Inside look into Tigers Management/Negotiations

[avocadoontoast]

I've listened to the first 20 minutes, is there anything more to it than a supporter's external take on what the club should have done, or should be doing?

I read the comments first and I'm expecting inside info from this Adrian guy, the best he has is a handful of meetings with club personnel and Marina Go forgetting Garry Jack's name. Is there anything more to it? There's 100 opinions already in these forums and I have no idea who this Adrian guy is, to vouch for anything he suggests or recalls.

I like to slip the boot in as much as anyone but agree with you. This bloke is just a fan that has met Pascoe a couple of times and doesn’t like him. Hardly anything groundbreaking.

 

[happy_tiger]

Brydens sucks …
Logo has ruined the jersey
Punt them

Sounds like the only thing left will be the COE and @Geo

And a red leather lounge

Lounge or dress ??

 

[NT_Tiger]

I think WT are on the right track towards advancement. Slowly divest ourselves of on field responsibilities and focus on promoting our success in reality TV. Great for marketing and sales, and by now fans have given up on any hope of on field success anyway. Looking forward to Wests Tigers 2. Logies here we come.

Kinda like the Anna Kornikova of the NRL you reckon?

Just not as good looking.

 

[yeahcaz]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

Blind Freddy could tell you that give me a break

Holding the Bulldogs up as some statue to good recruitment is stupid, they have burnt their cap and are short a hooker, half and a decent fullback. They may hit the bottom of the 8 but there is not growth from there unless they find some extremely talented juniors as their cap money is gone for the next 3-4 years.

They’ve just lost Elliot and Lewis, plus if Gould has his way Faitala Mariner will be medically retired by the start of next season , he will have their cap sorted quicker than we can fix the mess at our club. Not to mention 3 places signed on 1 year deals, if players like Vaughan, dufty and Asiata bust, they can punt them almost right away.

They saved 2 months pay on Lewis so that doesn't help with anything, Elliot was a lucky break for them.

Who is their Hooker? Who is their half? They are lucky they got Dufty on a one year deal because he is not the answer. How anyone can talk up a side that finished last, went on a spending spree and are still short in 3 out of 4 spine positions.

Because they still got players in key spots and if the 1 year players don’t fire they can be moved on easy and the cap is sweet again. I know as tigers fans we have no idea what good recruitment looks like but they can easily be talked up, no need to be salty.

They will be a vastly better side next season because of the recruitment and beyond that.

 

[cochise]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

Blind Freddy could tell you that give me a break

Holding the Bulldogs up as some statue to good recruitment is stupid, they have burnt their cap and are short a hooker, half and a decent fullback. They may hit the bottom of the 8 but there is not growth from there unless they find some extremely talented juniors as their cap money is gone for the next 3-4 years.

They’ve just lost Elliot and Lewis, plus if Gould has his way Faitala Mariner will be medically retired by the start of next season , he will have their cap sorted quicker than we can fix the mess at our club. Not to mention 3 places signed on 1 year deals, if players like Vaughan, dufty and Asiata bust, they can punt them almost right away.

They saved 2 months pay on Lewis so that doesn't help with anything, Elliot was a lucky break for them.

Who is their Hooker? Who is their half? They are lucky they got Dufty on a one year deal because he is not the answer. How anyone can talk up a side that finished last, went on a spending spree and are still short in 3 out of 4 spine positions.

Because they still got players in key spots and if the 1 year players don’t fire they can be moved on easy and the cap is sweet again. I know as tigers fans we have no idea what good recruitment looks like but they can easily be talked up, no need to be salty.

They will be a vastly better side next season because of the recruitment and beyond that.

They will be an average side next year.

 

[TigerTownSFS]

Excellent insight.

Enjoyed the monologue.

This is precisely what i have been thinking for ages.

How do.we constantly come of second best. The last six years of recruitment has been embarrassing.

JAC, TPJ in recent times. These should both be here.

I know what the common thing is!

I think it’s struck a cord because most of us watching the club over the last decade have had similar thoughts so having some of the most bizarre events explained by someone who has been close to the club confirmed those fears. I think there is genuine risk that if we don’t get it right over the next few years the club is in real strife despite the “balanced budget” that Pascoe has engineered. What I can’t really see however is what the next steps are. If Wests want to maintain ownership it doesn’t feel like there is much pressure to change at all. Sheens is great but the deep issues that have plagued this club may not be able to be fixed by one man particularly if his bosses (ceo, chairman, board) aren’t changing.

 

[cochise]

Excellent insight.

Enjoyed the monologue.

This is precisely what i have been thinking for ages.

How do.we constantly come of second best. The last six years of recruitment has been embarrassing.

JAC, TPJ in recent times. These should both be here.

I know what the common thing is!

