HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

poopy_diaper said:
One fan is just a fan but the fanbase is the entire stakeholder. That is the game of professional sport. The fanbase are unravelled and rightly so. The ambiguity and consistent misalignment is the cause. The fans are right to be pissed off and it is the obligation of the club ownership to appease them and the NRL also view it as their obligation too. The HBG seem not to realise this. The root of the issue right there. You are entitled not to be unraveling but the majority are and they are right to be. The club has a duty of care to it's fanbase as primary and most important stakeholder. HBG care about their debenture holders, Wests members, paid WT members and the rest last. That is a recipe for disarray.
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HBG see us as noise to be ignored...they know better than us.
 
Vicious said:
So you think HBG had nothing to do with any NRL decisions over the past 12 months and every decision was made by the Independent Board without them being involved even though they had 2 representatives on the Independent Board ?
Further tj that is it your belief HBG deliberately want Wests Tigers to fail and if so, what is your theory as to why that would be the case ?
Do you honestly think there is even a 1% chance the NRL club could be rebranded as Westsrn Suburbs Magpies ?
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There is a 90% chance it will definately happen in 2030, They will become the Magpies once again, And by what is being said, Us Wests Tigers supporters will have very little to say about it, Unless someone makes HBG a big financial offer to take over the West Tigers, but I think HBG are a very determined group of people, I think our beloved Wests Tigers are on borrowed time unless the NRL can perform a miracle.
 
Tigerdazz2 said:
So Dennis Burgess follows OVER A HUNDRED (the guy stopped counting) Only Fans accounts of young 20 something to females.

Should he be ANYWHERE NEAR our NRLW players or female staff???
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I am not a big fan of looking for skeletons in the man's closet but if you consider that not long ago fellow debenture holder, board member and staunch Burgess ally Vince Tropiano was accused of harassment it doesn't paint a great picture of the standards these men hold themselves to. Disreputable at minimum.
 
Dennisspicer1 said:
There is a 90% chance it will definately happen in 2030, They will become the Magpies once again, And by what is being said, Us Wests Tigers supporters will have very little to say about it, Unless someone makes HBG a big financial offer to take over the West Tigers, but I think HBG are a very determined group of people, I think our beloved Wests Tigers are on borrowed time unless the NRL can perform a miracle.
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I don't think so...HBG have systematically destroyed any crumb of reputation they had.

The NRL and the rest of the game can see they are the problem. They won't allow it. I'm confident of that.
 
poopy_diaper said:
I am not a big fan of looking for skeletons in the man's closet but if you consider that not long ago fellow debenture holder, board member and staunch Burgess ally Vince Tropiano was accused of harassment it doesn't paint a great picture of the standards these men hold themselves to. Disreputable at minimum.
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If we get really lucky, maybe one the accounts will come forward
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
So there is a strong legal argument against what HBG did, it's just whether the ex directors want to commit the $$$ to pursue the necessary legal action. Am I reading that correctly?

Or NRL just come in and take over citing poor corporate governance.
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As always laws and rules are for the ‘honest’ to obey. Others make their own until they get caught.
 
Wasn't going to throw my 2 cents worth in but can't help myself. To start with , i believe the Barnes Holman group board of directors are a bunch of brain dead morons.They are ruining what was looking like a pretty good season coming up. There is no excuse for this behaviour and these dopes with thier dinosaur agendas have to go. Obviously the voting model for the Board of directors at Wests Ashfield has to be changed to a fairer system where it is easier to get rid of these flogs and get some people with the right perspective to take thier place. On another note, they need to change the name to maybe the Dumb shit Group and stop using the names of two of the greats of the game in Keith Barnes and Keithy Holman , absolute Champions and Gentlemen to boot.
 
Vicious said:
So you think HBG had nothing to do with any NRL decisions over the past 12 months and every decision was made by the Independent Board without them being involved even though they had 2 representatives on the Independent Board ?
Further tj that is it your belief HBG deliberately want Wests Tigers to fail and if so, what is your theory as to why that would be the case ?
Do you honestly think there is even a 1% chance the NRL club could be rebranded as Westsrn Suburbs Magpies ?
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With Denny, and Monty (who WM replaced with Leo Epifania) outnumbered by 4 competent directors, the WT board guided Richo with making definitive and progressive decisions which had led to an increase in memberships and revenue, a stadium plan coming to fruition, and all-round positive reporting of the club in the media by the end of the 2025 season. The club improved in spite of having two WA cronies on the board, because they were outnumbered when it came to any vote or stupid idea they brought to the table. Because we know what happens when their outdated and horrendous considerations and ideas are acted upon. Let's lay them out.

