Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Fingers crossed, Cleary is not only going to turn down Gould but is working out to maximise the fall-out for Gould. Could be the sweetest revenge (or the darkest day…)
 
Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe insists he won't consider granting Cleary an early release, with the highly respected coach in the second year of his three-and-a-half year deal.

"No mate we would not," Pascoe said when asked if they would consider letting Cleary go.
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Hands off: Tigers issue swift edict to Penrith over Cleary
By Steve Zemek
7 August 2018 — 11:29am

The Wests Tigers have issued a hands-off edict to Penrith as the Panthers attempt to lure Ivan Cleary to the foot of the mountains as a replacement for Anthony Griffin.

Cleary has emerged as the Panthers' No.1 target despite the fact he still has two years to run on his NRL contract at the joint venture.

Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe insists he won't consider granting Cleary an early release, with the highly respected coach in the second year of his three-and-a-half year deal.

"No mate we would not," Pascoe said when asked if they would consider letting Cleary go.

It's understood Cleary has spoken to Panthers officials in the last few weeks and is the club's No.1 target due to his relationship with his son, Panthers halfback Nathan Cleary.

It would be an about-face from Cleary for him to cut-and-run on the Tigers and not see out the rebuild he began after taking over from Jason Taylor in April last year.

In his first press conference upon taking the Tigers' job, he famously told several of the club's wantaway stars including James Tedesco, Aaron Woods and Mitchell Moses that they needed to get "on the bus".

Cleary last week reiterated his desire to work with Nathan at some point during his career. His son is off contract at the end of 2019 and under NRL rules will be able to negotiate with rival clubs from November 1.

The Blues' State of Origin No.7 said he will consider his next career move on his 21st birthday in mid-November.

Should the Panthers snag Cleary, it would virtually ensure Nathan, considered a once-in-a-generation talent, would remain at the Panthers.

There are several sticking points, in particular the Tigers' willingness to let him go and Cleary's relationship with the Panthers after he was sacked less than three years ago.

Panthers general manager Phil Gould denied his relationship with Cleary had soured after he axed the coach following the 2015 season.

"It's good," Gould said. "I don't see him all that often but I've got no problem with Ivan.

"I've known him for 25 years. The Ivan decision was made in his best interests and my best interests.

"I believe I was right at the time - whether or not I was, it doesn't matter."
 
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If he doesn't leave, this thread is going to be hilarious to read back on. Some of his most staunch defenders have completely turned. Do they do a complete 360 if he does stay and go back to supporting him unconditionally?

If he does leave, it tops anything Taylor did, and i dare say the forums opinion of Cleary will be lower than JT.

If he has actually met with Penrith 2 weeks ago then my opinion of him has completely changed regardless of whether he stays or not.

Love how you manage to make it about JT again. JT’s problem was he couldn’t coach or manage players. He however never dogged the club, and pretty much did the dirty work for the board in getting rid of Farah. If Cleary is to leave the club, like others have said he would be seen in a worse light then Moses.
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Every one of us is entitled to change their mind based on current information.
 
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Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe insists he won't consider granting Cleary an early release, with the highly respected coach in the second year of his three-and-a-half year deal.

"No mate we would not," Pascoe said when asked if they would consider letting Cleary go.
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Hands off: Tigers issue swift edict to Penrith over Cleary
By Steve Zemek
7 August 2018 — 11:29am

The Wests Tigers have issued a hands-off edict to Penrith as the Panthers attempt to lure Ivan Cleary to the foot of the mountains as a replacement for Anthony Griffin.

Cleary has emerged as the Panthers' No.1 target despite the fact he still has two years to run on his NRL contract at the joint venture.

Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe insists he won't consider granting Cleary an early release, with the highly respected coach in the second year of his three-and-a-half year deal.

"No mate we would not," Pascoe said when asked if they would consider letting Cleary go.

It's understood Cleary has spoken to Panthers officials in the last few weeks and is the club's No.1 target due to his relationship with his son, Panthers halfback Nathan Cleary.

It would be an about-face from Cleary for him to cut-and-run on the Tigers and not see out the rebuild he began after taking over from Jason Taylor in April last year.

In his first press conference upon taking the Tigers' job, he famously told several of the club's wantaway stars including James Tedesco, Aaron Woods and Mitchell Moses that they needed to get "on the bus".

Cleary last week reiterated his desire to work with Nathan at some point during his career. His son is off contract at the end of 2019 and under NRL rules will be able to negotiate with rival clubs from November 1.

The Blues' State of Origin No.7 said he will consider his next career move on his 21st birthday in mid-November.

Should the Panthers snag Cleary, it would virtually ensure Nathan, considered a once-in-a-generation talent, would remain at the Panthers.

There are several sticking points, in particular the Tigers' willingness to let him go and Cleary's relationship with the Panthers after he was sacked less than three years ago.

Panthers general manager Phil Gould denied his relationship with Cleary had soured after he axed the coach following the 2015 season.

"It's good," Gould said. "I don't see him all that often but I've got no problem with Ivan.

"I've known him for 25 years. The Ivan decision was made in his best interests and my best interests.

"I believe I was right at the time - whether or not I was, it doesn't matter."
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haha nothing here suggests hes going.
 
I don't think he will go. I think he will stay. He would have to be an utter <censored>to leave now, and he comes across as a good person who wouldn't do that.</censored>
 
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i highly doubt ivan is going anywhere…
he built the bus....
it is funny reading all this speculation though.

When he saw what a clapped out piece of crap he made he is running for his life.
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you mean beating all the top teams?
 
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Ivan hates Gus. I'm told there's zero chance of him going back to Penrith. Won't happen.

When did you get this info Yoss?

Any chance you can find out the lateat from your source?

Someone who I believe knows about such things. I was told Ciraldo is strongly supported and that Cleary was basically no chance. I don't know what goes on in Gould's head though.

So are you hearing that IC is gone now?
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No. When did I say that?
 
Ivan wouldn't dog the boys. I am confident he will stay.

It'd be piss funny if he strung him along, Gould sacked Griffin in anticipation then he backflips and Nathan signs with Wests anyway. Sweetest way to screw him over.
 
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When did you get this info Yoss?

Any chance you can find out the lateat from your source?

Someone who I believe knows about such things. I was told Ciraldo is strongly supported and that Cleary was basically no chance. I don't know what goes on in Gould's head though.

So are you hearing that IC is gone now?

No. When did I say that?
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You didn't i was just asking

Sorry if it came across the wrong way
 
I still believe sanity will prevail and Ivan will remain at WT. Ivan Cleary is an exception to the NRL textbook in terms of methodology and honour, fingers crossed that is still the case.
 
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