I think it’s struck a cord because most of us watching the club over the last decade have had similar thoughts so having some of the most bizarre events explained by someone who has been close to the club confirmed those fears. I think there is genuine risk that if we don’t get it right over the next few years the club is in real strife despite the “balanced budget” that Pascoe has engineered. What I can’t really see however is what the next steps are. If Wests want to maintain ownership it doesn’t feel like there is much pressure to change at all. Sheens is great but the deep issues that have plagued this club may not be able to be fixed by one man particularly if his bosses (ceo, chairman, board) aren’t changing.

He isn't that close to the club though, he has met with them a couple of times. He was literally on here in the last 2 weeks asking for Lee's email address.

 

[TigerTownSFS]

Excellent insight.

Enjoyed the monologue.

This is precisely what i have been thinking for ages.

How do.we constantly come of second best. The last six years of recruitment has been embarrassing.

JAC, TPJ in recent times. These should both be here.

I know what the common thing is!

I think it’s struck a cord because most of us watching the club over the last decade have had similar thoughts so having some of the most bizarre events explained by someone who has been close to the club confirmed those fears. I think there is genuine risk that if we don’t get it right over the next few years the club is in real strife despite the “balanced budget” that Pascoe has engineered. What I can’t really see however is what the next steps are. If Wests want to maintain ownership it doesn’t feel like there is much pressure to change at all. Sheens is great but the deep issues that have plagued this club may not be able to be fixed by one man particularly if his bosses (ceo, chairman, board) aren’t changing.

He isn't that close to the club though, he has met with them a couple of times. He was literally on here in the last 2 weeks asking for Lee's email address.

He’s closer then me. You have had dealings with the club, does this ring true?

 

[cochise]

Excellent insight.

Enjoyed the monologue.

This is precisely what i have been thinking for ages.

How do.we constantly come of second best. The last six years of recruitment has been embarrassing.

JAC, TPJ in recent times. These should both be here.

I know what the common thing is!

I think it’s struck a cord because most of us watching the club over the last decade have had similar thoughts so having some of the most bizarre events explained by someone who has been close to the club confirmed those fears. I think there is genuine risk that if we don’t get it right over the next few years the club is in real strife despite the “balanced budget” that Pascoe has engineered. What I can’t really see however is what the next steps are. If Wests want to maintain ownership it doesn’t feel like there is much pressure to change at all. Sheens is great but the deep issues that have plagued this club may not be able to be fixed by one man particularly if his bosses (ceo, chairman, board) aren’t changing.

He isn't that close to the club though, he has met with them a couple of times. He was literally on here in the last 2 weeks asking for Lee's email address.

He’s closer then me. You have had dealings with the club, does this ring true?

There are things that we need to work on off the field most definitely. Football clubs are unusual organisations to deal with as they operate on relative large budgets but the vast majority of the money goes to the football departments leaving other areas operating on a budget that would be lower than what is expected for organisations of their size.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Brydens sucks …
Logo has ruined the jersey
Punt them

Sounds like the only thing left will be the COE and @Geo

And a red leather lounge

Casting couch?

 

[GCfan]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

Blind Freddy could tell you that give me a break

I guess we’ll all see how wise you are next year when the Dogs win the whole shebang hey Caz

 

[tigerbalm]

Excellent insight.

Enjoyed the monologue.

This is precisely what i have been thinking for ages.

How do.we constantly come of second best. The last six years of recruitment has been embarrassing.

JAC, TPJ in recent times. These should both be here.

I know what the common thing is!

I think it’s struck a cord because most of us watching the club over the last decade have had similar thoughts so having some of the most bizarre events explained by someone who has been close to the club confirmed those fears. I think there is genuine risk that if we don’t get it right over the next few years the club is in real strife despite the “balanced budget” that Pascoe has engineered. What I can’t really see however is what the next steps are. If Wests want to maintain ownership it doesn’t feel like there is much pressure to change at all. Sheens is great but the deep issues that have plagued this club may not be able to be fixed by one man particularly if his bosses (ceo, chairman, board) aren’t changing.

He isn't that close to the club though, he has met with them a couple of times. He was literally on here in the last 2 weeks asking for Lee's email address.

so? pecker measuring contest to see who knows pascoe the most lol.

 

[yeahcaz]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

Blind Freddy could tell you that give me a break

Holding the Bulldogs up as some statue to good recruitment is stupid, they have burnt their cap and are short a hooker, half and a decent fullback. They may hit the bottom of the 8 but there is not growth from there unless they find some extremely talented juniors as their cap money is gone for the next 3-4 years.

They’ve just lost Elliot and Lewis, plus if Gould has his way Faitala Mariner will be medically retired by the start of next season , he will have their cap sorted quicker than we can fix the mess at our club. Not to mention 3 places signed on 1 year deals, if players like Vaughan, dufty and Asiata bust, they can punt them almost right away.

They saved 2 months pay on Lewis so that doesn't help with anything, Elliot was a lucky break for them.

