HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[weststigers]

The Bears will end up with our marquee talent if HBG aren’t wiped out of decision making anyway. 🐻

If it was any other administrator at the helm other than V'Landys, I'd say there was no hope of a resolution, but I think he has the balls to do something drastic.

 

[BAGNF05]

💯 correct.
The point is sone people are going the wrong way about it, you cannot victimise everybody on the HBG board or associated to them for others actions.
DB and maybe one other random are the only ones who have been on the HBG for a long period of time d, the others are inclined Epifania are mostly fresh faces who have nothing to do with what’s happened in the past.
The part that gets me is disrespectful ting former players involved via sssociation. Most of the people being highly critical have no idea that these ex players are trying to right the wrongs and by its naive, uneducated and disrespectful to either not have any idea who they are or still want to attack them for their association with HBG without any knowledge that they have done anything wrong as individuals.

I don’t claim to know who or what is going on, all I ask is that PVL stops the rot.

 

[weststigers]

💯 correct.
The point is sone people are going the wrong way about it, you cannot victimise everybody on the HBG board or associated to them for others actions.
DB and maybe one other random are the only ones who have been on the HBG for a long period of time, the others including Epifania are mostly fresh faces who have nothing to do with what’s happened with previous HBG involvement.
The part that gets me is disrespecting former players involved via sssociation. Most of the people being highly critical have no idea that these ex players are trying to right the wrongs and by it is naive, uneducated and disrespectful to either not have any idea who they are or still want to attack them for their association with HBG without any knowledge that they have done anything wrong as individuals.

Perhaps their respect is limited to their playing days...should that extend to their administrative days? If they are part of the board, they are part of the problem.

 

[NT_Tiger]

I reckon he has more heart than to walk away right now...
I doubt he will abandon Benji an the boys...
I think he'll work with PVL and do his best to dismantle this inept bunch from the HBG...
They are my deluded visions

I agree that Richo has too much heart to walk away cold. He will only leave if he sees no way forward, IE HBG has a strangle hold and is within their rights to trash the club. If so, say bye bye to many of the playing group as well.

 

[hank37w]

Look I shouldn’t be saying this because I was told under strict secrecy but Glebe is looking to pick up our licence.

The Dirty Fithy Orange Magpies.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

David v Goliath - We know how that ended

Yeah, but that was the 1012BC version of the stoush.
Big G may have learnt one or two things from that shock loss 🤔

 

[Vicious]

I don’t claim to know who or what is going on, all I ask is that PVL stops the rot.

That’s fair enough and like 95% of Wests Tigers supporters who do not know
a lot about what is going on, but just want stability, want the team to be successful on the field and do not attack anyone else for having a more in depth open minded opinion, that is totally understandable and you are what I consider true supporters.

 

[Vicious]

Perhaps their respect is limited to their playing days...should that extend to their administrative days? If they are part of the board, they are part of the problem.

Just because of their association?

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

To be clear. With this latest development, I'm 100% certain the only way for the club to go forward is to kick HBG out.

If they are able to get their way and rebrand under any other logo, I'm out because that would signal that change is impossible. A club rebrand would be a disaster 25 years on not to mention a continuation of the debenture holders that have held the club hostage for so long.

While change is possible, I will support the team and push for new ownership. That is my agenda. What's yours? You like to comment and cherry pick to challenge, but you never lay your cards out...you're not being clever.

My agenda is to enjoy life.
Sometimes being clever can get in the way of that.

 

[hammertime]

To be clear. With this latest development, I'm 100% certain the only way for the club to go forward is to kick HBG out.

If they are able to get their way and rebrand under any other logo, I'm out because that would signal that change is impossible. A club rebrand would be a disaster 25 years on not to mention a continuation of the debenture holders that have held the club hostage for so long.

While change is possible, I will support the team and push for new ownership. That is my agenda. What's yours? You like to comment and cherry pick to challenge, but you never lay your cards out...you're not being clever.

I might be in a limited party here, but I don't want to kick HBG out. They've done some good stuff, including bringing the Balmain clubs under their umbrella and they're a great supporter of junior league.

We simply need to have the HBG board up for a vote and keep this separate WT model. That's it. Remove the debentures, make people accountable. Allow people to vote for the best for the HBG board. If that's Dennis after he faces a vote, so be it. I doubt it would be, but if it is, then that's a proper members-based structure.

This current structure should honestly be illegal for a members club.

 

[Terry T.Nuts]

I’m sure a good majority of WT supporters who used to follow WSM just want success for WT. The issue appears to be at HBG Board level. Anything else is just noise.

