JAC

[Cairnstigers]

I believe this statement is very accurate from a south forum guy and makes sense to me. The NSW camp with souths guys added by the rubbish Fittler says will move him away from Tigers.



I believe he went quiet earlier than that.

Well if that's the case I hope we don't start to grovel
We should move on
Now is the time to sign big name players for 2022
Its open slather now so no excuses
Surely we have done our homework on a few key players
We should strike fast and I don't think we should be waiting months and left hanging for an answer

 

[cochise]

I believe this statement is very accurate from a south forum guy and makes sense to me. The NSW camp with souths guys added by the rubbish Fittler says will move him away from Tigers.



I believe he went quiet earlier than that.

Well if that's the case I hope we don't start to grovel
We should move on
Now is the time to sign big name players for 2022
Its open slather now so no excuses
Surely we have done our homework on a few key players
We should strike fast and I don't think we should be waiting months and left hanging for an answer

Spot on mate

 

[tiger05premier]

I get the feeling he has been given approval to sign with us for 2022

2021 depended on a like for like replacement that never came

So be it

 

[JC99]

You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


Yes this is certainly the most logical way of looking at the JAC signing. Looking at those teams rosters and where they need strengthening, the Bulldogs really need to concentrate on buying decent halves and a hooker. They’d be mad to throw all their money at JAC and have nothing left to sign players in those key positions. If they go into next season with the same halves and hooker then having JAC in the backline won’t make a squat of difference and can kiss all their hopes goodbye. Surely Barrett, as a former half, can see this.

JAC is not what they need, they’ve already bought another SOO winger in Cotric and I think Meaney does a pretty good job for them at fullback. Not to mention if DWZ got back to his best he would be great! I don’t know what has happened to him actually, he started out great when he first signed with them, perhaps he is just not happy there.

Souths simply do not need another back, they are already stacked with quality backs and if JAC went there he would be competing with his mate Mitchell for the fullback spot, which is just ridiculous really since they only just courted Mitchell to play in that spot last year! Before his injury he certainly showed signs that he would become a very good fullback, imo and if he is injured long term fullback can be well and truly covered by either Allen or Johnston.

The Tigers are really the only team of those 3 that need JAC and can hand him the fullback role for him to make his own, no questions asked. I believe we are probably the ones with the best offer on the table also. So, logically JAC to us is a no brainer really, but logic doesn’t account for a person’s heart or emotions and if JAC ‘s heart isn’t in playing for us, then logic goes out the window and he signs elsewhere. What can ya do?

There is also the possibility I guess of another Sydney club coming out of left field and snaring his signature under the noses of all us, who knows?


Has anyone heard of any other club which has tabled an offer to JAC? Does anyone find that odd? I mean, given the quality of player he is?
From memory WT were the only club to table an offer to Mitchell. I’m not drawing any conclusion here, just eluding to a pattern of similarity.

That's the reason I think we got him. We are the ONLY club whe have officially tabled him an offer. The Dogs with JAC are all rumours. Sooooo . . . .

More than rumours, Barrett has said they’ve talked to JAC

You forgot the part where he reportedly said “it’s complicated”.
Welcome to our world bulldogs.

Melbourne making everyone’s life hard at the moment can’t blame them though

JAC is being a good fella and not kicking up a stink. It’s honourable and I respect him for it but it also gives Melbourne all the power regarding a release

How is JAC being a good fella? Good to who? By being indecisive, or at least by not saying yes or no to us, he certainly isn't helping us, as whilst we wait, other targets could be missed.

He could be stringing us along. He could have been stringing us along the whole time. We don't know that he has, but we don't know that he hasn't been.

