HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[The Chad]

I believe that you believe that. I'm not going to fight you.

Look...you're probably right. The CEO can probably make some decisions around what brand copy paper we buy and maybe our internet provider.

Apparently they are free to approve their own Annual Leave mid-season & have free reign on what they post on Social Media during that time too. Seems they are allowed to freely advocate weird hair styles & dodgy fashion choices.

As well as making deals around stadiums, player signings etc. Even get the green light to work on achieving a Centre of Excellence if the desire is there.

 

[Dr_Ice]

Whose self interest though. What did HBG gain by doing this? WT barely makes money and most NRL clubs dont. They have much bigger fish to fry with their own clubs.

What did they actually achieve by doing this? "They have more control over WT". But what are they gonna achieve with this control.

Agree completely. They wanted and will get more control (unless NRL have a lever to make them have independent directors again), however they have proven that they do not have the required abilities.

No corruption as some believe, just doubtful decision making

 

[cochise]

I thought it was a combination of elected representatives and debentures but I could be wrong. I've never really looked into it.

5 directors appointed by the debenture holders 2 by the general membership.

Though they sacked and banned the 2 general membership board members last year.

 

[The Chad]

I agreed with this up to November 2025.

You always have a bit of politics and stupidity. Pascoe and Lee did have a fairly free reign and while I recall there was talk in delaying some contracts, I don't believe the delays were from HBG (could be wrong).

The problem was the coaching. The problem still is the coaching and getting a first class establishment.

I have said "the board doesn't matter" but when you have HBG making such chaos, it now matters.


The only positive I can see is the people waited till December. I respect that. I still want HBG to be gone, but I respect that they waited till after the normal season.

Unless the coaching staff decide they want out, I don't think anything changes for next season at all.

By which time, a new CEO, board & front office will be in place & have an opportunity to put things in place.

Decisions from Bula & Luai MIGHT be impacted, for future seasons. But they were already under some scrutiny anyway.

 

[Dr_Ice]

I'm hoping Marshall walks and takes both May boys, Luai and Bula with him. If it's imploding let it implode properly. Maybe then the N.R.L will finally do something.

We won 3 straight spoons and no-one stepped in to help. Someone has to come last. This is self inflicted!

 

[weststigers]

Apparently they are free to approve their own Annual Leave mid-season & have free reign on what they post on Social Media during that time too. Seems they are allowed to freely advocate weird hair styles & dodgy fashion choices.

As well as making deals around stadiums, player signings etc. Even get the green light to work on achieving a Centre of Excellence if the desire is there.

As long as you believe you are right that's all that matters.

The only thing is, they all got speared over the stadium thing...allegedly. COE...a free facility with taxpayer funded money...ypu think they'd stop that? Player signings? Only once they were out of the way.

Interesting that Richo would have clauses in his contract around having an independent board. He stated today that he knocked them.back the first time around because the board was HBG controlled. Can you tell me why a CEO would insist on that if they thought a stacked HBG board would let him do his job properly?

 

[BeeCeen]

Unless the coaching staff decide they want out, I don't think anything changes for next season at all.

By which time, a new CEO, board & front office will be in place & have an opportunity to put things in place.

Decisions from Bula & Luai MIGHT be impacted, for future seasons. But they were already under some scrutiny anyway.

It is very difficult to see any promising player, coach or administrator hitching themselves to the club given what has just transpired. It is utter madness.

It’s obviously much deeper than perceptions, but the perceptions also matter. The destruction of brand value (for sponsors) and loyalty (for fans) is very, very serious.

 

[Dr_Ice]

Worst thing I've read all day, from HBG:

We again wish to reassure our fans and the broader NRL of our commitment to the joint venture.

Go committ yourselves elsewhere you useless pricks.

Should be a given shouldn’t it. No comment should be required

 

[weststigers]

5 directors appointed by the debenture holders 2 by the general membership.

Though they sacked and banned the 2 general membership board members last year.

Please help Chad understand no one has any power other than this small group of debenture holders....including any CEO operating under a majority HBG board.

 

[BAGNF05]

We won 3 straight spoons and no-one stepped in to help. Someone has to come last. This is self inflicted!

