Home Ground situation needs to change

[hammertime]

It's not ideal mate, but we're not going to get stadium funding and CSS just doesn't have the data to back it.

 

[hammertime]

So a few years at WSS and a year or so at the re-vamped ANZ? So, as much as I respect your reasoning, 5 or so years to determine a potential home-ground advantage for WT?? Isn't that too long or am I being selfish in wanting it in my lifetime?

It's a fair comment mate, but the way I look at it. We're already at WSS, so it's only 1 change back to ANZ, possibly 2 if WSS turns out the better option.

I don't think the important thing is setting in stone our ground immediately but increasing the games at 1 ground. Something we can call ours, alongside our COE.

If we're going to decide on something for the long term of our club. It needs to be done right or the debate will rage on forever. You can see all the differing opinions here.

And we need to at least wait on ANZ before we choose.

P.s. Hope you've got longer to go than 5 years by the way!

 

[hammertime]

I still stick with the idea of an upgraded Campbelltown Stadium though. Not because it's in Campbelltown, but the fact that many people know and love it already and would have to be easier to upgrade it than start all over again somewhere else.
It will be a real $$$ spinner for whichever Council is smart enough to take Our Wests Tigers on cheers :relaxed:

Hey mate, the biggest problem with cambo isn't actually things like the crowd, despite that being an issue, it's the corporate sponsorship. You need to have multiple sports at one ground so you can sell things like corporate boxes and signage. ANZ would attract say Lion Nathan, while cambo might get the local engineering firm. That's why we get paid money at ANZ, but lose at cambo. Corporates are key here. If we play at cambo, we'll lose money hand over fist.

 

[gallagher]

Why are we talking about BankWest like we pack it out and deriding ANZ for poor attendances in the same breath? All games we’ve played at BW have been poorly attended and it’s patently obvious on television as well.

No one has mentioned crowds apart from saying that ANZ is too big.

more money to the club to play there and no one being shut out I’d be all for it.

I doubt ANZ would mean more money to the club as the grounds are operated by the same mob and I would guess they would prefer us to play at BW.


No one here, from what I can tell and I certainly don’t, has any knowledge of what the actual arrangements are. These will go a long way in determining which is the most profitable as a home ground. It could be a no brainer.

And hopefully that decides the issue. Not spiritual, local area, history crap.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Football Australia don't have the money to kick in '63.

Much less a borderline regional startup like Macarthur FC.

 

[BZN]

@cochise :relaxed: : I know full well from what you have written you give all your heart and soul to Our Wests Tigers. And good onya for being that kinda bloke that wants to see Wests Tigers survive so your grandkids can become just as passionate as you are.
Just one thing though re BankWest Stadium. I doubt Our supporters will ever regard it as Our home ground.
If plans had been put into place in the 'initial' planning stage to involve Us along with Parra as equal partners, then I feel the 'shared stadium' would have been a 'great idea' and a real goer. But for whatever reason, it appears we weren't involved so it's now Parras home turf I'm afraid. I would think they probably look down on us as the poor cousin paying rent to play at their place, so I say stuff em. I feel Our fans are probably used to sharing at A.N.Z though by now. So if I had to choose between BankWest and A.N.Z. my choice has to be A.N.Z. :relaxed:

 

[cochise]

I feel Our fans are probably used to sharing at A.N.Z though by now. So if I had to choose between BankWest and A.N.Z. my choice has to be A.N.Z.

Genuine question, have you attended games there?

 

[BZN]

@cochise: I have to admit I have never been to A.N.Z. as a spectator. In fact, the only part of the Olympic area I have been to was when I was lucky enough to be chosen by State Transit Buses as one of the drivers to take wheelchair athletes from all around the world to a basketball tournament there around the time of the Olympics.
I have gathered though from many posts on this forum that the place doesn't have a soul when only 1/4 full. I feel when the seating is rejigged it may well be a big improvement particularly when We are winning a majority of our games [as another member said].
The last time I watched Our Wests Tigers play was probably 20 years ago when I drove to Canberra and back in the one day. I had an excellent seat on the 1/2 way line but pretty well to the back of the main stand though [too far from the action for me]. I found the seating to be squashy and I froze my nuts off due to the cold. Luckily We thrashed :v: The Raiders that day:relaxed: . See Yuh :relaxed:

 

[Krammy]

Being an old Tigers fan I loved Leichhardt Oval. However, I agree with posts that if we cling to traditional suburban grounds our club will not survive in Sydney. To survive as a Sydney based club we need to stay with the times. This will only happen with being a profitable club, offering modern, comfortable facilities to fans at home games, alongside clever marketing and astute player and financial management. The days of the chook raffle are gone. Part of getting to this level of professionalism is playing out of a modern facility. I think the revamped ANZ should be our home.

 

[tigerbalm]

long term out of hombush full time ala Richmond, Pies, Hawks etc.. out of MCG.

LO is just not up to scratch. CSS has the bones to be redeveloped into something great but waiting for that to happen is just crazy and most likely pointless.