Totally agree champ, the fighting on this thread is bloody pathetic. I think everyone wants the Wests Tigers to succeed and the vast majority don't want the Balmain or Magpies back, they just want the obviously useless HBG gone and completely independent control of the club put in.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Sharon has thrown his two cents in. Remember that captain we had a decade ago who refused to defend the club in public, was out for himself, threw the club under the bus in a televised interview, then left and finished his career as a reserve grader? And now all he’s remembered for is missing the pile when he attempted a pile on in that one Origin game, which is a perfect metaphor for how his career panned out after he quit the club? Yeah, that guy. Suddenly he cares about what HBG are doing.

 

[Lestronge]

Correct , the nrl needs to make them change the system and have a members vote like normal clubs , football club members , it’s not hard and it can be done , issue the flogs who have those $ 2 debentures won’t want to let go , nrl needs to really stand up hear and just simply say if it’s not done we don’t renew the licence ,Magpies , Wests Tigers all gone send licence to NZ and bring in South Island team

It would have to be the gaming commission mate . But 💯 that’s the answer. It’s always been the answer . HBG out all that stuff , whilst I was emotional early doors this week , I realise that the gaming commission has to be the answer .
It was beyond farcical when I heard @cochise and Steve talk about how many people had been dismissed from that board for nonsense reasons as well, and 3 chairman/ chair people.
If that’s not an insight into dysfunction I’m not here! Imagine that was the team you work in. 8 people fired in 18 months , and 3 bosses. Most businesses would be looking hard at closing down the section .

 

[innsaneink]

What did they use to say mate ? What was the vibes ? I’ve never heard this rhetoric before .

Just that the board were.like pigs at the trough... only in it for the status, blazers and free piss while the footy club had to get by on bare scraps....much like nowadays.
I know Jim Murphy was a regular....worked as a garbo at the council depot opposite the club...few other old players were regulars

 

[weststigers]

My agenda is to enjoy life.
Sometimes being clever can get in the way of that.

When you're ready to engage properly let me know, otherwise don't pose any further questions to me.

 

[weststigers]

Just because of their association?

This is a war now Vicious. Pick a side - if he's not against them, he's with them. We can shake hands after a victor is crowned.

 

[hammertime]

It’s almost laughable - the same idiots been running the Tigers through its worst period in existence with their (viva la 90%)
And somehow the Magpies on the Jersey is going to make them do a better job with 100% control (not that the Balmain rep offers anything)

Sorry, not almost laughable…
😂😂😂😂

I don't want to start anything, but black is the worst colour for a sports jersey if we're being honest. It absorbs heat.

The pure black and white jersey should be our special jersey. It could be released halfway through the season and sell like hotcakes. The Broncos did it for Black Dog Day, and I'm willing to bet it's one of their best-selling ever.

 

[hank37w]

But your main sport was belting De La Salle boys around Ashfield station. By “you” I mean Ashy High boys, not you personally.

Nah, Ink was there. 🤣

 

[Lestronge]

I might be in a limited party here, but I don't want to kick HBG out. They've done some good stuff, including bringing the Balmain clubs under their umbrella and they're a great supporter of junior league.

We simply need to have the HBG board up for a vote and keep this separate WT model. That's it. Remove the debentures, make people accountable. Allow people to vote for the best for the HBG board. If that's Dennis after he faces a vote, so be it. I doubt it would be, but if it is, then that's a proper members-based structure.

This current structure should honestly be illegal for a members club.

Agree mate . The issue isn’t HBG . I mean the name itself implies unity Holman and Barnes . The problem is , the actual humans who made those decisions got fired last year in one of Dennis’ coups . And then he white- anted Julie not long after. Some Game of thrones stuff right there.
The people now in charge arnt even acting in the best interest of HBG. They’re 💯 all in on themselves and Wests Magpies . And not even Wests Campbelltown . Purely wests magpies circa 1980s. So inner city wests magpies .
It couldn’t anymore niche and selfish IMO. Because of this a democratic process to have that board elected , and the removal of the debenture system would be fine . I think even Richo would be fine with that , as it would align with just about every other club who are owned and operated by a leagues club. Eg. The eels , panthers , bulldogs etc.

 

[Lestronge]

One thing that has been bothering me though about the wests tigers board makeup was the idea that the owners had veto power because they had more numbers on the board . I mean in principle that’s true , but I always felt like the Balmain delegate would have been more inclined to align themselves to the independents rather than HBG. So technically if Balmain is always aligned to independents just for arguments sake , they could easily vote to have the club sold to say Easts tigers , if they had full autonomy and control ( which they were gearing towards, it’s the real reason for the dismissal). It’s what @poopy_diaper was implying in his podcast .
I mean there’s a lot of assumptions there though. That Balmain would cut off its hand to spite its face , that the independents would be cool , let’s sell to a Brisbane club , etc .
But yea , if you’re clinging to power like Caesar at the fall of Rome , youre gonna be paranoid AF .