How pathetic is our club?

[Tigermama]

Seems like a bit of a dummy spit over being asked to play 6\. He should have just thought of it like a Fittler/Bird type of 6 and ran with it.

I am sure he has underlying issues and I would agree that having Halatau help him through it is not the worst idea but inversely it looks terrible on Taylor that Sita feels like that on top of Marty wanting to leave and Faalogo belting him. I wonder if Taylor and the polynesian boys don't get along well? Simona wasn't performing the best this season and Liolevave was overlooked in favour of Buchanan, Santi and Lovett… Does seem strange to me. Then there is the continued murmurs about him not rating Salesi Funaki. Letting Te Maire walk...

I would hope it isn't a racial thing.

Well he did get knocked out by a Polynesian…Maybe JT holds grudges. :mrgreen:

 

[crusader]

And the author?

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Why does it matter? Its full of direct quotes.

I guess youve never heard of selective quoting.
Look it up.

While I feel for Akoula, …no....I dont really, thousand would give their left one to be in his shoes.....him saying he feels ashamed hes dropped form the 25 is a bit reflective of today generation, I mean it sounds like its the worst thing thats ever happened to him, a result of every player getting an award and conratulated just for participating, the first sign of negativity or trouble and its the end of the world.

I wouldnt put much stock in anything Weidler puts his name to and its quite interesting the majority here is so eager to take his word as gospel when more often than not he is condemned and ridiculed by those same people as a fabricating BS artist

Weve heard Lote, Blair, Fafits extolling the virtues of there new, profesional clubs after leaving us. Its nothing new.
The Broncos & Roosters probably have full time psychiatrists and psychologist on their payroll, we'd have the number for LifeLine on the dressing room wall

If selective quoting had a team, you'd be the captain , coach and water boy.
" I wouldnt put much stock in anything Weidler puts his name to "
That's selective quoting.
The article is not an opinion piece, it's full of direct quotes .
The fact that Taylor has asked Halatau to keep an eye on him means that he has seen something that suggested not all is right. And Taylor did nothing. Maybe he should have at least dialled that Lifeline number from the dressing room sticker as you say

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[innsaneink]

Yet we have Halatau, Nofo, Simona, Sue, Tauapu, Ava, Naiquama, Cherrington all playing regulalry all year, yep that JT hes a redneck too

 

[innsaneink]

And the author?

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Why does it matter? Its full of direct quotes.

I guess youve never heard of selective quoting.
Look it up.

While I feel for Akoula, …no....I dont really, thousand would give their left one to be in his shoes.....him saying he feels ashamed hes dropped form the 25 is a bit reflective of today generation, I mean it sounds like its the worst thing thats ever happened to him, a result of every player getting an award and conratulated just for participating, the first sign of negativity or trouble and its the end of the world.

I wouldnt put much stock in anything Weidler puts his name to and its quite interesting the majority here is so eager to take his word as gospel when more often than not he is condemned and ridiculed by those same people as a fabricating BS artist

Weve heard Lote, Blair, Fafits extolling the virtues of there new, profesional clubs after leaving us. Its nothing new.
The Broncos & Roosters probably have full time psychiatrists and psychologist on their payroll, we'd have the number for LifeLine on the dressing room wall

If selective quoting had a team, you'd be the captain , coach and water boy.
" I wouldnt put much stock in anything Weidler puts his name to "
That's selective quoting.
The article is not an opinion piece, it's full of direct quotes .
The fact that Taylor has asked Halatau to keep an eye on him means that he has seen something that suggested not all is right. And Taylor did nothing. Maybe he should have at least dialled that Lifeline number from the dressing room sticker as you say

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You clearly dont understand selective quoting.
Go away

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The fact that Taylor has asked Halatau to keep an eye on him means that he has seen something that suggested not all is right. And Taylor did nothing. _Posted using RoarFEED 4.2.0_

He did nothing? I thought he asked Halatau to keep an eye on him?

