TIGERPOWER
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“ in for the long haul”
You still in it for the long haul Ivan? Or did you forget we brought you back from the coaching wilderness the your old friend Gus sent you to.
Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
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“ in for the long haul”
You still in it for the long haul Ivan? Or did you forget we brought you back from the coaching wilderness the your old friend Gus sent you to.
TIGERPOWER
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Couldn’t agree more with you. He makes Moses look like good actually.
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Last chance to keep this thread open guys - I've had enough crap going on between some of you - you know who you are so stop it or this thread gets locked until something official is released from the Tigers.
HabboTiger
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Wise move
Cairnstigers
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No one is bigger than the club
Not even Cleary
Pasco and Go should take a hard stance
I dont know the answer to this but if it was up to me I would try and find a loop hole of some kind that would allow us to demote Ivan
A bit like demoting a player to ISP for not performing
Or showing up late for training
Or because he simply is not the best option for this game
Or because he simply in not putting in the effort that is expected of him (Ivan)
Now Ivan was contracted to do a job and to do it to his best ability
He himself came up with the the words to our players
"You are either on the bus or off the bus"
Now how can Ivan be on the Bus when he has clearly met with an apposing club who wish to sign him up as their head coach and this was distracting our team and Ivans own performance.
He could not have been focused 100% on his job that he was contracted to do
And it is clear at this point next season will be even worse unless there is a change
It seems there are two standards at play here
One for our players that Ivan has set the bar at
And another for Ivan Himself with no bar at all
Double standards if I have ever seen it
So
If it was up to me I would stand him down unless he was to re commit in the clubs favour
It would help end speculation so we can all get on with it and put this to bed
Or will this never end
Not even Cleary
Pasco and Go should take a hard stance
I dont know the answer to this but if it was up to me I would try and find a loop hole of some kind that would allow us to demote Ivan
A bit like demoting a player to ISP for not performing
Or showing up late for training
Or because he simply is not the best option for this game
Or because he simply in not putting in the effort that is expected of him (Ivan)
Now Ivan was contracted to do a job and to do it to his best ability
He himself came up with the the words to our players
"You are either on the bus or off the bus"
Now how can Ivan be on the Bus when he has clearly met with an apposing club who wish to sign him up as their head coach and this was distracting our team and Ivans own performance.
He could not have been focused 100% on his job that he was contracted to do
And it is clear at this point next season will be even worse unless there is a change
It seems there are two standards at play here
One for our players that Ivan has set the bar at
And another for Ivan Himself with no bar at all
Double standards if I have ever seen it
So
If it was up to me I would stand him down unless he was to re commit in the clubs favour
It would help end speculation so we can all get on with it and put this to bed
Or will this never end
Donald_Trump
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Agreed. There needs to be a line drawn in the sand and he needs to make a decision now. Otherwise we face a whole lot of uncertainty like we did with our “Big 4”.
goldcoast_tiger
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How does those who say that he has to sign an extension (or not be the Coach )get around the legality bits , such as he CANNOT be forced to sign an extension , and especially under duress, which involve threats of removing him from coaching,
Where is the hard evidence of any wrongdoing.
If he wants to continue to Coach here next year There’s not much that the club can do, which is maybe the reason that they’ve been remarkably quite.
Where is the hard evidence of any wrongdoing.
If he wants to continue to Coach here next year There’s not much that the club can do, which is maybe the reason that they’ve been remarkably quite.
goldcoast_tiger
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Sorry Willow I didn’t see your post before posting,
innsaneink
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Valid question imo and not crap that needs to be cut out
momo_amp_medo
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Yep agree totally.
Let’s turn the page.
We are just getting silly.
TIGERPOWER
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I think Cleary will happily leave to the panthers immediately and it won’t cost us one cents. I think we are the ones playing hardball and trying to get some form of compensation out of the panthers. That’s why we are holding onto him. Panthers comeback has been to offer Cleary a contract for 2021 to make us look stupid by having a coach on our books for those 2 years. I reckon it’s a game of chess going on behind the scenes.
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It’s a very simple discussion.
Would you entertain extending your deal for 3 years from 2020 we can improve your deal as we value what you bring to the table. The Answer will be NO.
Do you want to be released from your contract now to go and coach your son? Answer would be yes.
Speak to Gus we will do it now for 1.5m and we need a few players that don’t fit your style.
If not we will let you go in 2020 and we will announce it now so there are no ongoing issues.
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From Law Depot.
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Contracts need to be executed properly in order to be legally binding. Below you can find information about the key elements that make up a valid agreement, when a contract is considered void or reasons it can become voidable, and the steps you can take to make sure your contract is carried out correctly.
The Basic Elements of a Valid Contract
A valid contract is enforceable under state and federal laws, and contains all the required elements.
Offer and Acceptance
The two basic elements of a valid contract are “offer” and “acceptance”.
One party makes an offer (outlines what is provided), and the other party accepts the terms of the offer (usually in writing). Acceptance can take time, whereby the negotiation process takes place until an agreement is reached.
Legal Object and Capacity of Parties
The subject matter of the agreement must be legal and both parties must:
◾Freely agree to the terms
◾Be over the age of consent
◾Be able to mentally carry out the agreement
Consideration
A valid contract must have the element of consideration (a price or value) exchanged in the agreement. Consideration is not limited to money, and can include a right, interest, or benefit. Both parties must benefit in some form.
For instance, when one party sells their vehicle to another party, the seller receives money, and in exchange, the buyer receives the vehicle.
Written and Verbal
There are oral agreements that can be enforced, but some contracts are not valid unless they are in writing. Usually those that involve a large amount of consideration or debts, real property, or contracts that won’t be carried out for quite some time (e.g. a Last Will and Testament), need to be in written form.
In summary, a contract is valid if the agreement is consensual, legal, backed up with a promise of consideration, and it is executed by two adult parties who are in sound mind—both of which intend to hold up their end of the bargain.
What is the Difference Between “Void” and “Voidable” Contracts?
When a contract is void, it is not valid. It can never be enforced under state or federal laws. A void contract is null from the moment it was created and neither party is bound by the terms. Think of it as one that a court would never recognize or enforce because there are missing elements.
A contract can be void for the following reasons:
◾The terms of the agreement are illegal or against public policy (unlawful consideration or object)
◾A party was not of sound mind while signing the agreement
◾A party was under the age of consent
◾The terms are impossible
◾The contract restricts the rights of a party
Example: If an individual is hired by an employer and the terms of the employment agreement list illegal job responsibilities, this contract is void because it is against the law and does not adhere to valid contract elements.
Alternatively, a voidable contract is valid and may be enforceable in certain situations if both parties agree to move forward. One party is bound to the terms of the contract, whereas the other party can oppose the contract for legal reasons if they so choose. Therefore if the unbound party rejects the contract, it becomes voidable.
A contract can become voidable under the following circumstances:
◾A party was coerced or threatened into signing the agreement
◾**A party was under undue influence (one party is able to dominate the will of another)**
◾A party is not of sound mind or mentally competent (minor or mentally ill)
◾The terms of the contract were breached
◾Mutual mistakes on behalf of both parties
◾The contract is fraudulent (omitting or falsifying facts or information, or the intention to not carry out the promise in the contract)
◾Misrepresentation occurs (a false statement of fact)
goldcoast_tiger
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The trouble is we can’t win
innsaneink
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Only problem is Gus has said Ciraldo is coaching penrith next year
vlad
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So we’d get Tim Grant & MWZ back :laughing:
Nucky_Thompson
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You really have to be careful who you listen to. What gets me the most is I believed the bloke.
Nucky_Thompson
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Thanks qc
