GREENBERG GONE.....
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happy_tiger
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@jadtiger said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144453) said:
He was 10 x better than Greenburg
@mike said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144450) said:
After the way she was treated at Wests I doubt she'd ever get involved again, and I wouldn't blame her.
happy_tiger
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@Russell said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144456) said:
Well with the money we will be offering that's about all we will get ......
@JoshColeman99 said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144432) said:
So are you saying he would still be in the job ..even though he was doing a terrible job..if it wasn't for the Media and the Global Pandemic..
Toddles card was marked as early as February when he had a clause to extend his contract for 2 years..Vlandy's pulled the pin on those meetings and negotiations..if anything the Pandemic shortly after added a couple of months to his tenure..
happy_tiger
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@Cultured_Bogan said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144458) said:
Probably still busy pulling knives out of her back
@happy_tiger said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144454) said:
10 x 0 still equals 0...
happy_tiger
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@Geo said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144462) said:
I say the same thing to Hobbo when he compares himself to you ....go figure
We need someone who understands the game ...not Gould ....and I don't think anyone who knows the game would be stupid enuff to take the role
@Geo said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144460) said:
He would’ve been gone anyway, but the media’s been attacking him a while and They used this pandemic to get him out a lot faster than he would’ve been gone. Without it I reckon he’s gone at the end of the season not now.
@Russell said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144452) said:
-most people turned off him when he sent a reference in for Inglis after his DUI and the gift for Cameron smiths wife. Both big errors on his part. The media constantly writing bad articles about him didn’t help either
gallagher
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Bring back Gallop!
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I see Mal Meninga has jumped to Toddys defense,you cant blame Tod for everything gone wrong in the NRL he has put it into a great position says Meninga...
Yeah good for you MM do you owe him anything?...coach football mate and don't interfere with something that's beyond your capacity..Greenburg has bought everything upon himself,and he did a good job of that...
source ninemsn....
Yeah good for you MM do you owe him anything?...coach football mate and don't interfere with something that's beyond your capacity..Greenburg has bought everything upon himself,and he did a good job of that...
source ninemsn....
jirskyr
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I agree to some extent with Josh, I am not a Greenberg fan but the reality is that people have been dissatisfied with the CEO's (or equivalent) performance since rugby league existed.
Rugby League has been squandering opportunities and dealing with in-fighting since 1908, and it wasn't going to change on Greenberg's watch.
His main failing I think is that he was easy to dislike. Your average mug punter wouldn't honestly have any clue whether or not Greeberg was a good CEO, they wouldn't even know what the CEO's KPIs were and how he was performing against those. Mug punters only absorb the "at surface" items like "I didn't like the bunker" or "refs are doing a bad job" and then pointing back at the CEO.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a mug punter too, but I won't claim to know if Greenberg was actually any good at his job. All I can say is he lost the popularity contest.
All this other stuff, e.g. the cost of running the NRL - that's just reality of big income. Sure head office could have been more cost-effective in squirreling away funds, but that is true of any management and most of them spend within their means (i.e. if their means grow, so do their spending).
Similarly look at any given club and how much money they spend on non-player salaries since the salary cap was bumped up over the last 2 broadcast deals.
This latest report about missing funds, we are talking very small sums here. Certainly the accounting needs to be 100% accurate, but it's not enough to topple a CEO, and I'd challenge anyone to be certain that no other missing funds ever occurred within rugby league headquarters or any other state branch.
So keep in mind this almost excessive "fan celebration" in regards to Greenberg in 3-4 years when the next bloke has gotten his hands dirty and rugby league hasn't magically been fixed or cured of it's historical ills.
Rugby League has been squandering opportunities and dealing with in-fighting since 1908, and it wasn't going to change on Greenberg's watch.
His main failing I think is that he was easy to dislike. Your average mug punter wouldn't honestly have any clue whether or not Greeberg was a good CEO, they wouldn't even know what the CEO's KPIs were and how he was performing against those. Mug punters only absorb the "at surface" items like "I didn't like the bunker" or "refs are doing a bad job" and then pointing back at the CEO.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a mug punter too, but I won't claim to know if Greenberg was actually any good at his job. All I can say is he lost the popularity contest.
