Inside look into Tigers Management/Negotiations

[barra]

Well the only thing clear to me is that we have now heard Trippa's side to the story!
No idea what the relationship is like between him and CEO etc, but imagine it will be compromised now... doesn't matter how much sugar you put on it, he certainly stuck the knife in and it's going to hurt.

 

[Needaname]

To see that this guy drew an analogy that prisoners were unimportant in reviewing prison performance lost me completely, so cannot comment further.

I believe you took that the wrong way.

The way I took it is why would the prisoners say anything other than everything is great to the prison wardens. If they do otherwise they may find their stay a little more uncomfortable. (Hypothetically that is)

 

[yeahcaz]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

 

[Needaname]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

 

[tony soprano]

Well the only thing clear to me is that we have now heard Trippa's side to the story!
No idea what the relationship is like between him and CEO etc, but imagine it will be compromised now... doesn't matter how much sugar you put on it, he certainly stuck the knife in and it's going to hurt.

Trippa mentioned on here that he emailed pascod about Stefano being poached by parra and got a short noted from pascoe so I'd say there relation is on the ice.

 

[Newtown]

I bet Penrith couldn’t believe there luck when we released Ivan for nothing and then actually gave them Momo for Laurie. Dumbfounding

Pascoe also came to Wests tigers from Penrith.

 

[Lauren]

I believe the club has learned from its failures. I also think Pascoe has done a lot of good for the club however is avoiding what is our biggest hurdle.

The fact the club were unable to sustain certain values and standards was the greatest misstep IMO. The mishandling of Sheens, Benji, Farah, Teddy, even Moses and Woods changed how the club were perceived and moreso reflected that our core values, principles and standards were no longer in alignment (or still current).
Respect, Team and Excellence couldn't be more further removed from the club's strategic decision making, over the past several years.
So regardless of how you look at it, the team's current media presence, identity crisis and development/success/evolution is due to the fact of our poor organisational culture - from past governance.
It's why we still have a poorly defined team identity and culture. Everything stems from this including the characteristics (mediocrity, lack of direction and leadership) and interpersonal relationship and communication style.
We're the NRLs charity club at this point and until we correct this it will only continue to be the biggest hindrance and will hold all goal setting back. It's already engrained in the club's/team's foundations and impacts our ability to grow and execute our vision.

 

[The_Patriot]

The answer to all his concerns is Tim Sheens.

I'm no fan of Pascoe or any of his cronnys but they identified their own flaws and addressed it.

They have hired Sheens to be the footy brains that they have lacked in the past

You can not ask for more than that. You can't turn back time.

Just my say

Continue the witch hunt. . . .

 

[Tim Sheens]

To see that this guy drew an analogy that prisoners were unimportant in reviewing prison performance lost me completely, so cannot comment further.

I believe you took that the wrong way.

The way I took it is why would the prisoners say anything other than everything is great to the prison wardens. If they do otherwise they may find their stay a little more uncomfortable. (Hypothetically that is)

Maybe I did, as to me it seemed flippant and even allowing for your potential hypothesis, it comes across as lacking insight at this end.

 

[izotope]

The answer to all his concerns is Tim Sheens.

I'm no fan of Pascoe or any of his cronnys but they identified their own flaws and addressed it.

They have hired Sheens to be the footy brains that they have lacked in the past

You can not ask for more than that. You can't turn back time.

Just my say

Continue the witch hunt. . . .

Agree, worrying concern is JP identified his football nous was trash. Who did he rely on before Hartigan/Sheens.

No wonder we ended up with JR mbye and packerlino on 1 billion dollars.

 

[The_Patriot]

The answer to all his concerns is Tim Sheens.

I'm no fan of Pascoe or any of his cronnys but they identified their own flaws and addressed it.

They have hired Sheens to be the footy brains that they have lacked in the past

You can not ask for more than that. You can't turn back time.

Just my say

Continue the witch hunt. . . .

Agree, worrying concern is JP identified his football nous was trash. Who did he rely on before Hartigan/Sheens.

No wonder we ended up with JR mbye and packerlino on 1 billion dollars.

Add Marino Go and its no wonder we were screwed.

Im happy they have addressed it because it is the real nuts and bolts of why we have been rubbish.

Sheens will sort it out.

 

[Tim Sheens]

The answer to all his concerns is Tim Sheens.

I'm no fan of Pascoe or any of his cronnys but they identified their own flaws and addressed it.

They have hired Sheens to be the footy brains that they have lacked in the past

You can not ask for more than that. You can't turn back time.

Just my say

Continue the witch hunt. . . .

Feeling similarly in that Pascoe has been lacking in some footy related areas, with the Farah debacle from around his first week in the job and the suffering from it right up until the cap penalties expired a stand out.

