Inside story on how Tedesco nearly signed with Bulldogs

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The saga is well behind us now,though losing 3 players of that calibre will always impact long term.
Having sad that,there are a couple of issues that gnaw me in defying common decency..
1)As late as April last year they were still saying they were uncommitted/considering options vs WT when in fact they were all fully committed to moving on.They did this in the knowledge that every week that went by was going to negatively impact WT..the club that nurtured them,developed them ,and paid them through their respective season ending injuries over the years.It was almost as though they were deliberately being vindictive knowing their unwillingness to commit was going to hurt WT
2)The "captains"(I use that term loosely)attitude towards the club in attempting to take the other "stars"with him was just a total disgrace,and a smear on his supposed leadership and character.Appreciate hes not the sharpest tool in the shed and I Moses was probably pulling his strings,but ..words defy me..Id never have him back with the knowledge of these actions and his lack of integrity.A grub of the highest order,surpassed only by….
3)The performance of M Moses in his final matches with WT...let the coach down,his team mates down and the fans down and simply couldn't give a rats about anyone but himself and his own agenda.
4)The role Benny Elias played in the M Moses saga demonstrated conclusively that WT was very low on his list of priorities

Its professional sport Kiddies, , the same things happen throughout the sporting world everywhere.
Contracts are agreed to, and for dozens of reasons, there's denials about them by players and\or Managers, along with all sorts of clandestine meetings.
If you think that the same thing happens in probably every club in the Nrl , and any other sport you like to name(maybe not Synchronous Swimming)LOL, Then its a bit nieve,

Clubs, Coaches , Players and Managers , will (mostly) all lie and cheat when it suits them.
I used the word "mostly" because by the law of averages, there must be some , somewhere on this planet that wont,
but dont hold your breath hoping to meet one.
 
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My takeaways from this article:

Tedesco had zero interest in re-signing but apparently never told the club that until fairly late on.

Dib and I Moses conduct their business in a way that reflects poorly on them and their clients. Why the late night visit etc

Dib clearly didn't rate M Moses!

Those three strung the club along unnecessarily which is what really annoyed me. The way they all ignored the deadline imposed said it all.

I think he may of if all 4 could of stayed together

That was never going to happen

Ancient History , we have all moved on and if Rd 1 is any indication we have made the right call

Still remember getting blasted out of the sky in 2016 when mentioning starting over with a forward based side and letting all four go
 
In forming opinions of these players never underestimate the role their manager played.
He is the true grub.
Anyway look at what the club has done with the money saved, 2 front rowers for one seems like a good deal, together with the other recruits.

Now let's just move on,
 
At least we don't have to see the big Oaf at the after game press conferences pretending he cared about the club, although i have to admit he did not tank it like moses at the end
 
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Woods is a Dog
Tedesco is a cock
And Moses is just slimy
That says it all
They certainly joined the teams that suit them best

Tedesco and that incident with his Italian team mate says it all really.
 
Heard him interviewed on BSB. That voice….Glad it’s not representing our club anymore. Say what you like about Lewrence, but it was refreshing listening to player that sounds intelligent at our press conference for a change.
 
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My takeaways from this article:

Tedesco had zero interest in re-signing but apparently never told the club that until fairly late on.

Dib and I Moses conduct their business in a way that reflects poorly on them and their clients. Why the late night visit etc

Dib clearly didn't rate M Moses!

A friend at work sister works for the Rorters, and he told me that Ted had signed even before Ivan gave them a deadline.
 
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My takeaways from this article:

Tedesco had zero interest in re-signing but apparently never told the club that until fairly late on.

Dib and I Moses conduct their business in a way that reflects poorly on them and their clients. Why the late night visit etc

Dib clearly didn't rate M Moses!

A friend at work sister works for the Rorters, and he told me that Ted had signed even before Ivan gave them a deadline.

The deadline was the most ridiculous thing ever. They were already gone and had been for weeks. They were already gone when Cleary pulled Moses’ contract, to prioritise them weeks before that. It should never be forgotten what an absolute farce the whole thing became.
 