All this other stuff, e.g. the cost of running the NRL - that's just reality of big income. Sure head office could have been more cost-effective in squirreling away funds, but that is true of any management and most of them spend within their means (i.e. if their means grow, so do their spending).
Similarly look at any given club and how much money they spend on non-player salaries since the salary cap was bumped up over the last 2 broadcast deals.
This latest report about missing funds, we are talking very small sums here. Certainly the accounting needs to be 100% accurate, but it's not enough to topple a CEO, and I'd challenge anyone to be certain that no other missing funds ever occurred within rugby league headquarters or any other state branch.
So keep in mind this almost excessive "fan celebration" in regards to Greenberg in 3-4 years when the next bloke has gotten his hands dirty and rugby league hasn't magically been fixed or cured of it's historical ills.
gallagher
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@TrueTiger said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144473) said:
Mal got a full-time gig as a coach for half a dozen games a year. He can get his snout out of the trough too.
TheDaBoss
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@TrueTiger said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144473) said:
I still can't forgive meninga by saying we were going to win round 25 at half time 😐😑
Kiss of death 🤥😬😑
Fade.To.Black
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@happy_tiger said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144444) said:
Gallop was a champ.....he took the Storm to task for their cheating. Greenberg seemed to encourage unevenness and bias within the comp.Where's the petition Hap, I'll sign!
TheDaBoss
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NRL's most likely options to replace Todd Greenberg as CEO after Monday axing
By Scott Bailey
6 hours ago
ANDREW ABDO
The new acting chief executive and front-runner for the top job. South African who has spent six years as the NRL's chief commercial operator. Has been in charge of the game's brand and sponsorship since 2013. Joined chairman Peter V'landys on a recent trip to the USA to meet with Lachlan Murdoch and streaming services, and is also part of the Project Apollo Committee. The chartered accountant shapes as a big chance.
NRL chief commercial officer Andrew Abdo. (Sydney Morning Herald)
DAVE TRODDEN
The boss of the NSW Rugby League since 2013 after almost a decade as chairman of the Wests Tigers. With a background in law, Trodden has helped plan and open the NSWRL Centre of Excellence at Homebush and swept through reform merging with the Country Rugby League last year following three decades of talks.
PAUL WHITE
Brisbane chief executive since 2010 with a long history as a coach and player in Queensland rugby league. A former police officer, White has impressed some within the NRL as he sat in recent meetings with players regarding their wages through the coronavius hiatus. Has previously stated he plans on leaving the Broncos at the end of this season.
PETER V'LANDYS
The game's chairman, who would need to take on an executive chairman role to move into the top job. Has taken on a bigger role through the coronavirus as the leading man with broadcasters amid discontent with Greenberg. Would have busy schedule if he took on the job given he is also CEO of Racing NSW, but has indicated he does not want to replace Greenberg with himself.
ARLC chairman Peter V'landys and ex-NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg after the NRL shut down. (AAP)
DON FURNER
Chief executive of the Canberra Raiders since 2008, and one of the most respected club bosses in the game. Has a seat on the NRL's Project Apollo Committee and recently helped set up and open the Raiders' $20 million centre of excellence. Has the ability to make tough decisions, including sacking his brother David as coach of Canberra in 2013.
DAVE DONAGHY
Melbourne club boss who has gone from media manager to chief executive since first arriving at the club in 2008. Smooth operator and one of the youngest CEOs in the game, Donaghy has a background as a journalist and also spent three years with the Brisbane Lions in the AFL.
BLAKE SOLLY
South Sydney boss since 2016. Has a legal background, but crucially spent two years as general manager of the English Super League between 2014 and 2016. Has sat on NRL committees in the past, but indicated earlier this month he was not interested in taking Todd Greenberg's role if it became available.
Latest NRL Videos
Some players may have to work: Gould
01:08
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03:31
New Direction for the NRL: The Captain and the Coach
27:00
SIMON MCGRATH
The chief operating officer at Accor Hotels. Doesn't have the same rugby league background as a number of the other contenders, but was close to replacing Dave Smith in 2016 before Greenberg eventually won out. That lack of a club background could help his cause, removing the issue of any perceived bias in dealing with difficult situations.
