Kangaroos games record holder with 59 — were presented with special jumpers.

With each milestone reached in the green and gold jersey, there is now a special Kangaroos chevron embroidered on the sleeve to mark its significance.
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Reaching 20 games will be marked by a white kangaroo, 30 is marked by bronze, 40 is marked by silver, and 50 is marked by gold.

A special purple jumper (a combination of NSW blue and Queensland maroon) will be custom made for anyone who plays 60 games, with skipper Cameron Smith, currently sitting on 45 Tests, the most likely of today’s players to be the first to hit that mark.

OTHER PRESTIGE GESTURES

In addition to the jersey initiative, Mal got the current players at the lunch to present all the past players at the event with a special Kangaroos book which recognises the history and achievements of the Kangaroos, their personal number and their contribution to the Test team.

In another fitting tribute, Darren Lockyer was invited into the team dinner (prior to the last Test) to present Sam Thaiday with his special jumper to recognise his 30th Test appearance — which sits proudly alongside his 30th Origin jumper.

Locky also presented the debutants with their jumpers and he spoke to the team about his first Test appearance and the level of dedication it takes to play at the highest level and what the expectations were.

THE MILESTONE MEN

In other remarkable milestones, Smith is set to play his 46th Test this week against Scotland — which will equal Mal’s record — and he has set his sights on playing at least 50 Tests, potentially culminating in the World Cup on home soil in 2017.

Smith will be playing alongside his Storm teammate and 2016 Dally M Medallist Cooper Cronk, who will play his 30th Test this week, which is an unbelievable achievement.

Greg Inglis, who was man of the match against the Kiwis, has now played 36 Tests and shows no signs of slowing down, nor does Johnathan Thurston who is set to play his 35th Test against the Kiwis on November 5.

His Cowboys and Queensland teammate Matt Scott will play his 20th game on the same night as Darius Boyd, who has an unbeaten record in a Test Jumper.

The tradition will continue this week when James Maloney, Jake Trbojevic, Jake Friend, Matt Moylan and Justin O’Neill make their debuts against Scotland at Hull on Friday night (UK time).

HOW IT TRANSLATES TO PERFORMANCE

While Mal has made some significant changes to the Kangaroos culture away from the field, he has already improved the performance on it.

His first two Tests at the helm have been two strong wins over the world number one ranked Kiwis.

Having worked alongside Mal with Queensland for a number of years, he has a great knack of bringing representative teams together quickly and gets them to buy into the values and behaviours that are required to play at the elite level.

He has the unique ability to identify talent and to see what is required for the team now and what is required in the future.

There can be no better example of this than the introduction of Valentine Holmes who was overlooked by Queensland for a minor off-field issue and brought into the Test team on the back of his outstanding year with the Sharks.

His debut against the Kiwis was of the highest order and he looks set for a long and distinguished career in the green and gold jumper.
 
Quality journalism: **Greg Inglis, who was man of the match against the Kiwis, has now played 36 Tests and shows no signs of slowing down** :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
 
Just realised Nine have the rights to the Four Nations ..not even replayed on Fox…boooo

Australia v Scotland will be on Gem 6:00am Saturday (NSW) that's 5:00am for our friends in the backward State (QLD)..
 
@Geo. said:
Just realised Nine have the rights to the Four Nations ..not even replayed on Fox…boooo

Australia v Scotland will be on Gem 6:00am Saturday (NSW) that's 5:00am for our friends in the backward State (QLD)..

That's when the big hand is pointing to the 12 and the little hand to the 5\. :smiley:
 
SCHEDULE (times in AEDT)
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Saturday, October 29 (6am): Australia v Scotland, KC Lightstream Stadium, Hull
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Sunday, October 30 (12:30am): England v New Zealand, The John Smith’s Stadium, Huddersfield
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Sunday, November 6 (4:30am): England v Scotland, Ricoh Arena, Coventry
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Sunday, November 6 (7am): New Zealand v Australia, Ricoh Arena, Coventry
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Saturday, November 12 (7am): New Zealand v Scotland, The Zebra Claims Stadium, Workington
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Monday, November 14 (1am): England v Australia, London Stadium, Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park, London
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Monday, November 21 (1:30am): Final, Anfield, Liverpool.
 

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