When Wests Magpies had five (4x WA, and 1x WM) of the eight to nine directors (majority) on the WT board in the decade up to the end of the 2023 season, they had complete control of the strategic direction of the club:
- there was little thought to the state of the club's home venue's (taking out a long-term lease at Lidcombe appeared to be the most important agenda regarding home grounds).
- approved the allocation of free memberships to staff, their partners, their dogs, etc to bump up flailing membership numbers but received no income from them.
- sacked several coaches (another couldn't leave the joint quick enough once his old club asked him back) because their due diligence was shit or didn't provide support to them.
- brought back a senile ex-coach who sued the club the last time he was sacked because some journo reckoned it was a good idea.
- signed off on hiring his recruitment guy and approved his idea of signing up a harold matts team to top 30 contracts.
- then went behind the head coach, assistant coach (who was to become the head coach) and the incumbent recruitment guy's back to bring in another recruitment guy who's only real claim is simply having Fulton in his name.
- And all the shit player recruitments they signed off on too.

Shall I go on?

WA had their go and they turned the club into a laughing stock culminating in three wooden spoons to round off their stellar decade long run. It wasn't getting better. They brought the club to it's knees.

You have a bunch of 20 insular karnts who are simply concerned with protecting their own self-interest and agendas, and their stewardship is completely out of touch with fan base of the club. It's a governance system that led to the demise of their precious Magpies in the big league, and that's where they'll send Wests Tigers too. Three recently appointed holders are 'member-elected' Magpie's football club directors.

These cretins don't contribute their hard-earned (we pay more for memberships), they have not brought any success to the club. They are simply protected by a constitution none of them is willing to repeal, but rather back stab each other to protect their own individual fiefdoms within it.

You're either one of the 20 holders, or a relation, to continue to support these dopey-arsed operators.
 
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tigahhh said:
omg it’s because of the independent board !!!!!! the one year we had them was the one year we had improved results. you can’t be serious
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The team and coach was actually assembled by hbg
The only signing I believe was may midyear under the new board , or are you saying because who is the actual board members determines if players play shit ?
 
FacePalm said:
With Denny, and Monty (who WM replaced with Leo Epifania) outnumbered by 4 competent directors, the WT board guided Richo with making definitive and progressive decisions which had led to an increase in memberships and revenue, a stadium plan coming to fruition, and all-round positive reporting of the club in the media by the end of the 2025 season. The club improved in spite of having two WA cronies on the board, because they were outnumbered when it came to any vote or stupid idea they brought to the table. Because we know what happens when their outdated and horrendous considerations and ideas are acted upon. Let's lay them out.

When Wests Magpies had five (4x WA, and 1x WM) of the eight to nine directors (majority) on the WT board in the decade up to the end of the 2023 season, they had complete control of the strategic direction of the club:
- there was little thought to the state of the club's home venue's (taking out a long-term lease at Lidcombe appeared to be the most important agenda regarding home grounds).
- approved the allocation of free memberships to staff, their partners, their dogs, etc to bump up flailing membership numbers but received no income from them.
- sacked several coaches (another couldn't leave the joint quick enough once his old club asked him back) because their due diligence was shit or didn't provide support to them.
- brought back a senile ex-coach who sued the club the last time he was sacked because some journo reckoned it was a good idea.
- signed off on hiring his recruitment guy and approved his idea of signing up a harold matts team to top 30 contracts.
- then went behind the head coach, assistant coach (who was to become the head coach) and the incumbent recruitment guy's back to bring in another recruitment guy who's only real claim is simply having Fulton in his name.
- And all the shit player recruitments they signed off on too.

Shall I go on?

WA had their go and they turned the club into a laughing stock culminating in three wooden spoons to round off their stellar decade long run. It wasn't getting better. They brought the club to it's knees.

You have a bunch of 20 insular karnts who are simply concerned with protecting their own self-interest and agendas, and their stewardship is completely out of touch with fan base of the club. It's a governance system that led to the demise of their precious Magpies in the big league, and that's where they'll send Wests Tigers too. Three recently appointed holders are 'member-elected' Magpie's football club directors.

These cretins don't contribute their hard-earned (we pay more for memberships), they have not brought any success to the club. They are simply protected by a constitution none of them is willing to repeal, but rather back stab each other to protect their own individual fiefdoms within it.

You're either one of the 19 holders (i'd say Romero isn't a fan anymore unless she's given it up like Gilbert did), or a relation, to continue to support these dopey-arsed operators.
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well said 👍
 
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