Is he chucking a sook? Refusing to train? Badmouthing Melbourne? He’s being smart and mature and knows he’s asking for a release and shouldn’t demand/expect Melbourne to let him go no questions asked. If he had pulled a Matto he would already be released I think. Melbourne are the ones making life hard here

 

[JC99]

You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


Yes this is certainly the most logical way of looking at the JAC signing. Looking at those teams rosters and where they need strengthening, the Bulldogs really need to concentrate on buying decent halves and a hooker. They’d be mad to throw all their money at JAC and have nothing left to sign players in those key positions. If they go into next season with the same halves and hooker then having JAC in the backline won’t make a squat of difference and can kiss all their hopes goodbye. Surely Barrett, as a former half, can see this.

JAC is not what they need, they’ve already bought another SOO winger in Cotric and I think Meaney does a pretty good job for them at fullback. Not to mention if DWZ got back to his best he would be great! I don’t know what has happened to him actually, he started out great when he first signed with them, perhaps he is just not happy there.

Souths simply do not need another back, they are already stacked with quality backs and if JAC went there he would be competing with his mate Mitchell for the fullback spot, which is just ridiculous really since they only just courted Mitchell to play in that spot last year! Before his injury he certainly showed signs that he would become a very good fullback, imo and if he is injured long term fullback can be well and truly covered by either Allen or Johnston.

The Tigers are really the only team of those 3 that need JAC and can hand him the fullback role for him to make his own, no questions asked. I believe we are probably the ones with the best offer on the table also. So, logically JAC to us is a no brainer really, but logic doesn’t account for a person’s heart or emotions and if JAC ‘s heart isn’t in playing for us, then logic goes out the window and he signs elsewhere. What can ya do?

There is also the possibility I guess of another Sydney club coming out of left field and snaring his signature under the noses of all us, who knows?


Has anyone heard of any other club which has tabled an offer to JAC? Does anyone find that odd? I mean, given the quality of player he is?
From memory WT were the only club to table an offer to Mitchell. I’m not drawing any conclusion here, just eluding to a pattern of similarity.

That's the reason I think we got him. We are the ONLY club whe have officially tabled him an offer. The Dogs with JAC are all rumours. Sooooo . . . .

More than rumours, Barrett has said they’ve talked to JAC

You forgot the part where he reportedly said “it’s complicated”.
Welcome to our world bulldogs.

Melbourne making everyone’s life hard at the moment can’t blame them though

JAC is being a good fella and not kicking up a stink. It’s honourable and I respect him for it but it also gives Melbourne all the power regarding a release

Well my view is that Madge has said firm NO to Melbourne cherry picks from our ranks. I also think that Madge being a straight shooter has outlined his plan for the player advising that there are no guarantees for fullback gig.
So if Melbourne don’t get like for like (and there’s unlikely a player out there that fits that bil) and JAC is willing to spend another year down South ..... then 2022 season is on drawing board for him ...... and then he could end up anywhere.
If that’s the case we should cut our losses and look to more solid recruitment options.
Paying high $s for “ I don’t care how good he is” winger is just stupid.

Yeah I’m pretty sure Madge is playing hardball as are Melbourne

We should push him to sign for 2022 as soon as possible

If he’s not coming for 2021 there is zero chance he’s coming for 2022. There will be a number of other clubs in a position to offer him for 2022, including South’s (if they’re not already).

At this point in time it’s Melbourne not letting him go. There’s a chance he does want to join but isn’t able to yet, and he’s done the heads of agreement thing so maybe he is keen on coming.

If he doesn’t commit to join in 2022 then we can ask some questions about what he wants, but it doesn’t hurt to push him to sign if he’s truthful about coming here

 

[JD Tiger]

You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


Yes this is certainly the most logical way of looking at the JAC signing. Looking at those teams rosters and where they need strengthening, the Bulldogs really need to concentrate on buying decent halves and a hooker. They’d be mad to throw all their money at JAC and have nothing left to sign players in those key positions. If they go into next season with the same halves and hooker then having JAC in the backline won’t make a squat of difference and can kiss all their hopes goodbye. Surely Barrett, as a former half, can see this.