Being bad on the football field is different to some of the things HBG is accused of, through their own unnecessary actions.

 

[The Chad]

As long as you believe you are right that's all that matters.

The only thing is, they all got speared over the stadium thing...allegedly. COE...a free facility with taxpayer funded money...ypu think they'd stop that? Player signings? Only once they were out of the way.

Interesting that Richo would have clauses in his contract around having an independent board. He stated today that he knocked them.back the first time around because the board was HBG controlled. Can you tell me why a CEO would insist on that if they thought a stacked HBG board would let him do his job properly?

"The only thing is, they all got speared over the stadium thing...allegedly."

"Player signings? Only once they were out of the way." We have only signed players at the club after HBG had put in some independent board members?

Why did Richo put in clauses? Don't know. Because he wanted to ensure he worked with Barry O'Farrell? Who knows? Why didn't previous CEO's have those clauses?

You can be as pissy with me as you want. I don't care. I'm not happy Richo left. But, it's not about to change my support of the club. I don't follow the CEO. I hope the next guy is good. And until someone with more clout than HBG takes over the club, I'm not about to let it get me so worked up that every post is akin to the sky falling on my head.

The club existed before Richo & with HBG. It will after Richo & with HBG.

 

[weststigers]

Unless the coaching staff decide they want out, I don't think anything changes for next season at all.

By which time, a new CEO, board & front office will be in place & have an opportunity to put things in place.

Decisions from Bula & Luai MIGHT be impacted, for future seasons. But they were already under some scrutiny anyway.

Yep that's been our problem...a new CEO, board and front office should finally bring success. They'll just slot in and it'll be business as usual...won't take long to totally undo everything the last CEO was building and with HBG board guidance, we'll be flying.

Spare me

 

[The Chad]

It is very difficult to see any promising player, coach or administrator hitching themselves to the club given what has just transpired. It is utter madness.

It’s obviously much deeper than perceptions, but the perceptions also matter. The destruction of brand value (for sponsors) and loyalty (for fans) is very, very serious.

Except that historically HBG have been part of the club & players, managers & administrators have continually signed with the club.

 

[BAGNF05]

"The only thing is, they all got speared over the stadium thing...allegedly."

"Player signings? Only once they were out of the way." We have only signed players at the club after HBG had put in some independent board members?

Why did Richo put in clauses? Don't know. Because he wanted to ensure he worked with Barry O'Farrell? Who knows? Why didn't previous CEO's have those clauses?

You can be as pissy with me as you want. I don't care. I'm not happy Richo left. But, it's not about to change my support of the club. I don't follow the CEO. I hope the next guy is good. And until someone with more clout than HBG takes over the club, I'm not about to let it get me so worked up that every post is akin to the sky falling on my head.

The club existed before Richo & with HBG. It will after Richo & with HBG.

It won’t exist for much longer when it’s being sabotaged.

 

[BeeCeen]

The club existed before Richo & with HBG. It will after Richo & with HBG.

I think the reason for the level of concern is that the second part of your statement might not be true for the long term.

 

[The Chad]

Please help Chad understand no one has any power other than this small group of debenture holders....including any CEO operating under a majority HBG board.

"Please help Chad understand no one has any power other than this small group of debenture holders"

You just made my point.

Chill out. Getting worked up isn't going to change it.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Been silent for a while trying to understand everything that's happened.

This Richo stuff really does suck but it has only increased the outrage to the highest levels against HBG we have ever seen.

Watched the emergency pod this arvo and agreed with everything they said.

Don't give up hope they have gone too far this time and I think they're going to be put in there place finally but don't expect it to happen overnight it will take time to sift through everything.

 

[The Chad]

I think the reason for the level of concern is that the second part of your statement might not be true for the long term.

Based on what? Who has actually said the existence of the club is under threat, other than a few people on here?

 

[The Chad]

It won’t exist for much longer when it’s being sabotaged.

Doesn't 'sabotaged' sound a little like an overreaction?

 

[cochise]

The club existed before Richo & with HBG. It will after Richo & with HBG.

Existed is the right word, because it definitely wasn't successful.