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The saga is well behind us now,though losing 3 players of that calibre will always impact long term.
Having sad that,there are a couple of issues that gnaw me in defying common decency..
1)As late as April last year they were still saying they were uncommitted/considering options vs WT when in fact they were all fully committed to moving on.They did this in the knowledge that every week that went by was going to negatively impact WT..the club that nurtured them,developed them ,and paid them through their respective season ending injuries over the years.It was almost as though they were deliberately being vindictive knowing their unwillingness to commit was going to hurt WT
2)The "captains"(I use that term loosely)attitude towards the club in attempting to take the other "stars"with him was just a total disgrace,and a smear on his supposed leadership and character.Appreciate hes not the sharpest tool in the shed and I Moses was probably pulling his strings,but ..words defy me..Id never have him back with the knowledge of these actions and his lack of integrity.A grub of the highest order,surpassed only by….
3)The performance of M Moses in his final matches with WT...let the coach down,his team mates down and the fans down and simply couldn't give a rats about anyone but himself and his own agenda.
4)The role Benny Elias played in the M Moses saga demonstrated conclusively that WT was very low on his list of priorities

Its professional sport Kiddies, , the same things happen throughout the sporting world everywhere.
Contracts are agreed to, and for dozens of reasons, there's denials about them by players and\or Managers, along with all sorts of clandestine meetings.
If you think that the same thing happens in probably every club in the Nrl , and any other sport you like to name(maybe not Synchronous Swimming)LOL, Then its a bit nieve,

Clubs, Coaches , Players and Managers , will (mostly) all lie and cheat when it suits them.
I used the word "mostly" because by the law of averages, there must be some , somewhere on this planet that wont,
but dont hold your breath hoping to meet one.

It is called integrity amongst other things, you either have it or you don't and only those with it can be called "professional". It is one thing to be evasive or non-committal, another altogether to bald faced lie.

Using a condescending term such as "Kiddies" is also an unbecoming downward step from you.
 
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Woods is a Dog
Tedesco is a cock
And Moses is just slimy
That says it all
They certainly joined the teams that suit them best

Tedesco and that incident with his Italian team mate says it all really.

Yep. Complete scum.
 
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My takeaways from this article:

Tedesco had zero interest in re-signing but apparently never told the club that until fairly late on.

Dib and I Moses conduct their business in a way that reflects poorly on them and their clients. Why the late night visit etc

Dib clearly didn't rate M Moses!

A friend at work sister works for the Rorters, and he told me that Ted had signed even before Ivan gave them a deadline.

The deadline was the most ridiculous thing ever. They were already gone and had been for weeks. They were already gone when Cleary pulled Moses’ contract, to prioritise them weeks before that. It should never be forgotten what an absolute farce the whole thing became.

The deadline was needed because the club needed some high ground. Everyone knew they had signed or given intentions of going elsewhere. Unfortunately they didn’t have the guts to make it public, so the club basically forced their hand and in the process finally took control of our own destiny again.

Don’t forget when Woods had coffee with the Dogs, but he was just catching up with mates ?
 
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My takeaways from this article:

Tedesco had zero interest in re-signing but apparently never told the club that until fairly late on.

Dib and I Moses conduct their business in a way that reflects poorly on them and their clients. Why the late night visit etc

Dib clearly didn't rate M Moses!

A friend at work sister works for the Rorters, and he told me that Ted had signed even before Ivan gave them a deadline.

The deadline was the most ridiculous thing ever. They were already gone and had been for weeks. They were already gone when Cleary pulled Moses’ contract, to prioritise them weeks before that. It should never be forgotten what an absolute farce the whole thing became.

The deadline was needed because the club needed some high ground. Everyone knew they had signed or given intentions of going elsewhere. Unfortunately they didn’t have the guts to make it public, so the club basically forced their hand and in the process finally took control of our own destiny again.

Don’t forget when Woods had coffee with the Dogs, but he was just catching up with mates ?

Thank God for Cleary. He finally got the club calling the shots. Potter and Taylor tried but Cleary got it done.
 
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The saga is well behind us now,though losing 3 players of that calibre will always impact long term.
Having sad that,there are a couple of issues that gnaw me in defying common decency..
1)As late as April last year they were still saying they were uncommitted/considering options vs WT when in fact they were all fully committed to moving on.They did this in the knowledge that every week that went by was going to negatively impact WT..the club that nurtured them,developed them ,and paid them through their respective season ending injuries over the years.It was almost as though they were deliberately being vindictive knowing their unwillingness to commit was going to hurt WT
2)The "captains"(I use that term loosely)attitude towards the club in attempting to take the other "stars"with him was just a total disgrace,and a smear on his supposed leadership and character.Appreciate hes not the sharpest tool in the shed and I Moses was probably pulling his strings,but ..words defy me..Id never have him back with the knowledge of these actions and his lack of integrity.A grub of the highest order,surpassed only by….
3)The performance of M Moses in his final matches with WT...let the coach down,his team mates down and the fans down and simply couldn't give a rats about anyone but himself and his own agenda.
4)The role Benny Elias played in the M Moses saga demonstrated conclusively that WT was very low on his list of priorities