JAC is not what they need, they’ve already bought another SOO winger in Cotric and I think Meaney does a pretty good job for them at fullback. Not to mention if DWZ got back to his best he would be great! I don’t know what has happened to him actually, he started out great when he first signed with them, perhaps he is just not happy there.

Souths simply do not need another back, they are already stacked with quality backs and if JAC went there he would be competing with his mate Mitchell for the fullback spot, which is just ridiculous really since they only just courted Mitchell to play in that spot last year! Before his injury he certainly showed signs that he would become a very good fullback, imo and if he is injured long term fullback can be well and truly covered by either Allen or Johnston.

The Tigers are really the only team of those 3 that need JAC and can hand him the fullback role for him to make his own, no questions asked. I believe we are probably the ones with the best offer on the table also. So, logically JAC to us is a no brainer really, but logic doesn’t account for a person’s heart or emotions and if JAC ‘s heart isn’t in playing for us, then logic goes out the window and he signs elsewhere. What can ya do?

There is also the possibility I guess of another Sydney club coming out of left field and snaring his signature under the noses of all us, who knows?


Has anyone heard of any other club which has tabled an offer to JAC? Does anyone find that odd? I mean, given the quality of player he is?
From memory WT were the only club to table an offer to Mitchell. I’m not drawing any conclusion here, just eluding to a pattern of similarity.

That's the reason I think we got him. We are the ONLY club whe have officially tabled him an offer. The Dogs with JAC are all rumours. Sooooo . . . .

More than rumours, Barrett has said they’ve talked to JAC

You forgot the part where he reportedly said “it’s complicated”.
Welcome to our world bulldogs.

Melbourne making everyone’s life hard at the moment can’t blame them though

JAC is being a good fella and not kicking up a stink. It’s honourable and I respect him for it but it also gives Melbourne all the power regarding a release

How is JAC being a good fella? Good to who? By being indecisive, or at least by not saying yes or no to us, he certainly isn't helping us, as whilst we wait, other targets could be missed.

He could be stringing us along. He could have been stringing us along the whole time. We don't know that he has, but we don't know that he hasn't been.

Is he chucking a sook? Refusing to train? Badmouthing Melbourne? He’s being smart and mature and knows he’s asking for a release and shouldn’t demand/expect Melbourne to let him go no questions asked. If he had pulled a Matto he would already be released I think. Melbourne are the ones making life hard here

None of that does us any good. So he's being good to Storm?

 

[Geo]

Is a heads of agreement like a letter of intent..?

 

[JC99]

You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


Yes this is certainly the most logical way of looking at the JAC signing. Looking at those teams rosters and where they need strengthening, the Bulldogs really need to concentrate on buying decent halves and a hooker. They’d be mad to throw all their money at JAC and have nothing left to sign players in those key positions. If they go into next season with the same halves and hooker then having JAC in the backline won’t make a squat of difference and can kiss all their hopes goodbye. Surely Barrett, as a former half, can see this.

JAC is not what they need, they’ve already bought another SOO winger in Cotric and I think Meaney does a pretty good job for them at fullback. Not to mention if DWZ got back to his best he would be great! I don’t know what has happened to him actually, he started out great when he first signed with them, perhaps he is just not happy there.

Souths simply do not need another back, they are already stacked with quality backs and if JAC went there he would be competing with his mate Mitchell for the fullback spot, which is just ridiculous really since they only just courted Mitchell to play in that spot last year! Before his injury he certainly showed signs that he would become a very good fullback, imo and if he is injured long term fullback can be well and truly covered by either Allen or Johnston.

The Tigers are really the only team of those 3 that need JAC and can hand him the fullback role for him to make his own, no questions asked. I believe we are probably the ones with the best offer on the table also. So, logically JAC to us is a no brainer really, but logic doesn’t account for a person’s heart or emotions and if JAC ‘s heart isn’t in playing for us, then logic goes out the window and he signs elsewhere. What can ya do?

There is also the possibility I guess of another Sydney club coming out of left field and snaring his signature under the noses of all us, who knows?