Who is their Hooker? Who is their half? They are lucky they got Dufty on a one year deal because he is not the answer. How anyone can talk up a side that finished last, went on a spending spree and are still short in 3 out of 4 spine positions.

Because they still got players in key spots and if the 1 year players don’t fire they can be moved on easy and the cap is sweet again. I know as tigers fans we have no idea what good recruitment looks like but they can easily be talked up, no need to be salty.

They will be a vastly better side next season because of the recruitment and beyond that.

They will be an average side next year.

If they’re average then we’re worst in the comp with daylight second.

 

[cochise]

Excellent insight.

Enjoyed the monologue.

This is precisely what i have been thinking for ages.

How do.we constantly come of second best. The last six years of recruitment has been embarrassing.

JAC, TPJ in recent times. These should both be here.

I know what the common thing is!

I think it’s struck a cord because most of us watching the club over the last decade have had similar thoughts so having some of the most bizarre events explained by someone who has been close to the club confirmed those fears. I think there is genuine risk that if we don’t get it right over the next few years the club is in real strife despite the “balanced budget” that Pascoe has engineered. What I can’t really see however is what the next steps are. If Wests want to maintain ownership it doesn’t feel like there is much pressure to change at all. Sheens is great but the deep issues that have plagued this club may not be able to be fixed by one man particularly if his bosses (ceo, chairman, board) aren’t changing.

He isn't that close to the club though, he has met with them a couple of times. He was literally on here in the last 2 weeks asking for Lee's email address.

so? pecker measuring contest to see who knows pascoe the most lol.

No not at all, I couldn't care less and see merit in some of the things he says.

 

[cochise]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

Blind Freddy could tell you that give me a break

Holding the Bulldogs up as some statue to good recruitment is stupid, they have burnt their cap and are short a hooker, half and a decent fullback. They may hit the bottom of the 8 but there is not growth from there unless they find some extremely talented juniors as their cap money is gone for the next 3-4 years.

They’ve just lost Elliot and Lewis, plus if Gould has his way Faitala Mariner will be medically retired by the start of next season , he will have their cap sorted quicker than we can fix the mess at our club. Not to mention 3 places signed on 1 year deals, if players like Vaughan, dufty and Asiata bust, they can punt them almost right away.

They saved 2 months pay on Lewis so that doesn't help with anything, Elliot was a lucky break for them.

Who is their Hooker? Who is their half? They are lucky they got Dufty on a one year deal because he is not the answer. How anyone can talk up a side that finished last, went on a spending spree and are still short in 3 out of 4 spine positions.

Because they still got players in key spots and if the 1 year players don’t fire they can be moved on easy and the cap is sweet again. I know as tigers fans we have no idea what good recruitment looks like but they can easily be talked up, no need to be salty.

They will be a vastly better side next season because of the recruitment and beyond that.

They will be an average side next year.

If they’re average then we’re worst in the comp with daylight second.

lol, so we are the measuring stick for good recruitment. We are no measuring stick and neither are the dogs.

 

[yeahcaz]

Listened to the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To me he raised some good points and said some stuff I wasn’t aware of.
Left me feeing worse about the club in general tbh but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

By his own admission he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the club or how it runs.
In saying that i really enjoyed his passion.

He did lose me somewat when he was talking about throwing big money at big name players.
Um.... that’s part of why we are in this mess.

Reynolds, Packer, Matulino etc were all recruited on big money and didn’t work out.
So why should be throw big overs on more players? I think he’s incorrect in all of that

Because none of those players were really that good. Comparing them to some of the others we’ve been linked to like pangai, finucane, Addo carr is apples and oranges.

The club constantly coming out saying we don’t wanna pay overs because we’ve been burned before is just a bloody cop out for how poor the recruitment is. You pay overs for a Brandon smith, a Joey manu, Harry grant etc.
letting past failures dictate our future dealings is just weak. Bulldogs paid overs for Burton and Fox and now they’re better off

We do not know that yet.

Blind Freddy could tell you that give me a break

I guess we’ll all see how wise you are next year when the Dogs win the whole shebang hey Caz

The dogs don’t expect to win it all next season and I never said they would, I just said they’ll be better off which means better than wooden spoon.

 

[Swordy]

Oh my lord. I just listened to this podcast and the only thing that comes to mind is what a complete wannabe flog.

 

[balmain boy]

Oh my lord. I just listened to this podcast and the only thing that comes to mind is what a complete wannabe flog.

If that's your take then you must love losing. Do you dream of failure? If you can't see what's plainly obvious to most then so be it.

 

[Demps]

Oh my lord. I just listened to this podcast and the only thing that comes to mind is what a complete wannabe flog.

Who?
Trippa or Pascoe & them?

 

[Swordy]

Oh my lord. I just listened to this podcast and the only thing that comes to mind is what a complete wannabe flog.

Who?
Trippa or Pascoe & them?

The bloke on the podcast, whoever he is.