Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...

@cktiger said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235517) said:
Let's be brutally honest about this year.
Our best player was a reserve grader we got on loan.
We had over $2 million of cap money (Packer, McQueen, Reynolds) being totally wasted.
Our pack boasts maybe 2 or 3 blokes who would get in another top 17.
We have 3 useless halfbacks.
Our outside backs would get maybe 3 starters in another top 17.
We have no real standout or star - we are relying on glimpses from an overcooked 35 year old.
Thank god for Madge - we really should have been fighting out the spoon.

I agree with everything except the last part, I'd say thank God for the overcooked 35 yo with the most try assists in the NRL.
 
@Spacecub said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235562) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235514) said:
Weekly madge bash thread

I'm convinced your Maguires love child?

nah i just believe in him as a coach and i like the way he does things

i dont have pictures on the wall of him like geo does of brooks tho
 
@Geo said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235619) said:
lol...wd sunk to happy level..

dont understand.... did he throw all his toys out of the cot and quit the forum over a player leaving?
 
I am not pro madge, just pro not changing the coach yet just enhances the image that the players have the power.

I think madge is the guy to drive some professional culture in our team, he may not be the one who wins our next premiership.

eg. if Bellamy left the storm, i don't think the storm would go to crap such would be the culture of the team for a period of time anyway.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1234500) said:
I am trying to keep the faith....but I am starting to 'only' see a conservative coach who acts tough and intense...but I don't see any strategy, any game plans, or any defensive structure. Our goal line D is atrocious. Our attack is basically just throw it around when the game is cooked.

Was really hoping that 'we will use this time to plan for 2021' presser was going to be a turning point. But, no, somehow we have Lawrence at center instead of giving Talau vital time there. A washed up vet who can't move sideways given a game when we have young centers who 'need' time. Makes no sense.

No one blooded...no experimenting in games that are dead rubbers.

I will wait until 2021 to really judge, but I don't see much to give hope...and I have been in Madge's corner since day one. Absolutely nothing has been gained from these past few games that will help for 2021.

Get down 20 and then throw it around after the opp go to sleep is not a game plan. There has been massive regression since the Parra game.

Someone restore my faith. Please.

Thanks for the post because the question seriously needs to be asked. Where are we going as a team? Judging by the way the team played last night they don't seem to know either and that is worrying.

If you want positives then I'd say along with the rest of the office they're identifying good players and seem to be attracting them to the club. Also, there aren't a lot of good coaches in the league, period (Bellamy, Bennett, Robinson, probs Cleary and Stuart). If nothing else he'll help to get us rebuilt and make us more attractive for an actual coach with recent real success to take over.

I am shocked at our steps backward from last season though and it would be a very unconventional turnaround as a team from here were it to work.
 
I look at this way, does anyone seriously thinks that if we had Bellamy, Robinson or Bennett this season with our roster & back office staff that they would of coached the squad into the top 8 this season?
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235660) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235659) said:
I look at this way, does anyone seriously thinks that if we had Bellamy, Robinson or Bennett this season with our roster & back office staff that they would of coached the squad into the top 8 this season?

Who in the "back office staff" are you blaming?

I'm still not sold on the barber.
 
People who reckon its not in majority due to the cattle need to watch more NRL from other teams. The Raiders can play very unstructured footy, even total ad-lib for long periods and annihilate teams through individual brilliance. Regardless of what the coach does, having Aloiai Clark and Eisenhuth running at you is very different to having Papali Tapane and Bateman running at you. And lets not even speak of what the edges and the spine are going to throw at you.
And before you need your defensive line to hold, you actually have to stop them rolling systematically down the field through the middle.
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235663) said:
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235661) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235660) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235659) said:
I look at this way, does anyone seriously thinks that if we had Bellamy, Robinson or Bennett this season with our roster & back office staff that they would of coached the squad into the top 8 this season?

Who in the "back office staff" are you blaming?

I'm still not sold on the barber.