 

[tig_prmz]

the club is pathetic in its own right. however, there is plenty of patheticness everywhere in this thread. the people being talked about, the author and even some of the posters.

sita said some very important things- all clubs, all coaches, all CEOs, all players and their families should take note of that.

gonna ignore the 'days of our lives' episode and wish akaoula luck in his future endeavours. he was very good while playing for us last year imo. ran so hard and could offload at will but reckon missed the 1%ers that people talk about.

 

[Tigermama]

What did you want him to do????

Who? Taylor? Well for a start, as head coach, how about approaching Akaoula himself, having a meaningful chat and finding out what the problems are and how the club can help him - you know, perhaps offering to discuss with the player and his coach about the best position to play him in or asking him if he would like some sort of professional help and providing it. You know, those sorts of things - it's not that hard really and I think that responsibility should lie with the head coach.

Dene and Keith are NRL State of Mind Ambassadors. They have Mental Health First Aid training and qualifications. But i agree with you Flip that Taylor should have been more involved in this potentially serious situation.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Increasingly, I am of the view that our club is a microcosm of our society.
By the way, just how much was Jason Taylor involved in this potentially serious situation? In what ways should he have been more involved?

 

[Tigermama]

This article is so damning for the club is not funny.
JT pushed this man almost to breaking point. With Mosese still very much still in our thoughts and prayers. He felt depressed not because he is weak or selfish, but because he felt he was letting his team mates down.
JT asked Halatau to keep an eye on him??? Dene is champion guys but he is no councillor . He doesn't know the signs. He doesn't know which questions to ask. We get sent many young KIDS from New Zealand from their families with great hopes for their kids. Parents may be reluctant to place their trust in our club.
JT is a terrible man manager and showing in everything he is doing.
We will lose Marty, Moses, Woods and maybe more whilst we have this imposter as head coach.
We came equal last this year and we are losing key players with valuable experience . Next year will be our darkest in our short history. JT will get axed between now and then but the damage will be done . How much damage he is allowed to do is the question. There are people on this forum that support him no matter what. So expect some cracking comments below. Good luck

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Crusader Dene and Keith are both trained in Mental Health Awareness.

 

[Eddie]

Rod Reddy the dinosaur was bought in to help improve morale for players in the state cup etc, keep them in the loop.

Thats how it they described his role in the pre season.

Everyone knows he is a dinosaur who offers nothing so this sort of stuff is not really a surprise, but pretty sad.

And together with Taylor, who seems about as popular as cancer seem like they have an unhappy camp and a club captain/legend who has been treated poorly. Taupau wants out etc.

What a mess this club is.

So we're throwing what one two bit radio personality said into all this, (without any source btw) and we're going to add it into everything else.

Sounds legit.

Sorry,

Everything is going great in Tiger town…..

So you can confirm that Taupau ''wants out''?

Where there is smoke there is fire.

Can you confirm he does not want out?

I am going with my gut feeling on this and by some of the his efforts and gesiticulations on the sidelines this year.

I could be wrong but i could be right as well

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

LOL… No solid evidence that Taupau wants out, Taylor and club gets dragged over coals. No solid evidence that Farah isn't a destabilising influence hemce why he's getting the shaft, Taylor and club dragged over hot coals.

Can't have it both ways.

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[GNR4LIFE]

Can you confirm he does not want out?

No i can't, but i'm not trying to pass my belief off as fact like you did with your previous post.

I am going with my gut feeling on this and by some of the his efforts and gesiticulations on the sidelines this year.

Body language expert, ok. Interesting how you can interpret a player's unhappiness on the sideline as he wants out of the club, rather than just be unhappy at the results, but i suppose its the in thing to assume the worst of everything on the forum atm.

I could be wrong but i could be right as well

This isn't really saying much. No one would doubt you'd be either or.

 

[Eddie]

LOL… No solid evidence that Taupau wants out, Taylor and club gets dragged over coals. No solid evidence that Farah isn't a destabilising influence hence why he's getting the shaft, Taylor and club dragged over hot coals.

Can't have it both ways.

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Not sure what your on about to be honest. I am just giving my opinion.

No one really knows if its true or not we will see come March next year where Marty is playing i suppose.

anyway I do have evidence that….

we finished 2nd last and were terrible most of the year.

