HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[Odessa]

Ive said it before and I'll say it again, if its the logo / emblem thats the problem, Tigers / Magpies- just remove that friction and become something new, whilst acknowledging both original Tigers & Magpies with equivalent shoulder flashes. Dunno what though Im sure people can come up with options. Yonks ago I suggested 'bushrangers' as a neutral, new name.

What about a mythical Creature of some sort I was thinking


Oozlum bird (English) – A satirical creature that flies in ever-decreasing circles until it disappears into its own backside

The one above sounds about right

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

Obviously I don’t have the answers as I don’t know the truth.
1. My understanding based on the statement from DP is the HBG Wests Tigers board members were not kept in the loop, hence why it was considered a major problem.
2. They obviously cannot pass back information that is being kept secret from them.
3. It would be a serious breach of trust if only some Wests Tigers board members are making important decisions without consulting with all of the Wests Tigers board members.

All Wests Tigers board members (including the HBG elected ones) are present at the board meetings so this is just a load of rubbish.

 

[Lestronge]

That is passing judgment based on previous history.

How else do you pass judgement .. if not on history

 

[Vicious]

I actually think HBG have gotten so used to dismissing boards or members, that they didn't understand the gravity of it this time. None of these guys face the media or accountability, so they would tend to live a little bubble.

The fact that they had the CEO, someone who is not involved, face the media says everything to me about these guys. Weak and afraid of their position.

Possibly.
There is also a possibility that others see this and see it as an opportunity to try and take advantage of the situation.

 

[mtd#2]

Obviously I don’t have the answers as I don’t know the truth.
1. My understanding based on the statement from DP is the HBG Wests Tigers board members were not kept in the loop, hence why it was considered a major problem.

Ok so I am just following your lead here...

You are quoting one side and defending it as fact, because why would he lie...

So let's quote the other

“There’s been no issues within our board. There’s never been a vote on our board. It’s always been unanimous,” O’Farrell told Macdonald, adding that the minutes of board meetings did not reflect any Holman Barnes representatives raising concerns about a lack of communication.

So why would he lie?

2. They obviously cannot pass back information that is being kept secret from them.

If a board meets for a vote, then how is it possible for the independent directors to hold a secret vote and exclude members of the board? I don't even think it's legally possible....

3. It would be a serious breach of trust if only some Wests Tigers board members are making important decisions without consulting with all of the Wests Tigers board members.

THe Wests tigers board don't need to consult every single HBG member outside the 2 on the Wests tigers board - that's crazy talk.. It's not how business works... HBG have their 2 representatives on the Wests tigers board for that exact reason..

It's like saying that if I have stocks in Woolworths then they need to consult me on every decision... It's crazy talk bra

 

[TIGERS]

Pretty sure everyone was happy with last years jersey 🤷‍♂️

The Wests Tigers can pick their own damned jerseys. Not some fektards who paid 200 dollars for a debenture in 1988. The footy club gets to decide.

 

[Odessa]

All Wests Tigers board members (including the HBG elected ones) are present at the board meetings so this is just a load of rubbish.

This is so true

Richo reports to the West Tigers board and they make the decisions and if they don't why have a board ?

 

[Vicious]

All Wests Tigers board members (including the HBG elected ones) are present at the board meetings so this is just a load of rubbish.

You know for a fact that the important decisions that DP alluded to were taken to board level ?
It sounded very much like he was insinuating they were not taken to board level and that is the issue.

 

[supercoach]

It is obvious that the HBG were not happy with the internal review and its findings. Also it would appear they reluctantly went along with the recommendations. Only last year Julie Remano ( please excuse the spelling) was trying to pull the rug on the recommendations that were put in place. So now they throw everything out the window by chopping the independent members of the board and revert back to the lame system we had before the review.

If this was something out of the current White House I would not be surprised but to destroy all the great work done in the past 12 months because you basically have a bruised ego is insane. Even if some resolution is found and things revert back to something close to what they were a couple of days ago, our brand name has yet again taken a massive hit and there is a real chance we never recover from it.

The sad thing is if your political party stuffs up you get the chance to vote them out, with HBG you can’t do a thing, they answer to nobody

 

[TIGERS]

We need a god damnned WT Supporters union.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

You know for a fact that the important decisions that DP alluded to were taken to board level ?
It sounded very much like he was insinuating they were not taken to board level and that is the issue.

