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Canterbury Bulldogs star Will Hopoate will not play or train on Sundays because of his staunch devotion to his Mormon faith.

**Hopoate will sit out three straight Sunday games in rounds 10, 11 and 12 against the Wests Tigers, Roosters and Canberra Raiders and is unsure whether he will play in the grand final if the Bulldogs go through to the decider.**
The NSW State of Origin star has the full backing of coach Des Hasler and his teammates, whom he informed of his decision at a team meeting at Belmore this week.

Read more at http://www.zerotackle.com/hopoate-will-not-play-rugby-league-on-sundays-21224/#BsRickPgbPIRZ82Z.99
 
Well, that can only benefit us - because he is a dangerous player when he wants to be.

However, what a joke.
Hazem & Sonny played through Ramadam but who am I to judge, lol…
Seems a bit soft tho.
 
I wonder what his teammates think of it?
Especially not turning up to Sunday training sessions.
 
@Demps said:
Well, that can only benefit us - because he is a dangerous player when he wants to be.

However, what a joke.
**Hazem & Sonny played through Ramadam** but who am I to judge, lol…
Seems a bit soft tho.
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it is different circumstances

Ramadan - can't eat or drink, can go ahead with normal day to day routine
Mormon - not allowed to work on Sundays, not allowed to encourage working, for instance you can't go shopping because you are allowing other people to work. I am not sure what the reason behind this is but i would assume that Sunday is the day dedicated to the lord.

Big difference and it would have been in Hopoates contract that he is not to play Sundays, this was one of the major reasons Parra reneged on their offer.
 
If I may digress, in chess some devout Jewish players interpret their religion that they cannot play or work on the Sabbath of Saturday. And as there is prize money in chess tourneys that is considered as work. So they get around it by having an assistant write down the moves (as is required under chess laws) and then presumably it is only a game or something like that. I always thought a distraction to the opposing player's concentration so not fair. With a bit of innovation and Christian lawyers surely they can find a loophole. But strictly speaking he should decide if he is a professional player or not.
 
@Milky said:
@Demps said:
Well, that can only benefit us - because he is a dangerous player when he wants to be.

However, what a joke.
**Hazem & Sonny played through Ramadam** but who am I to judge, lol…
Seems a bit soft tho.

it is different circumstances

Ramadan - can't eat or drink, can go ahead with normal day to day routine
Mormon - not allowed to work on Sundays, not allowed to encourage working, for instance you can't go shopping because you are allowing other people to work. I am not sure what the reason behind this is but i would assume that Sunday is the day dedicated to the lord.

Big difference and it would have been in Hopoates contract that he is not to play Sundays, this was one of the major reasons Parra reneged on their offer.
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lol, can't play Sunday football.
Grand final is on Sunday…..

Be a devout Mormon
or
Be a superstar high paid Athlete,
pick one.

This seems a bit funny to me but then again, so does spending $80 a week on ciggarettes - but hey, I'm not a smoker.

Lost for words.
 
@Milky said:
@Demps said:
Well, that can only benefit us - because he is a dangerous player when he wants to be.

However, what a joke.
**Hazem & Sonny played through Ramadam** but who am I to judge, lol…
Seems a bit soft tho.

it is different circumstances

Ramadan - can't eat or drink, can go ahead with normal day to day routine
Mormon - not allowed to work on Sundays, not allowed to encourage working, for instance you can't go shopping because you are allowing other people to work. I am not sure what the reason behind this is but i would assume that Sunday is the day dedicated to the lord.

Big difference and it would have been in Hopoates contract that he is not to play Sundays, this was one of the major reasons Parra reneged on their offer.
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Can't eat or drink…..
Play an 80 minute high intensity competetive sport.
.... dedication.

Can't work on a Sunday....
I know football is his "job" but..... maybe he plays it for fun to?
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Don't remeber seeing Inu, Izzy, etc - pulling this stunt?
 
Michael Jones the ex All Black great never played Sundays either

Personally you have to respect someone who puts their religion before their love of a game /career
 
@Demps said:
@Milky said:
@Demps said:
Well, that can only benefit us - because he is a dangerous player when he wants to be.

However, what a joke.
**Hazem & Sonny played through Ramadam** but who am I to judge, lol…
Seems a bit soft tho.

it is different circumstances

Ramadan - can't eat or drink, can go ahead with normal day to day routine
Mormon - not allowed to work on Sundays, not allowed to encourage working, for instance you can't go shopping because you are allowing other people to work. I am not sure what the reason behind this is but i would assume that Sunday is the day dedicated to the lord.

Big difference and it would have been in Hopoates contract that he is not to play Sundays, this was one of the major reasons Parra reneged on their offer.

Can't eat or drink…..
Play an 80 minute high intensity competetive sport.
.... dedication.

Can't work on a Sunday....
I know football is his "job" but..... maybe he plays it for fun to?
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Don't remeber seeing Inu, Izzy, etc - pulling this stunt?
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He might be playing it for fun, but him playing is encouraging other players to play who are in it for the money, it is also encouraging the people in the food stands, the people in the ticket boxes to work etc.

It is a part of his religion and it should be respected.

Do i agree with it? No i don't, but it is what it is.
 
Thank Christ he doesn't play for WT then.

What an insane situation.

I'm gonna tell my boss that my religion excludes me from working Sunday through Saturday….........
 
@Fade To Black said:
Thank Christ he doesn't play for WT then.

What an insane situation.

I'm gonna tell my boss that my religion excludes me from working Sunday through Saturday….........
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You're fired !
 
He seems a sincere young man. Personally I think it's ridiculous but I'm not going to criticise or denigrate his religious beliefs. I certainly don't think his stance is the easy option to take.
 
Any of you blokes giving Hoppa curry over this, do you honestly think this has been a decision made lightly?

He took TWO YEARS away from the game at a loss of probably 1-1.5 million. Over the limited timeframe he has to have that kind of earning capacity, that's massive money.

He knew the public furore this would cause,and the negative light it would cast him in.

Good on him for sticking to his beliefs and to his guns.
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Having said that, if the Bulldogs make the Grand Final and he runs on the field to play that game, all respect garnered for him would be lost.
 
I just wonder whether the Bulldogs knew of this stance before they signed him? Seems very strange…...imagine if he was absolutely tearing games apart in the finals ala Hayne '09 and then he refuses to play on GF day. As a supporter I would be spewing TBH with that situation. It could cost you a GF that's for sure.
 
@underdog said:
Any of you blokes giving Hoppa curry over this, do you honestly think this has been a decision made lightly?

He took TWO YEARS away from the game at a loss of probably 1-1.5 million. Over the limited timeframe he has to have that kind of earning capacity, that's massive money.

He knew the public furore this would cause,and the negative light it would cast him in.

Good on him for sticking to his beliefs and to his guns.
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Having said that, if the Bulldogs make the Grand Final and he runs on the field to play that game, all respect garnered for him would be lost.
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Wouldn't he have been compensated by the church ?
Obviously not to the extent of his lost earnings , but to take 2 years off to spread the word , surley he would have received some financial aid ?
 
There's no I in team. If you wanna put your faith before your team sport then choose a sport where you don't let down others I say.
If it was good enough to play in 2015 it's good enough in 2016
 
@tigers05 said:
There's no I in team. If you wanna put your faith before your team sport then choose a sport where you don't let down others I say.
If it was good enough to play in 2015 it's good enough in 2016
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Well the Dogs can probably terminate his contract but they don't seem too concerned about it

Its only Hopoate , no biggie …......
 
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