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-s-likely-options-to-replace-greenberg/eda7e83f-8c87-4191-af2b-ffc795a2a5ad
©2020
By Scott Bailey
6 hours ago
ANDREW ABDO
The new acting chief executive and front-runner for the top job. South African who has spent six years as the NRL's chief commercial operator. Has been in charge of the game's brand and sponsorship since 2013. Joined chairman Peter V'landys on a recent trip to the USA to meet with Lachlan Murdoch and streaming services, and is also part of the Project Apollo Committee. The chartered accountant shapes as a big chance.
NRL chief commercial officer Andrew Abdo. (Sydney Morning Herald)
DAVE TRODDEN
The boss of the NSW Rugby League since 2013 after almost a decade as chairman of the Wests Tigers. With a background in law, Trodden has helped plan and open the NSWRL Centre of Excellence at Homebush and swept through reform merging with the Country Rugby League last year following three decades of talks.
PAUL WHITE
Brisbane chief executive since 2010 with a long history as a coach and player in Queensland rugby league. A former police officer, White has impressed some within the NRL as he sat in recent meetings with players regarding their wages through the coronavius hiatus. Has previously stated he plans on leaving the Broncos at the end of this season.
PETER V'LANDYS
The game's chairman, who would need to take on an executive chairman role to move into the top job. Has taken on a bigger role through the coronavirus as the leading man with broadcasters amid discontent with Greenberg. Would have busy schedule if he took on the job given he is also CEO of Racing NSW, but has indicated he does not want to replace Greenberg with himself.
ARLC chairman Peter V'landys and ex-NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg after the NRL shut down. (AAP)
DON FURNER
Chief executive of the Canberra Raiders since 2008, and one of the most respected club bosses in the game. Has a seat on the NRL's Project Apollo Committee and recently helped set up and open the Raiders' $20 million centre of excellence. Has the ability to make tough decisions, including sacking his brother David as coach of Canberra in 2013.
DAVE DONAGHY
Melbourne club boss who has gone from media manager to chief executive since first arriving at the club in 2008. Smooth operator and one of the youngest CEOs in the game, Donaghy has a background as a journalist and also spent three years with the Brisbane Lions in the AFL.
BLAKE SOLLY
South Sydney boss since 2016. Has a legal background, but crucially spent two years as general manager of the English Super League between 2014 and 2016. Has sat on NRL committees in the past, but indicated earlier this month he was not interested in taking Todd Greenberg's role if it became available.
Latest NRL Videos
Some players may have to work: Gould
01:08
Slater calls for min sin-bin
03:31
New Direction for the NRL: The Captain and the Coach
27:00
SIMON MCGRATH
The chief operating officer at Accor Hotels. Doesn't have the same rugby league background as a number of the other contenders, but was close to replacing Dave Smith in 2016 before Greenberg eventually won out. That lack of a club background could help his cause, removing the issue of any perceived bias in dealing with difficult situations.
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-s-likely-options-to-replace-greenberg/eda7e83f-8c87-4191-af2b-ffc795a2a5ad
©2020
Fade.To.Black
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@JoshColeman99 said in [GREENBERG GONE\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1144409) said:
Where did he grow the game internationally? Tonga have been good for the game, but their fortunes only turned because blokes like Taumalolo, Fifita etc chose to represent them over other nations. Not really Todd's good management.
And as far as growing the women's game, 2 or 3 years ago there was a sudden niche market for a women-only competition in Aussie Rules, RL and soccer. Not really Todd's good management, the Aus/NZ NRLW Test Matches are decent products but the NRLW is languishing with only what, 4 or 5 clubs represented? A hell of a long way behind the W-League or AFLW.
Todd did a horrible job of NRL CEO whichever way someone spins it, he managed to earn the dislike of every single club in the NRL (no mean feat to have Souths included in amongst them considering his disgraceful Inglis reference gesture and the suspect medical retirements of both GI and Burgess which were both highly dubious to most fans of the game). He must be a real piece of work for every club in the comp to despise him.