And you know for a fact that they weren’t?

 

[Vicious]

Ok so I am just following your lead here...

You are quoting one side and defending it as fact, because why would he lie...

So let's quote the other

“There’s been no issues within our board. There’s never been a vote on our board. It’s always been unanimous,” O’Farrell told Macdonald, adding that the minutes of board meetings did not reflect any Holman Barnes representatives raising concerns about a lack of communication.

So why would he lie?




If a board meets for a vote, then how is it possible for the independent directors to hold a secret vote and exclude members of the board? I don't even think it's legally possible....


THe Wests tigers board don't need to consult every single HBG member outside the 2 on the Wests tigers board - that's crazy talk.. It's not how business works... HBG have their 2 representatives on the Wests tigers board for that exact reason..

It's like saying that if I have stocks in Woolworths then they need to consult me on every decision... It's crazy talk bra

You are now assuming what Barry O stated today is true factual information.
The way I interpreted the comments from DP yesterday are very different.
As I keep saying the truth will be revealed and it would not look good for the HBG in the eyes on the NRL if they have lied to suit their own agenda.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Ok now we are getting somewhere. How could they not have been consulted when two HBG reps were board members? Not only were they consulted, as WT board members, but were actively involved in the decisions themselves.

Only if they were present

 

[Lestronge]

You are now assuming what Barry O stated today is true factual information.
The way I interpreted the comments from DP yesterday are very different.
As I keep saying the truth will be revealed and it would not look good for the HBG in the eyes on the NRL if they have lied to suit their own agenda.

I just gave you facts …. They undermine your whole position .

 

[Harvey]

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Sorry @cochise going to call this out.

I won’t debate our current owners are crap, but all versions

HBG would never have gained the dominant shareholder and financial position it holds today if it weren’t for the mismanagement of Kristina Keneally and the Labor Government in 2010.

The old Balmain Leagues Club was forced to close in 2010 to make way for a proposed metro station, a project that never happened.

This closure put enormous financial pressure on Balmain. Ultimately, HBG, under the guise of bailing out Balmain, effectively executed a financial takeover.

What they failed to realise was that this also hurt critical pathways programs in the inner west and Ryde, which in my opinion has contributed to our poor performance since 2010.

I personally can’t see HBG’s behaviour changing anytime soon. What we need is a private consortium genuinely passionate about the Tigers and Magpies to step in and convince the NRL that the current governance by HBG is harming the brand.

I thought Balmain sold that club to developers on the recommendation of a club legend.

 

[mtd#2]

You are now assuming what Barry O stated today is true factual information. The way I interpreted the comments from DP yesterday are very different.

Are you not presenting the comments from DP as fact? Because that's the message you're sending out to everyone here..

 

[Vicious]

And you know for a fact that they weren’t?

No I don’t know the truth, but neither do you or any others that have already made their minds up without knowing the truth.
Very narrow minded way of thinking, just let the truth come out before jumping to conclusions.

 

[Dr_Ice]

You obviously do not understand English, they were not advised of information in which they expected and were entitled to be consulted on.
You believe what you want to believe.

The Independent directors have said that the HBG representatives on the Wests Tigers board were present at all meetings. Therefore, they were there when information was being discussed and part of the decision making process.

The reason why there are HBG board members also on the Wests Tigers board is exactly the reason you keep on mentioning, so that HBG has a say in decisions.

 

[Vicious]

Are you not presenting the comments from DP as fact? Because that's the message you're sending out to everyone here..

How would I know if they are fact or not ?
I just find it ridiculous that everyone is jumping to conclusions with knowing the truth.
It will highly likely work out well for Wests Tigers as it had put the whole HBG sage under the spotlight once again and I don’t think PVL and the NRL will tolerate it if they are telling lies to suit their own agenda.

 

[Telltails]

You are just another imbecile who follows the heard and doesn’t want to have an open mind.
The truth will come out, don’t lose any sleep over it.

Mate we have been dealing with the infighting with this mob for years. They stab each other in the back ahead of the best interests of the club.
No one needs reminding under their control we have never played a finals game and have taken out three wooden spoons - and yet they remain untouchable accept to each other.
The independents had no agenda other to do whats best for WTs and up until yesterday most supporters would have been content with the last twelve months with their involvement. Today on the back of the actions of HBG we find ourselves at war again.