Has anyone heard of any other club which has tabled an offer to JAC? Does anyone find that odd? I mean, given the quality of player he is?
From memory WT were the only club to table an offer to Mitchell. I’m not drawing any conclusion here, just eluding to a pattern of similarity.

That's the reason I think we got him. We are the ONLY club whe have officially tabled him an offer. The Dogs with JAC are all rumours. Sooooo . . . .

More than rumours, Barrett has said they’ve talked to JAC

You forgot the part where he reportedly said “it’s complicated”.
Welcome to our world bulldogs.

Melbourne making everyone’s life hard at the moment can’t blame them though

JAC is being a good fella and not kicking up a stink. It’s honourable and I respect him for it but it also gives Melbourne all the power regarding a release

How is JAC being a good fella? Good to who? By being indecisive, or at least by not saying yes or no to us, he certainly isn't helping us, as whilst we wait, other targets could be missed.

He could be stringing us along. He could have been stringing us along the whole time. We don't know that he has, but we don't know that he hasn't been.

Is he chucking a sook? Refusing to train? Badmouthing Melbourne? He’s being smart and mature and knows he’s asking for a release and shouldn’t demand/expect Melbourne to let him go no questions asked. If he had pulled a Matto he would already be released I think. Melbourne are the ones making life hard here

None of that does us any good. So he's being good to Storm?

That’s exactly my point, he’s being mature and not causing a big drama for Melbourne. Gives Melbourne all the power in negotiations and makes our life a lot harder ?

 

[Wombat]

Seesm like Tartak is just trying to get him either more money or get a player swap from the Tigers to hurry the process along. Leaking reports of interest from other clubs (even though apparently no other contracts are on the table) and JAC is happy in Melbourne (Even though he was moving for family)

 

[JC99]

Seesm like Tartak is just trying to get him either more money or get a player swap from the Tigers to hurry the process along. Leaking reports of interest from other clubs (even though apparently no other contracts are on the table) and JAC is happy in Melbourne (Even though he was moving for family)

Great point. Definitely good be them pushing us to get a deal done with Melbourne

 

[Viking Warrior]

Is a heads of agreement like a letter of intent..?

Yes in most cases not legally binding

 

[Geo]

Is a heads of agreement like a letter of intent..?

Yes in most cases not legally binding

But our letters of intent end up stuck in the bottom drawer..

 

[Newtown]

He is not called the Foxx for nothing. How do we know that he/Melbourne haven't been stringing along the Wests Tigers ala Mitchell?

 

[Viking Warrior]

Is a heads of agreement like a letter of intent..?

Yes in most cases not legally binding

But our letters of intent end up stuck in the bottom drawer..

No we keep everything in our trophy cabinet now since we got done for Farah and his ambassador deal. The nrl auditors will never look in there.

 

[hsvjones]

You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


Yes this is certainly the most logical way of looking at the JAC signing. Looking at those teams rosters and where they need strengthening, the Bulldogs really need to concentrate on buying decent halves and a hooker. They’d be mad to throw all their money at JAC and have nothing left to sign players in those key positions. If they go into next season with the same halves and hooker then having JAC in the backline won’t make a squat of difference and can kiss all their hopes goodbye. Surely Barrett, as a former half, can see this.

JAC is not what they need, they’ve already bought another SOO winger in Cotric and I think Meaney does a pretty good job for them at fullback. Not to mention if DWZ got back to his best he would be great! I don’t know what has happened to him actually, he started out great when he first signed with them, perhaps he is just not happy there.

Souths simply do not need another back, they are already stacked with quality backs and if JAC went there he would be competing with his mate Mitchell for the fullback spot, which is just ridiculous really since they only just courted Mitchell to play in that spot last year! Before his injury he certainly showed signs that he would become a very good fullback, imo and if he is injured long term fullback can be well and truly covered by either Allen or Johnston.