We are financially sound with a relatively soon to be operating modern business and sport training complex, as well as an expiring stadium deal to move on from. Just as importantly, such footing has enabled the club to go on a hiring spree to address some of the long standing inadequacies that have also been holding our WT back.

 

[The_Patriot]

The answer to all his concerns is Tim Sheens.

I'm no fan of Pascoe or any of his cronnys but they identified their own flaws and addressed it.

They have hired Sheens to be the footy brains that they have lacked in the past

You can not ask for more than that. You can't turn back time.

Just my say

Continue the witch hunt. . . .

Feeling similarly in that Pascoe has been lacking in some footy related areas, with the Farah debacle from around his first week in the job and the suffering from it right up until the cap penalties expired a stand out.

We are financially sound with a relatively soon to be operating modern business and sport training complex, as well as an expiring stadium deal to move on from. Just as importantly, such footing has enabled the club to go on a hiring spree to address some of the long standing inadequacies that have also been holding our WT back.

Its definitely not all doom and gloom.

The issue has now been addressed.

 

[cochise]

The answer to all his concerns is Tim Sheens.

I'm no fan of Pascoe or any of his cronnys but they identified their own flaws and addressed it.

They have hired Sheens to be the footy brains that they have lacked in the past

You can not ask for more than that. You can't turn back time.

Just my say

Continue the witch hunt. . . .

Agree, worrying concern is JP identified his football nous was trash. Who did he rely on before Hartigan/Sheens.

No wonder we ended up with JR mbye and packerlino on 1 billion dollars.

He relied on Cleary.

 

[yeahcaz]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

Blind Freddy could tell you that give me a break

 

[cochise]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

Blind Freddy could tell you that give me a break

Holding the Bulldogs up as some statue to good recruitment is stupid, they have burnt their cap and are short a hooker, half and a decent fullback. They may hit the bottom of the 8 but there is not growth from there unless they find some extremely talented juniors as their cap money is gone for the next 3-4 years.

 

[jirskyr]

I've listened to the first 20 minutes, is there anything more to it than a supporter's external take on what the club should have done, or should be doing?

I read the comments first and I'm expecting inside info from this Adrian guy, the best he has is a handful of meetings with club personnel and Marina Go forgetting Garry Jack's name. Is there anything more to it? There's 100 opinions already in these forums and I have no idea who this Adrian guy is, to vouch for anything he suggests or recalls.

 

[yeahcaz]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

Blind Freddy could tell you that give me a break

Holding the Bulldogs up as some statue to good recruitment is stupid, they have burnt their cap and are short a hooker, half and a decent fullback. They may hit the bottom of the 8 but there is not growth from there unless they find some extremely talented juniors as their cap money is gone for the next 3-4 years.

They’ve just lost Elliot and Lewis, plus if Gould has his way Faitala Mariner will be medically retired by the start of next season , he will have their cap sorted quicker than we can fix the mess at our club. Not to mention 3 places signed on 1 year deals, if players like Vaughan, dufty and Asiata bust, they can punt them almost right away.

 

[WT2019]

I've listened to the first 20 minutes, is there anything more to it than a supporter's external take on what the club should have done, or should be doing?

I read the comments first and I'm expecting inside info from this Adrian guy, the best he has is a handful of meetings with club personnel and Marina Go forgetting Gary Jack's name. Is there anything more to it? There's 100 opinions already in these forums and I have no idea who this Adrian guy is, to vouch for anything he suggests or recalls.

Exactly. One of the guys on Westlife (Becarra) is his mate and has a personal vendetta about Pascoe and used this guy to get to Pascoe. Also, Madge spoke to the Westlife guts one day after a KOE game they are all on the keep Madge bandwagon.

 

[cochise]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

Blind Freddy could tell you that give me a break

Holding the Bulldogs up as some statue to good recruitment is stupid, they have burnt their cap and are short a hooker, half and a decent fullback. They may hit the bottom of the 8 but there is not growth from there unless they find some extremely talented juniors as their cap money is gone for the next 3-4 years.

They’ve just lost Elliot and Lewis, plus if Gould has his way Faitala Mariner will be medically retired by the start of next season , he will have their cap sorted quicker than we can fix the mess at our club. Not to mention 3 places signed on 1 year deals, if players like Vaughan, dufty and Asiata bust, they can punt them almost right away.

They saved 2 months pay on Lewis so that doesn't help with anything, Elliot was a lucky break for them.

Who is their Hooker? Who is their half? They are lucky they got Dufty on a one year deal because he is not the answer. How anyone can talk up a side that finished last, went on a spending spree and are still short in 3 out of 4 spine positions.