HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

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weststigers said:
As long as you believe you are right that's all that matters.

The only thing is, they all got speared over the stadium thing...allegedly. COE...a free facility with taxpayer funded money...ypu think they'd stop that? Player signings? Only once they were out of the way.

Interesting that Richo would have clauses in his contract around having an independent board. He stated today that he knocked them.back the first time around because the board was HBG controlled. Can you tell me why a CEO would insist on that if they thought a stacked HBG board would let him do his job properly?
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"The only thing is, they all got speared over the stadium thing...allegedly."

"Player signings? Only once they were out of the way." We have only signed players at the club after HBG had put in some independent board members?

Why did Richo put in clauses? Don't know. Because he wanted to ensure he worked with Barry O'Farrell? Who knows? Why didn't previous CEO's have those clauses?

You can be as pissy with me as you want. I don't care. I'm not happy Richo left. But, it's not about to change my support of the club. I don't follow the CEO. I hope the next guy is good. And until someone with more clout than HBG takes over the club, I'm not about to let it get me so worked up that every post is akin to the sky falling on my head.

The club existed before Richo & with HBG. It will after Richo & with HBG.
 
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The Chad said:
Unless the coaching staff decide they want out, I don't think anything changes for next season at all.

By which time, a new CEO, board & front office will be in place & have an opportunity to put things in place.

Decisions from Bula & Luai MIGHT be impacted, for future seasons. But they were already under some scrutiny anyway.
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Yep that's been our problem...a new CEO, board and front office should finally bring success. They'll just slot in and it'll be business as usual...won't take long to totally undo everything the last CEO was building and with HBG board guidance, we'll be flying.

Spare me
 
BeeCeen said:
It is very difficult to see any promising player, coach or administrator hitching themselves to the club given what has just transpired. It is utter madness.

It’s obviously much deeper than perceptions, but the perceptions also matter. The destruction of brand value (for sponsors) and loyalty (for fans) is very, very serious.
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Except that historically HBG have been part of the club & players, managers & administrators have continually signed with the club.
 
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The Chad said:
"The only thing is, they all got speared over the stadium thing...allegedly."

"Player signings? Only once they were out of the way." We have only signed players at the club after HBG had put in some independent board members?

Why did Richo put in clauses? Don't know. Because he wanted to ensure he worked with Barry O'Farrell? Who knows? Why didn't previous CEO's have those clauses?

You can be as pissy with me as you want. I don't care. I'm not happy Richo left. But, it's not about to change my support of the club. I don't follow the CEO. I hope the next guy is good. And until someone with more clout than HBG takes over the club, I'm not about to let it get me so worked up that every post is akin to the sky falling on my head.

The club existed before Richo & with HBG. It will after Richo & with HBG.
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It won’t exist for much longer when it’s being sabotaged.
 
weststigers said:
Please help Chad understand no one has any power other than this small group of debenture holders....including any CEO operating under a majority HBG board.
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"Please help Chad understand no one has any power other than this small group of debenture holders"

You just made my point.

Chill out. Getting worked up isn't going to change it.
 
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Been silent for a while trying to understand everything that's happened.

This Richo stuff really does suck but it has only increased the outrage to the highest levels against HBG we have ever seen.

Watched the emergency pod this arvo and agreed with everything they said.

Don't give up hope they have gone too far this time and I think they're going to be put in there place finally but don't expect it to happen overnight it will take time to sift through everything.
 
weststigers said:
Yep that's been our problem...a new CEO, board and front office should finally bring success. They'll just slot in and it'll be business as usual...won't take long to totally undo everything the last CEO was building and with HBG board guidance, we'll be flying.

Spare me
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Maybe.

Was there a guarantee Richo's plans were going to work?

Last I checked, a fortnight ago, people were still concerned about Luai's contract clauses & Bula resigning because we let his wife leave the club. That was all under Richo's watch.
 
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Craegus said:
Perhaps a polite email to the local members of government for councils, state and federal electorates that take in Wests Tigers areas might be something to think about. Darcy Byrne is doing a great job, but there are a lot more political voices that could get involved and would really push for change.



