Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go

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@pawsandclaws1 said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156311) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156216) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1155993) said:
@gallagher said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1155979) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1155973) said:
Surely everyone realises there's zero chance of any more money being spent on stadiums in the current climate? Nrl has zero bargaining power. The government has other priorities for the foreseeable future, and rightfully so!

Wasnt there talk from the govt about a $3bill infrastructure program? Any type of construction would mean jobs.

Keynesian economics - create demand in the economy through expansionary fiscal policy eg giving the NSW nurses, doctors, paramedics a pay rise will see that money spent into the economy creating demand and new jobs in say the retail and other sectors.


The problem for the next period in the economy is unemployment as people lose their jobs and businesses due to the lockdowns. The economy needs jobs, not hand outs. Those doctors nurses etc already have jobs. Every cent needs to go into new jobs.

Wage increases will result in more money into the economy which creates demand and jobs especially in retail. The 2.5% increases for nurses, paramedics and doctors are offset by productivity increases or efficiency dividends so they are not handouts. The NSW Govt should have stopped the increases for fat cat public servants. Did you know the NSW Police Commissioner receives nearly twice the salary of the NY Police Commissioner? I find that obscene.


I dont disagree with any of that, and there is no question that nurses and paramedics are worth more than they get. But it would not achieve the IMMEDIATE requirement which is jobs NOW.

Paying nurses etc as you say would put more $$ into the economy and ultimately result in more jobs, but it has two big problems. Firstly it is inefficient in that for every dollar paid, you dont get a return. THere is no control over what happens to a wage increase. The nurse receiving it could put it in Super, pay off debt, increase mortgage or save the money, none of that money reaches the wider economy and does not result in jobs. Secondly, there is a significant time lag. Even if the nurse spends the increase it take time to convert into demand for jobs.

Alternatively, if the Govt spends it on infrastructure spending, it is immediate and completely efficient in that the increase in jobs starts immediately and every dollar spent is used in a new job.

Im not saying increasing nurses wages is a bad idea, it just wont achieve what we need right now and I assume with things so tight we need maximum bang for buck.
 
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This would be ideal IMO
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156533) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156311) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156216) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1155993) said:
@gallagher said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1155979) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1155973) said:
Surely everyone realises there's zero chance of any more money being spent on stadiums in the current climate? Nrl has zero bargaining power. The government has other priorities for the foreseeable future, and rightfully so!

Wasnt there talk from the govt about a $3bill infrastructure program? Any type of construction would mean jobs.

Keynesian economics - create demand in the economy through expansionary fiscal policy eg giving the NSW nurses, doctors, paramedics a pay rise will see that money spent into the economy creating demand and new jobs in say the retail and other sectors.


The problem for the next period in the economy is unemployment as people lose their jobs and businesses due to the lockdowns. The economy needs jobs, not hand outs. Those doctors nurses etc already have jobs. Every cent needs to go into new jobs.

Wage increases will result in more money into the economy which creates demand and jobs especially in retail. The 2.5% increases for nurses, paramedics and doctors are offset by productivity increases or efficiency dividends so they are not handouts. The NSW Govt should have stopped the increases for fat cat public servants. Did you know the NSW Police Commissioner receives nearly twice the salary of the NY Police Commissioner? I find that obscene.


I dont disagree with any of that, and there is no question that nurses and paramedics are worth more than they get. But it would not achieve the IMMEDIATE requirement which is jobs NOW.

Paying nurses etc as you say would put more $$ into the economy and ultimately result in more jobs, but it has two big problems. Firstly it is inefficient in that for every dollar paid, you dont get a return. THere is no control over what happens to a wage increase. The nurse receiving it could put it in Super, pay off debt, increase mortgage or save the money, none of that money reaches the wider economy and does not result in jobs. Secondly, there is a significant time lag. Even if the nurse spends the increase it take time to convert into demand for jobs.

Alternatively, if the Govt spends it on infrastructure spending, it is immediate and completely efficient in that the increase in jobs starts immediately and every dollar spent is used in a new job.

Im not saying increasing nurses wages is a bad idea, it just wont achieve what we need right now and I assume with things so tight we need maximum bang for buck.

