Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

[innsaneink]

What’s ‘hilarious’ and ‘comival’ Is experienced and valued posters taking the piss out of all the other posters who are just writing genuine, heart felt opinions about stuff we care about. Less sarcasm might actually encourage more people to contribute

Don't see where it was said no one cares or cant post their heart felt opinions

Its funny because people basing their opinions on what is reported in the media were ready to string him up and run Cleary out of dodge….then when facts are presented from the club it's a total backflip....

But hey it was on TV..and in the paper

:laughing: You think Ivan hasn't nutted out a deal just cause he hasn't asked for a formal release yet….yeah righto :laughing:

What deal Gus said no offer has neen made.

The answer will be No

So youre going off what Gus said in media… a now proven liar... Yet have a go at others for esoonding to things on TV

 

[Tim Sheens]

The "original" conversation supposedly did not mention 2019, maybe, but why were their subsequent talks throughout the week?

Every minute that passes without a word from Cleary only causes further damage.

 

[Geo]

Don't see where it was said no one cares or cant post their heart felt opinions

Its funny because people basing their opinions on what is reported in the media were ready to string him up and run Cleary out of dodge….then when facts are presented from the club it's a total backflip....

But hey it was on TV..and in the paper

:laughing: You think Ivan hasn't nutted out a deal just cause he hasn't asked for a formal release yet….yeah righto :laughing:

What deal Gus said no offer has neen made.

The answer will be No

So youre going off what Gus said in media… a now proven liar... Yet have a go at others for esoonding to things on TV

From his mouth..not journalist interpretations and heresay…

 

[foreveratiger]

What deal Gus said no offer has neen made.

The answer will be No

Then why doesn’t Ivan come out and lay it all to rest ?

Is he sooking that WT won’t let him go ?
:laughing:

Did Gus ring you and told you that himself ? :laughing: you don't know anything .

Exactly hobbo , some make you laugh on here they still believe in the tooth ferry :laughing:

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“Ivan has not asked for a release at the Wests Tigers,” he said.
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“I could never see Wests Tigers releasing him from that deal, and to be honest I don’t think Ivan would pursue if the Tigers felt that way.”
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He was then asked if he could see Cleary coaching at the Panthers in 2019.
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“No, but the original conversation was not about next year it was about the future,” he said, explaining the original conversation between O’Neill and Cleary was innocent, rather than a deliberate play.
“Ivan has not asked for a release at the Wests Tigers,” he said.
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“I could never see Wests Tigers releasing him from that deal, and to be honest I don’t think Ivan would pursue if the Tigers felt that way.”
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He was then asked if he could see Cleary coaching at the Panthers in 2019.
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“No, but the original conversation was not about next year it was about the future,” he said, explaining the original conversation between O’Neill and Cleary was innocent, rather than a deliberate play.

Phillip Ronald Gould..

:roll cause his come out with this nothing has been organised behind closed doors ? come on . Gus playing Mr innocent in the media umm that's his job aswell .

Ivan is smart his sitting back and watching the scrutiny unfold remaining quiet , when all he needs to do is come out and put it to rest….but hey if Gus says so it's true :laughing:

 

[hobbo]

Phillip Ronald Gould..

This is the Man that Sacked Cleary for his own good and is moving the world to retain his son. WAKE UP!!

The evidence clearly shows that he will lie to whoever, when whenever.

Coaches that love Gould

Murry (Roosters)
Stuart (Roosters)
Elliot (Pen)
Cleary (Pen)
Griffen (Pen)

yeah they got peter facilities and a few good players…. but they also got Gould

You're right Penrith do have peter facilities. But as i have said before a 5 year old 10kg ball weight stills weighs the same as a brand new 10kg ball weight.

Yeah but our players are issued with cans of WD-40 and socket sets to free up rusty gym equipment!

Hardly makes going to training enjoyable!

 

[Yossarian]

What deal Gus said no offer has neen made.

The answer will be No

Then why doesn’t Ivan come out and lay it all to rest ?