Long term commitment to ANZ. Full time. No parra, no CSS, no LO. The one country game has to stay but the remainder out of a single venue. One ground and winning games. Winning games will bring the crowds. We've all seen what crowds wests can draw to the big stadiums.

W

 

[TrueTiger]

long term out of hombush full time ala Richmond, Pies, Hawks etc.. out of MCG.

LO is just not up to scratch. CSS has the bones to be redeveloped into something great but waiting for that to happen is just crazy and most likely pointless.

Long term commitment to ANZ. Full time. No parra, no CSS, no LO. The one country game has to stay but the remainder out of a single venue. One ground and winning games. Winning games will bring the crowds. We've all seen what crowds wests can draw to the big stadiums.

W

I would love to see the final revamp of ANZ with it being more crowd friendly with the size of the place at the moment 20/25 thousand gives it a non plus atmosphere...closer to the game and supporters then it will be a good stadium...that is what we need,a home ground with atmosphere,our jungle 20/25 would be like a capacity at a suburban ground instead of 1/4 filling the place...

 

[cochise]

I would love to see the final revamp of ANZ with it being more crowd friendly with the size of the place at the moment 20/25 thousand gives it a non plus atmosphere…closer to the game and supporters then it will be a good stadium…that is what we need,a home ground with atmosphere,our jungle 20/25 would be like a capacity at a suburban ground instead of 1/4 filling the place…

I don't know how we make a ground our home ground when it will be less than 1/4 full for the majority of our games!

 

[Snake]

@cochise Does not matter if it was the most soulless place on the planet as long as it is not the new stadium built with there money in Parramatta .. it is becoming apparent why this club will never amount to much !

 

[Furious1]

Well it sounds like the majority on here would like ANZ to be our home.

 

[BZN]

G'day @Krammy: excellent post, very well written with many good and sensible ideas.
I've been bangin on about making an upgraded Campbelltown Stadium Our home ground, but if this doesn't happen I reckon ANZ will do until We do find somewhere better to call Our Jungle :v: :relaxed:

 

[tigerbalm]

Well it sounds like the majority on here would ***like*** ANZ to be our home.

I think ***settle for*** would be a better way of describing it.

 

[BZN]

G'day @cochise: As you know I have never been to ANZ so I am not familiar with the seating arrangements. I haven't taken a great deal of notice up till now, but it looks to me when I watch on tv the fans are scattered all around the ground. If that is the case couldn't the behind the goal posts seating be closed, so that then condenses the fans to both sides of the field only. Maybe this could give the place more atmosphere and you wouldn't have to sit in a row by yourself.
Once the renovations are complete, I will be very interested to check the joint out and cheer on Our Wests Tigers to a win. All the best Cochise :relaxed:

 

[TieDye]

@MAGPIES1963 it’s the easiest thing to be done and is what they’ve been trying (and horribly failing) to do at BankWest so far, this coming from one bloke who’s been to every game !

ANZ has HD it’s fair share of soulless evenings of football but think that’s clearly more to do with quality of service out there, the area around the stadium - which has actually improved a lot over the past 5 to 10 years - and the fact the facilities themselves don’t match other larger grounds.

Once those minor things are needles out then it’s a no-brainer for mine. Thanks @cochise & @MAGPIES1963 for some seriously valuable chat about something that must be the club’s first prerogative in moving forward to its rightful position on the ‘throne’ of the West.

 

[cqtiger]

As I understand it the state Liberal gov’t went to the election with their 3 stadia policy with opponents in Labor and headliners like Peter Fitzsimons drumming up bad press by highlighting the excessive costs involved. The Libs sought and received the backing of the NRL for this policy. I thought the Sydney based clubs were canvassed about their preferences of playing out of these three stadiums - upgraded ANZ, upgraded Alliance and a new BankWest stadium.

The Libs made it plain that no money would be available for suburban grounds. The next election is a long way off.

I’m not sure of all those clubs deciding to play where but Roosters, Souths, Tigers, Bulldogs, Eels, Dragons and even Manly were talked about.

There is a lot of talk about Tigers fans not wanting BW as our home ground because it is looked upon as Parras true home ground. I tend to agree and point to Souths as preferring ANZ to Alliance because they don’t to have anything to do with Easts home ground.

Of course not everything goes to plan, for example, Alliance was supposed to be upgraded but now has been demolished for a completely new stadium.

Does anyone remember where the NRL preferred clubs to play from which grounds?

 

[Harvey]

@cochise Does not matter if it was the most soulless place on the planet as long as it is not the new stadium built with there money in Parramatta .. it is becoming apparent why this club will never amount to much !

All of your posts make it clear that you love Parramatta stadium. You may have even been one of the fans that have helped pack 1/3 of the capacity in for the couple of (admittedly poorly scheduled) home games there.

I reckon you should start a petition, or maybe a protest/picket at the home games we play at other stadiums.

We are currently playing out of Parramatta, but you seem to suggest that the fact our fans dislike it means that the club is doomed.

From reading the posts on this thread it appears that the majority support most of our games being played out of single home ground. They just don’t want it to be Parramatta.