Infrastructure spending is good but the so called trickle down theory has not worked. We need to ensure consumers get the $ immediately especially low to mid income earners who are more likely to spend their money which will impact businesses' bottom lines.
 
@gallagher said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156847) said:
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This would be ideal IMO

For the people who live there it would be fine,for the majority of supporters not so good as it is not centrally located for our large supporter base
 
@hammertime said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156345) said:
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156205) said:
The Sharks have just made a statement that they will
not be playing anywhere but Shark park when completed .. will not be waiting for the fence sitters at the Tigers making any statement any time soon !

Having a multi stadium strategy isn't "fence sitting". It's decisive, just not in the direction that some might like.

So when from next week crowds could be let in to corporate areas ... Campbelltown can only have 150 supporters as the facility is so small ..yep again the club just does not get it ! a facility that just does not fit the requirements of the club or it’s sponsor or supporters.
 
@jadtiger said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156859) said:
@gallagher said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156847) said:
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This would be ideal IMO

For the people who live there it would be fine,for the majority of supporters not so good as it is not centrally located for our large supporter base

Where is?
 
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156862) said:
@hammertime said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156345) said:
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156205) said:
The Sharks have just made a statement that they will
not be playing anywhere but Shark park when completed .. will not be waiting for the fence sitters at the Tigers making any statement any time soon !

Having a multi stadium strategy isn't "fence sitting". It's decisive, just not in the direction that some might like.

So when from next week crowds could be let in to corporate areas ... Campbelltown can only have 150 supporters as the facility is so small ..yep again the club just does not get it ! a facility that just does not fit the requirements of the club or it’s sponsor or supporters.

The NRL decided what grounds clubs would be playing at?
 
@cochise said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156869) said:
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156862) said:
@hammertime said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156345) said:
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156205) said:
The Sharks have just made a statement that they will
not be playing anywhere but Shark park when completed .. will not be waiting for the fence sitters at the Tigers making any statement any time soon !

Having a multi stadium strategy isn't "fence sitting". It's decisive, just not in the direction that some might like.

So when from next week crowds could be let in to corporate areas ... Campbelltown can only have 150 supporters as the facility is so small ..yep again the club just does not get it ! a facility that just does not fit the requirements of the club or it’s sponsor or supporters.

The NRL decided what grounds clubs would be playing at?

Is this one of the many inadequate home grounds that the club uses ? It is the big picture that is the issue !
 
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156871) said:
@cochise said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156869) said:
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156862) said:
@hammertime said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156345) said:
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156205) said:
The Sharks have just made a statement that they will
not be playing anywhere but Shark park when completed .. will not be waiting for the fence sitters at the Tigers making any statement any time soon !

Having a multi stadium strategy isn't "fence sitting". It's decisive, just not in the direction that some might like.

So when from next week crowds could be let in to corporate areas ... Campbelltown can only have 150 supporters as the facility is so small ..yep again the club just does not get it ! a facility that just does not fit the requirements of the club or it’s sponsor or supporters.

The NRL decided what grounds clubs would be playing at?

Is this one of the many inadequate home grounds that the club uses ? It is the big picture that is the issue !

That is because there is no adequate option that meets all the needs of the club.
 
There are 2 which meets all of the club’s requirements!
Good modern facilities for corporate and supporters ,plenty of first class seating for premium memberships , centrally located (both) , easy transport options ( both) it is a figment of the imagination that these options do not meet the criteria of the club or the unwillingness of supporters to grasp reality !
This is my opinion and it will also become more evident as time passes ...
 
@gallagher said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156864) said:
@jadtiger said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156859) said:
@gallagher said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156847) said:
![Screenshot_20200607-083301_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1591490047282-screenshot_20200607-083301_gallery.jpg)



This would be ideal IMO

For the people who live there it would be fine,for the majority of supporters not so good as it is not centrally located for our large supporter base

Where is?

Olympic park area is far more central
 
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156873) said:
There are 2 which meets all of the club’s requirements!
Good modern facilities for corporate and supporters ,plenty of first class seating for premium memberships , centrally located (both) , easy transport options ( both) it is a figment of the imagination that these options do not meet the criteria of the club or the unwillingness of supporters to grasp reality !
This is my opinion and it will also become more evident as time passes ...