Is he sooking that WT won’t let him go ?
:laughing:

Marina go addressed that last night..

I think Go’s been kept in the dark like the rest of us …

All she kept stating was ...
“As far as I know “...

Siebold was on the radio this morning squashing rumours about his tenure at Souths .
Why can’t ivan do the same ??

I know you don’t believe in TV and newspapers .....

Radio ??

I disagree. She came across as well-informed but cautious. She used "as far as I know" to reference stuff she heard third hand like Cleary's address to the players. Her contempt for Penrith and Gould was refreshingly clear.

 

[Geo]

Then why doesn’t Ivan come out and lay it all to rest ?

Is he sooking that WT won’t let him go ?
:laughing:

Did Gus ring you and told you that himself ? :laughing: you don't know anything .

Exactly hobbo , some make you laugh on here they still believe in the tooth ferry :laughing:

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“Ivan has not asked for a release at the Wests Tigers,” he said.
>
“I could never see Wests Tigers releasing him from that deal, and to be honest I don’t think Ivan would pursue if the Tigers felt that way.”
>
He was then asked if he could see Cleary coaching at the Panthers in 2019.
>
“No, but the original conversation was not about next year it was about the future,” he said, explaining the original conversation between O’Neill and Cleary was innocent, rather than a deliberate play.
“Ivan has not asked for a release at the Wests Tigers,” he said.
>
“I could never see Wests Tigers releasing him from that deal, and to be honest I don’t think Ivan would pursue if the Tigers felt that way.”
>
He was then asked if he could see Cleary coaching at the Panthers in 2019.
>
“No, but the original conversation was not about next year it was about the future,” he said, explaining the original conversation between O’Neill and Cleary was innocent, rather than a deliberate play.

Phillip Ronald Gould..

:roll cause his come out with this nothing has been organised behind closed doors ? come on . Gus playing Mr innocent in the media umm that's his job aswell .

Ivan is smart his sitting back and watching the scrutiny unfold remaining quiet , when all he needs to do is come out and put it to rest….but hey if Gus says so it's true :laughing:

OK..so when our CEO and Chair say things it's not true..?

This is doing more damage to the Penrith brand than it is to the Wests Tigers…

 

[The_Patriot]

What’s ‘hilarious’ and ‘comival’ Is experienced and valued posters taking the piss out of all the other posters who are just writing genuine, heart felt opinions about stuff we care about. Less sarcasm might actually encourage more people to contribute

Don't see where it was said no one cares or cant post their heart felt opinions

Its funny because people basing their opinions on what is reported in the media were ready to string him up and run Cleary out of dodge….then when facts are presented from the club it's a total backflip....

But hey it was on TV..and in the paper

People are responding emotionally to every ‘next bit’ of information. Me too. That’s to be expected.

Initially I think everyone was shocked that someone we respected could act totally against what he seemed to value. This turned to anger when it seemed to be true. Now it’s just pure confusion because of all the lies and spin. We don’t know what to believe.

And I think that’s fair enough at the moment

Steve you keep posting how you feel as events unfold as that's what the Forum is for , i'll continue to make my opinions on how i think things are unfolding not necessarily correct, but like you said making my mind of how things are panning out.

This Forum has always been a Power thing by the usual .
Some think they know more than other Member's but in reality there only supporters like you and i , They make it out they know more but really deedly squat….The Forum is all they know .

Yep reading it the same way. As more information comes out people start judging and ridiculing. Pretty sad.

No one has backflipped on anything. It's just that's it's a joke of a situation with both sides telling half truths.

Poor form for certain users.

 

[Geo]

Then why doesn’t Ivan come out and lay it all to rest ?

Is he sooking that WT won’t let him go ?
:laughing:

Marina go addressed that last night..

I think Go’s been kept in the dark like the rest of us …

All she kept stating was ...
“As far as I know “...

Siebold was on the radio this morning squashing rumours about his tenure at Souths .
Why can’t ivan do the same ??

I know you don’t believe in TV and newspapers .....