Its professional sport Kiddies, , the same things happen throughout the sporting world everywhere.
Contracts are agreed to, and for dozens of reasons, there's denials about them by players and\or Managers, along with all sorts of clandestine meetings.
If you think that the same thing happens in probably every club in the Nrl , and any other sport you like to name(maybe not Synchronous Swimming)LOL, Then its a bit nieve,

Clubs, Coaches , Players and Managers , will (mostly) all lie and cheat when it suits them.
I used the word "mostly" because by the law of averages, there must be some , somewhere on this planet that wont,
but dont hold your breath hoping to meet one.

It is called integrity amongst other things, you either have it or you don't and only those with it can be called "professional". It is one thing to be evasive or non-committal, another altogether to bald faced lie.

Using a condescending term such as "Kiddies" is also an unbecoming downward step from you.

Didnt mean anything by the term, sorry if it upset you.
But the comment that only someone who has integrity can be called professional , is not only ridiculous, but also completely wrong.,
“Professional” doesnt come with a halo.
Some of the greatest Professional sportsmen have been pure bastards and had the integrity of a Bull Ant..
Whether you like it or not, a sportsman who earns his living from sport, is a professional.
Integrity May or may not make him a better person, but doesn’t mean he’s not a professional
Even an Amateur fisherman who becomes a professional fisherman doesn’t have to have integrity..

If we got rid of every player who lied about a contract or had secret meetings with other clubs we wouldn’t have many teams left..
I know it’s hard to believe , but even Clubs will lie , cheat and break contracts when it suits them,
And they are mostly run by professionals and a lot of them have a low level of integrity, but they are still Professionals
 
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A friend at work sister works for the Rorters, and he told me that Ted had signed even before Ivan gave them a deadline.

The deadline was the most ridiculous thing ever. They were already gone and had been for weeks. They were already gone when Cleary pulled Moses’ contract, to prioritise them weeks before that. It should never be forgotten what an absolute farce the whole thing became.

The deadline was needed because the club needed some high ground. Everyone knew they had signed or given intentions of going elsewhere. Unfortunately they didn’t have the guts to make it public, so the club basically forced their hand and in the process finally took control of our own destiny again.

Don’t forget when Woods had coffee with the Dogs, but he was just catching up with mates ?

Thank God for Cleary. He finally got the club calling the shots. Potter and Taylor tried but Cleary got it done.

Farah may have been overpaid for too long but strictly speaking was not his fault but NEVER in any team has he not tried his heart out. I find that out in the community he still has a lot of respect as a player. He is probably also suffering divorce pains.
 
We wont give a rats about the details behind the signature of the first marquee player we are actually able to secure -in fact we will be congratulating our recruitment team for securing them.
The obsession -most of which is based on pure assumption -in regard to what led to, the when, where, and how these two signed elsewhere is over the top.
The fact they are still dominating threads on our forum after a good win is all a bit nuts really.
 
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My takeaways from this article:

Tedesco had zero interest in re-signing but apparently never told the club that until fairly late on.

Dib and I Moses conduct their business in a way that reflects poorly on them and their clients. Why the late night visit etc

Dib clearly didn't rate M Moses!

A friend at work sister works for the Rorters, and he told me that Ted had signed even before Ivan gave them a deadline.

The deadline was the most ridiculous thing ever. They were already gone and had been for weeks. They were already gone when Cleary pulled Moses’ contract, to prioritise them weeks before that. It should never be forgotten what an absolute farce the whole thing became.

The deadline was a show of strength.

For a club being bent over the coach needed to do something.

Im sue even Ivan knew it was a lost cause.
 
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In forming opinions of these players never underestimate the role their manager played.
He is the true grub.

He may be a grub but what his influence over these guys says more than anything is that the Wests Tigers coach who should also have an influence over them had very little.

All the rubbish that the players respected Taylor proved to be just that.

In short good or great coaches have more influences over most of their players than the player managers.
 

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