Ivan Cleary Axed

According to that article, he failed to act on ill discipline from players.
I bet farahs eyes lit up reading that! !
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@marzie said:
Based on the fact that we need him!

We do?

We need someone who can actually coach. EitherCleary , or someone else

But according to the above article, he was let go before it became time to re-negotiate with players coming off contract. Why would that be, and if true why would you want him here?
 
I don't know if anyone was watching today this morning, but when they talked about clearly being sacked from panthers they said he's linked to the Tigers due to the Tigers 'fiasco' between Taylor and Farah

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@gallagher said:
According to that article, he failed to act on ill discipline from players.
I bet farahs eyes lit up reading that! !

We are in an era at WTs where everyone but the head coach is held accountable for the disastrous season. But we are moving ahead, probably in the same direction as that thrown phone.
 
There was a falling out between Gould and Cleary as long as 12 months ago. I was told as early as the start of last season that Cleary's days were numbered. We all hear rumours but this one was on the money
 
It's funny because Taylor has done the same thing Cleary did. Cleary is a lot like Taylor in the sense that he'll do things his way regardless if has to step on toes. Cleary moved on 3 stalwarts of the club within his first yr, Gordon, Jennings and Lewis. Be careful what you wish for because chances are he'd try and move Farah on as well. He's already moved one club legend on in Luke Lewis, what's him to stop moving another one on?

If the stars aligned and we got him and he tried to implement the same plan as JT, I guarantee the ones calling for the club to sign him will be the first ones to threaten to walk away for signing someone so inept. So by all means, keeping calling for him because you might be in for a surprise if the club does.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
It's funny because Taylor has done the same thing Cleary did. Cleary is a lot like Taylor in the sense that he'll do things his way regardless if has to step on toes. Cleary moved on 3 stalwarts of the club within his first yr, Gordon, Jennings and Lewis. Be careful what you wish for because chances are he'd try and move Farah on as well. He's already moved one club legend on in Luke Lewis, what's him to stop moving another one on?

If the stars aligned and we got him and he tried to implement the same plan as JT, I guarantee the ones calling for the club to sign him will be the first ones to threaten to walk away for signing someone so inept. So by all means, keeping calling for him because you might be in for a surprise if the club does.

I might be wrong - but I think you will find that no significant decision is made at Penrith without Phil Goulds approval especially when it is to do with the players.
 
Im not so sure Cleary adds anything better than Taylor and we are already a club that cant afford yet another coaching fiasco.

The Tigers need to stick with Taylor, he has a Medium to long term plan that is not to dissimilar to other successful coaches. ie. clean out playing roster, focus on defense and discipline, then unleash attacking prowess.

We have been calling for this type of change from back in the Sheens days, we finally got the man who has the courage to do something ballsy.

Good luck Cleary, enjoy your paid rest.
 
@gallagher said:
According to that article, he failed to act on ill discipline from players.
I bet farahs eyes lit up reading that! !

farah is egoistic, selfish and maybe even manipulative but doubt he's ill disciplined.

trains hard, does his weights, cardio and everything.
 
If this was the end of 2016, it would surely be of big interest to us. But the timing isn't right, no way would they hook JT after everything that has happened the last few months off-field.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
And who is paying out JT? Seriously…

How much do you reckon he's on, ??
Can't be much

He'd prbably be on about 400k. Think Potter was on about $350k and he was the lowest paid ocach in teh NRL. Griffin wanted about $7-800k to coach us, which is probably why we never replied to him after his interview.

We aren't the Broncos. Nor the Cowboys.

People want us to sign premiership winnign coaches as assistants. Cowboys are probably paying their coaches $1.5 million combined, and that will be more soon as Green renegotiates for a rise! We would be closer to $600k for all of our coaches.

Sacking Taylor will cost the club probably at least $1.3 million. That's a decent enough reason to give him more time to do the job he said he would in the boards eyes i'm sure!
 
@Balmain Boy said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
And who is paying out JT? Seriously…

How much do you reckon he's on, ??
Can't be much

He'd prbably be on about 400k. Think Potter was on about $350k and he was the lowest paid ocach in teh NRL. Henjak wanted about $7-800k to coach us, which is probably why we never replied to him after his interview.

We aren't the Broncos. Nor the Cowboys.

People want us to sign premiership winnign coaches as assistants. Cowboys are probably paying their coaches $1.5 million combined, and that will be more soon as Green renegotiates for a rise! We would be closer to $600k for all of our coaches.

Sacking Taylor will cost the club probably at least $1.3 million. That's a decent enough reason to give him more time to do the job he said he would in the boards eyes i'm sure!

I thought potter was on 150k a year
 
@marzie said:
@Balmain Boy said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
And who is paying out JT? Seriously…

How much do you reckon he's on, ??
Can't be much

He'd prbably be on about 400k. Think Potter was on about $350k and he was the lowest paid ocach in teh NRL. Henjak wanted about $7-800k to coach us, which is probably why we never replied to him after his interview.

We aren't the Broncos. Nor the Cowboys.

People want us to sign premiership winnign coaches as assistants. Cowboys are probably paying their coaches $1.5 million combined, and that will be more soon as Green renegotiates for a rise! We would be closer to $600k for all of our coaches.

Sacking Taylor will cost the club probably at least $1.3 million. That's a decent enough reason to give him more time to do the job he said he would in the boards eyes i'm sure!

I thought potter was on 150k a year

I vaguely remember reading he was on $250k and was the lowest paid NRL coach at the time, but could be wrong.
 
Yeah,brave move,you can't believe the Bronco's this year are the basically the same squad Griffin had.Gould talks him up but time will tell.
 
@Basil Tiger said:
Yeah,brave move,you can't believe the Bronco's this year are the basically the same squad Griffin had.Gould talks him up but time will tell.

Broncos 2015 was nearly the same squad as Griffin had PLUS the recruitment of an Aussie test player, a kiwi test player and a bloke who is destined to become a superstar. That will make a difference to your clubs fortunes from one year to the next. Can't believe Penrith punted Cleary and headhunted 'Peter' Griffin….there must definitely be more to the Gus/Clearly fallout. Perhaps Ivan wasn't the yes man that Gus' ego would insist on having beneath him.
 
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