Radio ??

I disagree. She came across as well-informed but cautious. She used "as far as I know" to reference stuff she heard third hand like Cleary's address to the players. Her contempt for Penrith and Gould was refreshingly clear.

This..

 

[hobbo]

The "original" conversation supposedly did not mention 2019, maybe, but why were their subsequent talks throughout the week?

Every minute that passes without a word from Cleary only causes further damage.

Spot on !

 

[The_Queen]

The "original" conversation supposedly did not mention 2019, maybe, but why were their subsequent talks throughout the week?

Every minute that passes without a word from Cleary only causes further damage.

Spot on !

So sad but true

 

[WT2K]

The "original" conversation supposedly did not mention 2019, maybe, but why were their subsequent talks throughout the week?

Every minute that passes without a word from Cleary only causes further damage.

Agree. Needs to come out and address the issue.

 

[foreveratiger]

Then why doesn’t Ivan come out and lay it all to rest ?

Is he sooking that WT won’t let him go ?
:laughing:

Marina go addressed that last night..

I think Go’s been kept in the dark like the rest of us …

All she kept stating was ...
“As far as I know “...

Siebold was on the radio this morning squashing rumours about his tenure at Souths .
Why can’t ivan do the same ??

I know you don’t believe in TV and newspapers .....

Radio ??

I disagree. She came across as well-informed but cautious. She used "as far as I know" to reference stuff she heard third hand like Cleary's address to the players. Her contempt for Penrith and Gould was refreshingly clear.

Yes she did sound that way Yoss , but seriously she said she spoke to Ivan hours before the Griffen sacking happened , You think she didn't ask Ivan are you thinking of nutting out a deal ? Either his lying to her if he said NO or really she knows what he wants to do but is protecting the Club at the moment. Also could be a case of trying to get the most money possible on a compensation from Panthers.
All she had to say to Ivan " call a media conference tell them what your intentions are and put it to rest if he really wants to stay with the Tigers.

 

[magpiecol]

What’s ‘hilarious’ and ‘comival’ Is experienced and valued posters taking the piss out of all the other posters who are just writing genuine, heart felt opinions about stuff we care about. Less sarcasm might actually encourage more people to contribute

Don't see where it was said no one cares or cant post their heart felt opinions

Its funny because people basing their opinions on what is reported in the media were ready to string him up and run Cleary out of dodge….then when facts are presented from the club it's a total backflip....

But hey it was on TV..and in the paper

I don't know how many times I have to say it, you will know what is going on when it is announced officially by the club.

Speculation helps nobody.

People are throwing Ivan off the bus and under it without any reason.

Let’s all calm down and see what happens.

 

[Baze]

Gone…

 

[Tiger2135]

Assuming Ivan is leaving either now or in 2 years, what is our best way forward?

How about

1 Signing Griffin now as GM to set up our junior development pathway
2 Add the best coach we can find.
3 Use Penrith's compensation money to get the ball rolling on building our Centre of
Excellence
4 Forget obout the Clearys

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Gone…

What are we getting in return?

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Not a terribly ground breaking observation but I am impressed that not a word has leaked (that I know) from WTs. Comments have been confined to our Chair and CEO.

It demonstrates to me the significant improvements which have been made on and off the field under our new management.

Regardless of how this turns out, this must impress sponsors, prospective players and supporters.

 

[Baze]

Gone…

What are we getting in return?

Currently being negotiated.
Don’t have anymore than that sorry.

 

[cochise]

What if?
1\. Ivan hold genuine concerns over Nathan's development at Penrith.
2\. Tries to get him to the Tigers.
3\. Nathan tells Ivan that he wants to play footy with his mates at Penrith.
4\. Ivan schedules meeting to discuss his concerns with the people at Penrith.
5\. At this meeting its raised that Ivan could come and join Penrith to oversee Nathan's development.
6\. Blows in media
7\. What ever happens next.

Still a dog act but a little more context to the picture. Possibly true like any of the other theories floating around lol.