God?

[Flippedy]

Reyre, check out the website on this link below. It may help to answer your valid question and I think you'll relate to the author, also. It is very interesting and easy to read.

Would love to hear what you think.

Lhttp://[www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html](http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html)

 

[stryker]

[ The bible is after all an historical Book. If people say they don't have a religion because they don't believe in god, i think are missing the point of religion entirely.IMO.

Adman, firstly, the bible is not a historical book. It is a re-telling of stories 100's of years after they happened. Do you sincerely believe that Jesus walked on water or that God parted the Red Sea? That man was damned forever because a snake told Adam and Eve to eat from a forbidden tree? That all of humanity was born from just these two people? like I said before it is a good yarn but you seriously can not believe these things actually occured can you?

Secondly I have a massive problem with your last senence and I sincerely believe that this type of thinking is what has lead to religion being behind some of this planets worst ever attrocities. So what your saying is that you dont necessarily have to believe in a god to believe the teachings of what is essentially a rambling collection of stories written by power hungry old men that have become so exaggerated that they are laughable?

People who think that way are the ones who cult leaders seek out as they are easily brainwashed.

 

[alien]

It's historical fact that there was a man who was named Jesus

You sure about that??? It's possible christians don't even know his real name if he did exist.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

there were witnesses. how do like dem apples?

 

[happy_tiger]

there were witnesses. how do like dem apples?

12 I think at least

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

[ The bible is after all an historical Book. If people say they don't have a religion because they don't believe in god, i think are missing the point of religion entirely.IMO.

Adman, firstly, the bible is not a historical book. It is a re-telling of stories 100's of years after they happened. Do you sincerely believe that Jesus walked on water or that God parted the Red Sea? That man was damned forever because a snake told Adam and Eve to eat from a forbidden tree? That all of humanity was born from just these two people? like I said before it is a good yarn but you seriously can not believe these things actually occured can you?

Secondly I have a massive problem with your last senence and I sincerely believe that this type of thinking is what has lead to religion being behind some of this planets worst ever attrocities. So what your saying is that you dont necessarily have to believe in a god to believe the teachings of what is essentially a rambling collection of stories written by power hungry old men that have become so exaggerated that they are laughable?

People who think that way are the ones who cult leaders seek out as they are easily brainwashed.

thanks Strkyer! you solved the mystery to life. you know so much. and were you there by any chance. what is your source.plese give me a break. you have no idea. just your idea. please stick to wests tigers. you are out of your league. pardon the pun. :roll

 

[alien]

there were witnesses. how do like dem apples?

12 I think at least

Cool. Where are they? I want to ask them what happened.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

It's historical fact that there was a man who was named Jesus

You sure about that??? It's possible christians don't even know his real name if he did exist.

alien - please stick to wests tigers - your losing credit on the forum. tell, me what are you sure about and where are your witnesses and where is your evidence. So you think Xmas day is a make believe day - well which fool made this day up.

 

[Flippedy]

It's historical fact that there was a man who was named Jesus

You sure about that??? It's possible christians don't even know his real name if he did exist.

His real name was Yeshua (Aramaic) - meaning Salvation. There you go :smiley:

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

there were witnesses. how do like dem apples?

12 I think at least

Cool. Where are they? I want to ask them what happened.

dumbest post on the thread and most infintile. like i said stick to wests tigers alien. othewrwise I enjoy your posts on football.

 

[stryker]

there were witnesses. how do like dem apples?

12 I think at least

:roll where do I start here!!!!!

If someone had you brainwashed into thinking they were the messiah - the very son of GOD and that if you told his story you would be rewarded by living an eternity in paradise, do you not think that there would be some exageration going on?

These so called "gospels" are not factual accounts. They are stories that have been handed down over hundreds of years, each time having a little added to them until they were finally published. They dont say that they were written by Mathew, Mark, Luke, John etc…. they say they are ACCORDING to them. In other words they are loosely based on what they wrote.

It blows my mind that people believe they are fatual accounts.

 

[alien]

It's historical fact that there was a man who was named Jesus

You sure about that??? It's possible christians don't even know his real name if he did exist.

tell, me what are you sure about and where are your witnesses and where is your evidence. So you think Xmas day is a make believe day - well which fool made this day up.

They don't even know the exact day Jesus was born on. December 25 used to be a pagan holiday actually.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

so why do we have xmas? who made that up?

 

[alien]

there were witnesses. how do like dem apples?

12 I think at least

Cool. Where are they? I want to ask them what happened.

dumbest post on the thread and most infintile. like i said stick to wests tigers alien. othewrwise I enjoy your posts on football.

Well how do you know there were 12 witnesses?