Sorry mate, I don't get it. Who's the barber?

A position in the bubble and long term at the COE. You know giving the boys their haircuts. Blame the barber.
 
@mike said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235672) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235663) said:
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235661) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235660) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235659) said:
I look at this way, does anyone seriously thinks that if we had Bellamy, Robinson or Bennett this season with our roster & back office staff that they would of coached the squad into the top 8 this season?

Who in the "back office staff" are you blaming?

I'm still not sold on the barber.

Sorry mate, I don't get it. Who's the barber?

A position in the bubble and long term at the COE. You know giving the boys their haircuts. Blame the barber.

I'm still confused how we don't have a halves coach but have a barber. Any hoo were apparently improving.
 
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235682) said:
@mike said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235672) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235663) said:
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235661) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235660) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235659) said:
I look at this way, does anyone seriously thinks that if we had Bellamy, Robinson or Bennett this season with our roster & back office staff that they would of coached the squad into the top 8 this season?

Who in the "back office staff" are you blaming?

I'm still not sold on the barber.

Sorry mate, I don't get it. Who's the barber?

A position in the bubble and long term at the COE. You know giving the boys their haircuts. Blame the barber.

I'm still confused how we don't have a halves coach but have a barber. Any hoo were apparently improving.

No point appearing in highlight videos unless you’re sporting an on trend salon cut.
 
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235682) said:
@mike said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235672) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235663) said:
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235661) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235660) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235659) said:
I look at this way, does anyone seriously thinks that if we had Bellamy, Robinson or Bennett this season with our roster & back office staff that they would of coached the squad into the top 8 this season?

Who in the "back office staff" are you blaming?

I'm still not sold on the barber.

Sorry mate, I don't get it. Who's the barber?

A position in the bubble and long term at the COE. You know giving the boys their haircuts. Blame the barber.

I'm still confused how we don't have a halves coach but have a barber. Any hoo were apparently improving.

i'd say spending a couple of hundred on a barber a week is a little cheaper than the halves coach. I'd like to see us get Matty Johns in to work with the halves though.
 
The only help I can offer is enjoy the cricket season and try hypnotherapy. My therapist managed to convince me I was Tedesco until I looked in the mirror and saw that my teeth weren't reclaimed from a zebra. Was a nice few minutes though...
 
@cochise said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235695) said:
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235682) said:
@mike said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235672) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235663) said:
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235661) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235660) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235659) said:
I look at this way, does anyone seriously thinks that if we had Bellamy, Robinson or Bennett this season with our roster & back office staff that they would of coached the squad into the top 8 this season?

Who in the "back office staff" are you blaming?

I'm still not sold on the barber.

Sorry mate, I don't get it. Who's the barber?

A position in the bubble and long term at the COE. You know giving the boys their haircuts. Blame the barber.

I'm still confused how we don't have a halves coach but have a barber. Any hoo were apparently improving.

i'd say spending a couple of hundred on a barber a week is a little cheaper than the halves coach. I'd like to see us get Matty Johns in to work with the halves though.

Cheaper yes. I just thought you would fill the important roles first.
 
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235715) said:
@cochise said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235695) said:
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235682) said:
@mike said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235672) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235663) said:
@gallagher said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235661) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235660) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235659) said:
I look at this way, does anyone seriously thinks that if we had Bellamy, Robinson or Bennett this season with our roster & back office staff that they would of coached the squad into the top 8 this season?

Who in the "back office staff" are you blaming?

I'm still not sold on the barber.

Sorry mate, I don't get it. Who's the barber?

A position in the bubble and long term at the COE. You know giving the boys their haircuts. Blame the barber.

I'm still confused how we don't have a halves coach but have a barber. Any hoo were apparently improving.

i'd say spending a couple of hundred on a barber a week is a little cheaper than the halves coach. I'd like to see us get Matty Johns in to work with the halves though.

Cheaper yes. I just thought you would fill the important roles first.

We did try to get Daley into a role but the NRL knocked us back.
 

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