The Tigers are really the only team of those 3 that need JAC and can hand him the fullback role for him to make his own, no questions asked. I believe we are probably the ones with the best offer on the table also. So, logically JAC to us is a no brainer really, but logic doesn’t account for a person’s heart or emotions and if JAC ‘s heart isn’t in playing for us, then logic goes out the window and he signs elsewhere. What can ya do?

There is also the possibility I guess of another Sydney club coming out of left field and snaring his signature under the noses of all us, who knows?


Has anyone heard of any other club which has tabled an offer to JAC? Does anyone find that odd? I mean, given the quality of player he is?
From memory WT were the only club to table an offer to Mitchell. I’m not drawing any conclusion here, just eluding to a pattern of similarity.

That's the reason I think we got him. We are the ONLY club whe have officially tabled him an offer. The Dogs with JAC are all rumours. Sooooo . . . .

More than rumours, Barrett has said they’ve talked to JAC

You forgot the part where he reportedly said “it’s complicated”.
Welcome to our world bulldogs.

Melbourne making everyone’s life hard at the moment can’t blame them though

JAC is being a good fella and not kicking up a stink. It’s honourable and I respect him for it but it also gives Melbourne all the power regarding a release

Well my view is that Madge has said firm NO to Melbourne cherry picks from our ranks. I also think that Madge being a straight shooter has outlined his plan for the player advising that there are no guarantees for fullback gig.
So if Melbourne don’t get like for like (and there’s unlikely a player out there that fits that bil) and JAC is willing to spend another year down South ..... then 2022 season is on drawing board for him ...... and then he could end up anywhere.
If that’s the case we should cut our losses and look to more solid recruitment options.
Paying high $s for “ I don’t care how good he is” winger is just stupid.

Yeah I’m pretty sure Madge is playing hardball as are Melbourne

We should push him to sign for 2022 as soon as possible

If he’s not coming for 2021 there is zero chance he’s coming for 2022. There will be a number of other clubs in a position to offer him for 2022, including South’s (if they’re not already).

At this point in time it’s Melbourne not letting him go. There’s a chance he does want to join but isn’t able to yet, and he’s done the heads of agreement thing so maybe he is keen on coming.

If he doesn’t commit to join in 2022 then we can ask some questions about what he wants, but it doesn’t hurt to push him to sign if he’s truthful about coming here

I Agree as that will bring the truth to the table... If not I say move on and if he comes back and we have the money still there then so be it..

 

[finnzo]

What on earth is the point of a letter of intent if it’s not legal Binding?

 

[Aubanon]

What on earth is the point of a letter of intent if it’s not legal Binding?

Basically a draft for the actual contract

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

He is not called the Foxx for nothing. How do we know that he/Melbourne haven't been stringing along the Wests Tigers ala Mitchell?

My thoughts exactly, it looks more and more like LM deja vu!:angry:

 

[Newtown]

Is a heads of agreement like a letter of intent..?

Yes in most cases not legally binding

But our letters of intent end up stuck in the bottom drawer..

No we keep everything in our trophy cabinet now since we got done for Farah and his ambassador deal. The nrl auditors will never look in there.

There's plenty of empty space in that Trophy cabinet.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

With all this going on at the moment should WT'S continue it on or draw a line in the sand and call it for what is and whilst JAC is a good player what impact will these negotiations have on team morale and any future dealings with other players where we can be seen as a soft touch to further their contract value.Thus is whats been reported today

That’s led to a change of heart, with Channel 9 saying that Addo-Carr was open to the possibility of playing for the Storm for one more year.

The winger has attracted interest from the Tigers, Bulldogs and South Sydney, even signing a heads of agreement with Michael Maguire’s side.







However, Channel 9 claim that he will now consider staying at the Storm for one more year as no likely switch has emerged.

It would be a huge boost for Craig Bellamy in his final year as Melbourne coach to keep a player of Addo-Carr’s quality.

Bellamy will likely be without Cameron Smith and Suliasi Vunivalu next season, while rising forward Tino Fa’asuamaleaui will head to the Titans.