 

[alien]

His real name was Yeshua (Aramaic) - meaning Salvation. There you go :smiley:

So why don't people call him that then? It's not like it's so hard to say.

 

[stryker]

[ The bible is after all an historical Book. If people say they don't have a religion because they don't believe in god, i think are missing the point of religion entirely.IMO.

Adman, firstly, the bible is not a historical book. It is a re-telling of stories 100's of years after they happened. Do you sincerely believe that Jesus walked on water or that God parted the Red Sea? That man was damned forever because a snake told Adam and Eve to eat from a forbidden tree? That all of humanity was born from just these two people? like I said before it is a good yarn but you seriously can not believe these things actually occured can you?

Secondly I have a massive problem with your last senence and I sincerely believe that this type of thinking is what has lead to religion being behind some of this planets worst ever attrocities. So what your saying is that you dont necessarily have to believe in a god to believe the teachings of what is essentially a rambling collection of stories written by power hungry old men that have become so exaggerated that they are laughable?

People who think that way are the ones who cult leaders seek out as they are easily brainwashed.

thanks Strkyer! you solved the mystery to life. you know so much. and were you there by any chance. what is your source.plese give me a break. you have no idea. just your idea. please stick to wests tigers. you are out of your league. pardon the pun. :roll

And exactly what is this adding to the thread? We are having a civil debate here X if you want to grow up and join us, by all means do so.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

It's historical fact that there was a man who was named Jesus

You sure about that??? It's possible christians don't even know his real name if he did exist.

tell, me what are you sure about and where are your witnesses and where is your evidence. So you think Xmas day is a make believe day - well which fool made this day up.

They don't even know the exact day Jesus was born on. December 25 used to be a pagan holiday actually.

but you are acknowleding Jesus in your answer! so what if we dont know his birthday date - what day was your birthday 3 years ago - let alone 2000 years. Anyway its your death - there's only one man that conquered death and talked about it - my money is on him - no other in this world has anything to offer on the subject - who do you think i will believe. are you telling me Einstein is wrong.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

[ The bible is after all an historical Book. If people say they don't have a religion because they don't believe in god, i think are missing the point of religion entirely.IMO.

Adman, firstly, the bible is not a historical book. It is a re-telling of stories 100's of years after they happened. Do you sincerely believe that Jesus walked on water or that God parted the Red Sea? That man was damned forever because a snake told Adam and Eve to eat from a forbidden tree? That all of humanity was born from just these two people? like I said before it is a good yarn but you seriously can not believe these things actually occured can you?

Secondly I have a massive problem with your last senence and I sincerely believe that this type of thinking is what has lead to religion being behind some of this planets worst ever attrocities. So what your saying is that you dont necessarily have to believe in a god to believe the teachings of what is essentially a rambling collection of stories written by power hungry old men that have become so exaggerated that they are laughable?

People who think that way are the ones who cult leaders seek out as they are easily brainwashed.

thanks Strkyer! you solved the mystery to life. you know so much. and were you there by any chance. what is your source.plese give me a break. you have no idea. just your idea. please stick to wests tigers. you are out of your league. pardon the pun. :roll

And exactly what is this adding to the thread? We are having a civil debate here X if you want to grow up and join us, by all means do so.

please stick to topic.

 

[alien]

but you are acknowleding Jesus in your answer! so what if we dont know his birthday date - what day was your birthday 3 years ago - let alone 2000 years. Anyway its your death - there's only one man that conquered death and talked about it - my money is on him - no other in this world has anything to offer on the subject - who do you think i will believe. are you telling me Einstein is wrong.

If he existed then how do you know he conquered death? What did Einstein say about it?

 

[Adman]

[ The bible is after all an historical Book. If people say they don't have a religion because they don't believe in god, i think are missing the point of religion entirely.IMO.

Adman, firstly, the bible is not a historical book. It is a re-telling of stories 100's of years after they happened. Do you sincerely believe that Jesus walked on water or that God parted the Red Sea? That man was damned forever because a snake told Adam and Eve to eat from a forbidden tree? That all of humanity was born from just these two people? like I said before it is a good yarn but you seriously can not believe these things actually occured can you.

apologies, in my mind I was referring to the bible referring to Jesus and his life specifically.I didn't consider the other stories you mentioned, and generalized to whole book, which is obviously a stupid error of mine. I think what I'm trying to say is that someone saw this person do these things and decided to write them down. In that regard, the bible is a historical book that documented the life of this and many other people, no different then any other written text about any other historical figure in our history before the modern age of video recordings etc.if we disregard written text as just something some powerful man wrote because he could, then how accurate is any historical literature?

I don't really understand the rest of your post. But sure.

Cheers.