@bbobb said in [Help me \(and others\) keep faith in Madge\.\.\.](/post/1235142) said:
To me he looks like a coach who has run out of ideas. From the point he went postal in the dressing room and abused a chair, he has been struggling. I also think the so called “honesty” session has thrown him as well. I sought of thought that player communication was an area where he excelled and to be publicly called out on it may be bit confronting? He is desperate to shed some players and bring some new talent which is fair enough. I hope it works for him because after that, I am not sure what he’ll do?
I think we should all just hold our nerve. We didn’t achieve this level of mediocrity in 5 minutes, so why should we expect to turn it around in 5 minutes. Our older, more experienced hang abouts are not living up to their price tags. And are certainly not showing any quality leadership for younger players. They will be gone over the next 2 seasons along with our precious goal of finishing ninth. This level of mediocrity has taken nine seasons to establish.
Madge is in his 2nd season and things have actually gone backwards.
When I rate this season compared to last we seem a very ill disciplined side as another din bin last night!
His communication very poor with Benji and lacks leadership qualities, difficult conversation I agree but harps in about standards and needs to set the benchmark himself.
Agree needs more time personally I give him two years but he also needs to mature and get better himself if has the same expectations of the squad.
It is very hard to have that conversation when it is already splashed over the papers the day before the scheduled meeting.
He had made the decision, someone around him was in the know and leaked it. when confronted by Benji from reports said give me 24 hours to think it over. I am assuming Benji told Manager and story was leaked??
Conversation should have been this is my decision moving forward and the reasons why when confronted. Leadership nil sane as what we have on the field.
There is one thing about all the articles about Madge that I can't reconcile. Apparently he is too tough on the players, I have know a lot of tough managers and coaches over the years and not one of them had trouble having a tough conversation. In fact most of them were much too blunt and weren't able to deliver bad news in a manner that didn't get people offside.
I really don’t read into how tough he is on the players as long as it’s also balanced for the welfare of whole team.
We are talking about how Madge managed the Benji situation and it was pretty poor.
I do agree with the decision but not how if was mis managed and the way he found out.
If you talk the talk you need to have conversations that are transparent and timing of these is also critical.
Madge mis managed this process that also effects the culture of the club.
I don't think it played out the way it you think it did.
Well if you know more enlighten your fellow forum members ?
It played out terrible !!!!
It played out terrible in the media, but how did it get into the media? What is the spin that was placed on it because of the source? That all changes how I perceive what happened.
The source would of made nil difference if the Coach once making his decision has an honest frank conversation with the player,
This is the coaches responsibility as it’s their decision.
The club now has reacted to this by offering a job because of the fall out, not that I have any issue with this as long as tabled as per NRL guidelines prior to the offer.
That conversation has happened as Benji has been informed he will not be playing at Wests Tigers in 2021.
Are you sure you don’t work for the club in some capacity? if not your getting tiresome to debate with as your counter point abilities just go back and forth with little real outcome.
Think I will pass conversing with you in future do me the favour and don’t reply to any future posts either, cheers