Mayors:

Campbelltown: darcy.lound@campbelltown.nsw.gov.au

Camden: cr.fedeli@camden.nsw.gov.au

Wollondilly: matt.gould@wollondilly.nsw.gov.au



State members:

Greg Warren: Campbelltown@parliament.nsw.gov.au

Sally Quinnel: camden@parliament.nsw.gov.au

Anoulack Chanthivong: macquariefields@parliament.nsw.gov.au

Nathan Hagarty: leppington@parliament.nsw.gov.au

Judy Hannan: wollondilly@parliament.nsw.gov.au

Kobi Shetty: balmain@parliament.nsw.gov.au



Federal Members:

Macarthur: Mike.Freelander.MP@aph.gov.au

Werriwa: anne.stanley.mp@aph.gov.au

Hughes: David.Moncrieff.MP@aph.gov.au

Hume: angus.taylor.mp@aph.gov.au

Reid: Sally.Sitou.MP@aph.gov.au

Sydney: Tanya.Plibersek.MP@aph.gov.au

Grayndler: A.Albanese.MP@aph.gov.au
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Maybe we should look at getting a former senior political figure onto our board!
 
The Chad said:
Based on what? Who has actually said the existence of the club is under threat, other than a few people on here?
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Based on the fact that the club has been a basket case for 10 years, finished last 3 times in a row, and in response undertook a review which identified that in order to be successful needed to implement a fundamental change of governance, which was summarily thrown away.

The existence of the club, at core, depends upon sufficient people supporting the franchise. And the last 7 days has broken to faith of a significant number of dedicated supporters, the loss of which will further undermine the viability of the club.
 
BeeCeen said:
Based on the fact that the club has been a basket case for 10 years, finished last 3 times in a row, and in response undertook a review which identified that in order to be successful needed to implement a fundamental change of governance, which was summarily thrown away.

The existence of the club, at core, depends upon sufficient people supporting the franchise. And the last 7 days has broken to faith of a significant number of dedicated supporters, the loss of which will further undermine the viability of the club.
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I guess your point will be proven when all the club support disappears
 
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The Chad said:
I guess your point will be proven when all the club support disappears
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That’s the worry, yes.

Hopefully not, for the club’s sake.

But if you were a marketing professional, you would likely think that the strongest supporters of a football club would be those reading and posting on a supporters forum in the offseason, or making / viewing fan podcasts in the offseason. From the evidence available, what has occurred doesn’t appear to have exactly helped support for the club.
 
cochise said:
Existed is the right word, because it definitely wasn't successful.
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What do we base that on though?

Financially, were the club any worse than over 50% of the other NRL clubs? Pascoe used to bang on about membership numbers & finances going up all the time.

Or are we talking success on the field? Because either we absolve all the previous coaches of their responsibility & it's all HBG's fault, or HBG put coaches like Sheens, Maguire etc in front of the players & the coaches failed.

I'm not a HBG stooge/supporter or anything like that. It's just that the rhetoric at the moment is being fuelled by a lot of fear of the unknown.
 
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The Chad said:
"The only thing is, they all got speared over the stadium thing...allegedly."

"Player signings? Only once they were out of the way." We have only signed players at the club after HBG had put in some independent board members?

Why did Richo put in clauses? Don't know. Because he wanted to ensure he worked with Barry O'Farrell? Who knows? Why didn't previous CEO's have those clauses?

You can be as pissy with me as you want. I don't care. I'm not happy Richo left. But, it's not about to change my support of the club. I don't follow the CEO. I hope the next guy is good. And until someone with more clout than HBG takes over the club, I'm not about to let it get me so worked up that every post is akin to the sky falling on my head.

The club existed before Richo & with HBG. It will after Richo & with HBG.
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Pissy? I thought you're head was in the clouds before, but now I'm starting to wonder if you're on substances. BTW I'm not worked up...just focused on what needs to be done.

I love your optimism Chad, and I have nothing against you if that's how you're taking this, but I do think you're being a bit naive.

I've been involved in similar situations and you'd be surprised at how petty things can get amongst adults who should know better. That doesn't mean I'm necessarily right, but I've seen this play out before and just drawing on what I see and some.experience. You have to ask yourself, why would anyone want to make changes at board level after the results we achieved? It was the biggest shock in rugby league out of nowhere.

There's just no way you'd spear 4 independents unless you didn't like how the votes were going against your agenda.
seperate ro that, Wests Ashfield have 2 member elected board members...both speared...member elected! You can't make this stuff up...it's been going on for years.

It doesn't seem strange to you that every single person making commentary is all saying the same thing about the owners? I haven't heard one commentator take your view on things and these guys are closer to it than you and me.

I don't want this to be a pissing contest about who is right or wrong. Respect your opinion and you're entitled to have it. I know I was a little sarcastic before, but I like you and value your contribution, so I hope you haven't taken offence at any of my comments.

I'm just quite sure that with all the CEOs, coaches (2 of which have gone on to win premierships), players, staff, chairmen and board members we've gone through that it's probably time to point the finger at the owners because they either can't pick quality people, or they're getting in the way.
 
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