Suppose that is dragging JT over the coals or whatever....

anyway, in answer to the question, yes this club is pathetic at the moment.

I will leave it at that.

 

[Black_n_White]

How easily some of you are drinking the cool aid is mind boggling…

Not making lite of the Aka's plight, I do hope he is well and continues to be so, though do you all often read the papers? How often would a second tier player get the light of day in print, rarely? How often when they do make print would they be interviewed, neverlone allowed to fling excrement that doesnt end up on the editors floor?

Being honest, it would take a bit of swing from somewhere to bring his plight to light, let alone have him interviewed and put to print without the obligatory speil about seeking help if you are in need to round off the article.

This one isnt right...

 

[Eddie]

Can you confirm he does not want out?

No i can't, but i'm not trying to pass my belief off as fact like you did with your previous post.

I am going with my gut feeling on this and by some of the his efforts and gesiticulations on the sidelines this year.

Body language expert, ok. Interesting how you can interpret a player's unhappiness on the sideline as he wants out of the club, rather than just be unhappy at the results, but i suppose its the in thing to assume the worst of everything on the forum atm.

I could be wrong but i could be right as well

This isn't really saying much. No one would doubt you'd be either or.

Well if you assume the worst around this club then 9 times out of 10 your usually right.

So I will take that chance.

 

[TYGA]

Jason Taylor confirmed Taupau had not asked for a release. I believe his manager was hunting for clubs with cap room to get an upgraded deal for next year also. We are paying him peanuts under the current contract. We are in the box seat to do the deal so don't believe everything you read. If we don't upgrade his deal for 2016 he will not sign for 2017.

 

[Telltails]

Unfortunately mental health issues in society today especially with young men are a major issue and every club must have procedures in place that identifies and manages them. In view of what happened at our club two years ago I would expect that the clubs management and coaching staff would be well equipped and aware of what action should be taken, to identify and support any player who was showing symptoms. If this is not the case . then we should be suitably and harshly criticised. If in fact the club has failed in its duty of care, I would expect an internal review surely needs to be carried out, But all we get is silence. The new CEO needs to start speaking, and fast.
Another damaging media article about the club - someone needs to step up and take control.

 

[TYGA]

New CEO is highly rated by Gould. Wanted him to stay at Penrith. Time to do some work.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

How easily some of you are drinking the cool aid is mind boggling…

Not making lite of the Aka's plight, I do hope he is well and continues to be so, though do you all often read the papers? How often would a second tier player get the light of day in print, rarely? How often when they do make print would they be interviewed, neverlone allowed to fling excrement that doesnt end up on the editors floor?

Being honest, it would take a bit of swing from somewhere to bring his plight to light, let alone have him interviewed and put to print without the obligatory speil about seeking help if you are in need to round off the article.

This one isnt right...

After the well reported tragedies that have occurred in the past couple of years at clubs
( including WTs ) , it's no wonder that it's been picked up and reported on.
Despite the fact that a couple want to complain about Nanny state ect. We don't know what state of mind the player( any player) is or has been in. Anyone who has lived with someone with depression would be horrified about some of the comments here.

It is fact that the players who have tragically lost their lives , have, been lower grade players. Who found the pressure that they were under, was too much for them.
Clubs have a duty of care for these young guys who they bring into their clubs , in most cases, away from their home and family at a very early age, and it's just fortunate that in this case, the result was not the same.
What's not needed is some of us implying that sour grapes or something like that is behind it.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

So, you don't find the above comments about the club's toxic environment concerning in any way, Abraham?

No I don't.

That exact same scenario is replicated at every single other NRL club amongst fringe players. Young guys living away from support networks, under pressure to perform, and not always reaching the heights they had hoped for.

That's professional sport, end of story. But whatever makes you sleep better at night.

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Don't totally discount the fact that there's sour grapes involved due to having obviously been on the outer all yr. Not saying he didn't have issues, but that doesn't mean sour grapes can't exist.

Oh well, everything's okay then, if you say so. No more worries