An 80000 seat stadium does not meet the clubs needs
 
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156873) said:
There are 2 which meets all of the club’s requirements!
Good modern facilities for corporate and supporters ,plenty of first class seating for premium memberships , centrally located (both) , easy transport options ( both) it is a figment of the imagination that these options do not meet the criteria of the club or the unwillingness of supporters to grasp reality !
This is my opinion and it will also become more evident as time passes ...

You certainly have been shoving your opinion down our throats!

Do you think we have dementia that you need to repeat the same think over and over.

I think most of us get where you are coming from Snake.

Bankwest!!!!!!! right.

My opinion is REJECT!!!!!
 
@Russell said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156876) said:
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156873) said:
There are 2 which meets all of the club’s requirements!
Good modern facilities for corporate and supporters ,plenty of first class seating for premium memberships , centrally located (both) , easy transport options ( both) it is a figment of the imagination that these options do not meet the criteria of the club or the unwillingness of supporters to grasp reality !
This is my opinion and it will also become more evident as time passes ...

You certainly have been shoving your opinion down our throats!

Do you think we have dementia that you need to repeat the same think over and over.

I think most of us get where you are coming from Snake.

Bankwest!!!!!!! right.

My opinion is REJECT!!!!!

If we are looking at one ground Bankwest is the best option.
 
@cochise said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156877) said:
@Russell said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156876) said:
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156873) said:
There are 2 which meets all of the club’s requirements!
Good modern facilities for corporate and supporters ,plenty of first class seating for premium memberships , centrally located (both) , easy transport options ( both) it is a figment of the imagination that these options do not meet the criteria of the club or the unwillingness of supporters to grasp reality !
This is my opinion and it will also become more evident as time passes ...

You certainly have been shoving your opinion down our throats!

Do you think we have dementia that you need to repeat the same think over and over.

I think most of us get where you are coming from Snake.

Bankwest!!!!!!! right.

My opinion is REJECT!!!!!

If we are looking at one ground Bankwest is the best option.

Still REJECT!
 
a shared stadium at liverpool with the dogs = disaster
i would rather stick with Bankwest more centrally located to our training ground and leagues club ashfield and COE
 
the club wont be that stupid to rip half of the support base and move to liverpool wont happen they know the member figures and have the attendances
Homebush is the only option
 
@jadtiger said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156874) said:
@gallagher said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156864) said:
@jadtiger said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156859) said:
@gallagher said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156847) said:
![Screenshot_20200607-083301_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1591490047282-screenshot_20200607-083301_gallery.jpg)



This would be ideal IMO

For the people who live there it would be fine,for the majority of supporters not so good as it is not centrally located for our large supporter base

Where is?

Olympic park area is far more central

At ANZ? I'd rather a better sized stadium.
 
@cochise said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156877) said:
@Russell said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156876) said:
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156873) said:
There are 2 which meets all of the club’s requirements!
Good modern facilities for corporate and supporters ,plenty of first class seating for premium memberships , centrally located (both) , easy transport options ( both) it is a figment of the imagination that these options do not meet the criteria of the club or the unwillingness of supporters to grasp reality !
This is my opinion and it will also become more evident as time passes ...

You certainly have been shoving your opinion down our throats!

Do you think we have dementia that you need to repeat the same think over and over.

I think most of us get where you are coming from Snake.

Bankwest!!!!!!! right.

My opinion is REJECT!!!!!

If we are looking at one ground Bankwest is the best option.

Absolutely no!
 
@cochise said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156875) said:
@Snake said in [Four new suburban stadiums or grand final will go](/post/1156873) said:
There are 2 which meets all of the club’s requirements!
Good modern facilities for corporate and supporters ,plenty of first class seating for premium memberships , centrally located (both) , easy transport options ( both) it is a figment of the imagination that these options do not meet the criteria of the club or the unwillingness of supporters to grasp reality !
This is my opinion and it will also become more evident as time passes ...

An 80000 seat stadium does not meet the clubs needs

Sure it does
 

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