JAC

[pawsandclaws1]

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1322831679732424704?s=21

Can’t understand not wanting to give them Talau especially now Josh is willing to stay at Melbourne for another season

Unless Talau becomes an Australian level player it will not be worth it. Maybe they think that highly of him at the club

Hey Josh
Don’t be sucker mate .... it’s a game game of bluff poker.
We don’t need to give them anything that we want/need to keep.

Melbourne will be quite happy to keep him another season, they get a top quality winger on the cheap it’s much better for them. They can hold out for a swap all season long if need be

Come 2022 the entire nrl will chase him and we will have no chance.

Then that's the way it plays out.

Then we miss out on yet another big signing due to our club being dumb. Not really on board with that one

Yeah we disagree on that. I don't believe in giving up a player to sign another.

Why not if it is going to strengthen the team

Because you don't get full value out of the player you are signing, we will be stronger on that wing but weaker somewhere else. So for full freight of what JAC is worth we get all his skill but we minus what Nofa brings to the team. We don't have a ready made replacement that brings what Nofa brings so we either find someone that matches him or we lose out in that position. Now overall we end up with a net gain, but is the net gain we achieve worth what we are paying JAC at full freight.

We have offered him what he is worth with a chance to earn more. He either comes or he doesn't.

If it's one or the other I'd take JAC over Noff. Swapping Talau or Momo wouldn't take a second to think about

I'd take JAC over Nofa too, but that is not what I was saying. We are willing to pay full freight on JAC, by giving up a player we don't get full worth unless we can find another player to replace what Nofa does for the team..

I see what your saying, but the value of having JAC will still be better than have Noff.
I wouldn't give him up straight away ,
but if it came down to being the clincher then seeyaa Noff.

No the clincher is "See ya JAC" because Nofo doesn't want to go and Madge doesn't want him to go.

That doesn't take a second either.

Yes, just rinse and repeat 2020. It's time for change and if Nofoaluma went a good replacement could be found from within.

 

[Russell]

On the radio a few minutes ago, headline was JAC could stay at the Storm. But the actual story is Storm want a replacement.

JAC is crucial to our rebuild. Get the deal done.

It'd be great to get him but making it so one dimensional isn't helpful. He'd be good but he isn't the key to our rebuild. The key is developing a quality squad. JAC would help us do that but if we miss out there will be other players.

We need quality. JAC is quality and has a soft spot for WTs. The cast offs and rejects mentioned from other clubs don't cut it.

If he had a soft spot, he would be here already.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

On the radio a few minutes ago, headline was JAC could stay at the Storm. But the actual story is Storm want a replacement.

JAC is crucial to our rebuild. Get the deal done.

It'd be great to get him but making it so one dimensional isn't helpful. He'd be good but he isn't the key to our rebuild. The key is developing a quality squad. JAC would help us do that but if we miss out there will be other players.

We need quality. JAC is quality and has a soft spot for WTs. The cast offs and rejects mentioned from other clubs don't cut it.

If he had a soft spot, he would be here already.

As I wrote, rinse and repeat 2020 if you are not prepared to make changes.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1322831679732424704?s=21

Can’t understand not wanting to give them Talau especially now Josh is willing to stay at Melbourne for another season

Unless Talau becomes an Australian level player it will not be worth it. Maybe they think that highly of him at the club

Hey Josh
Don’t be sucker mate .... it’s a game game of bluff poker.
We don’t need to give them anything that we want/need to keep.

Melbourne will be quite happy to keep him another season, they get a top quality winger on the cheap it’s much better for them. They can hold out for a swap all season long if need be

Come 2022 the entire nrl will chase him and we will have no chance.

Then that's the way it plays out.

Then we miss out on yet another big signing due to our club being dumb. Not really on board with that one

Yeah we disagree on that. I don't believe in giving up a player to sign another.

Why not if it is going to strengthen the team

Because you don't get full value out of the player you are signing, we will be stronger on that wing but weaker somewhere else. So for full freight of what JAC is worth we get all his skill but we minus what Nofa brings to the team. We don't have a ready made replacement that brings what Nofa brings so we either find someone that matches him or we lose out in that position. Now overall we end up with a net gain, but is the net gain we achieve worth what we are paying JAC at full freight.

We have offered him what he is worth with a chance to earn more. He either comes or he doesn't.

If it's one or the other I'd take JAC over Noff. Swapping Talau or Momo wouldn't take a second to think about

I'd take JAC over Nofa too, but that is not what I was saying. We are willing to pay full freight on JAC, by giving up a player we don't get full worth unless we can find another player to replace what Nofa does for the team..

I see what your saying, but the value of having JAC will still be better than have Noff.
I wouldn't give him up straight away ,
but if it came down to being the clincher then seeyaa Noff.

No the clincher is "See ya JAC" because Nofo doesn't want to go and Madge doesn't want him to go.

That doesn't take a second either.

Yes, just rinse and repeat 2020. It's time for change and if Nofoaluma went a good replacement could be found from within.

Nofo is not signed yet for 2022 and beyond is he ? Madge doesn't want him to go as a swap for JAC for 2021 hopefully at the right price Nofo is here for 2022 wonder when that resigning will occur, he will create interest from clubs

 

[pawsandclaws1]

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1322831679732424704?s=21

Can’t understand not wanting to give them Talau especially now Josh is willing to stay at Melbourne for another season

Unless Talau becomes an Australian level player it will not be worth it. Maybe they think that highly of him at the club

Hey Josh
Don’t be sucker mate .... it’s a game game of bluff poker.
We don’t need to give them anything that we want/need to keep.

Melbourne will be quite happy to keep him another season, they get a top quality winger on the cheap it’s much better for them. They can hold out for a swap all season long if need be

Come 2022 the entire nrl will chase him and we will have no chance.

Then that's the way it plays out.

Then we miss out on yet another big signing due to our club being dumb. Not really on board with that one

Yeah we disagree on that. I don't believe in giving up a player to sign another.

Why not if it is going to strengthen the team

Because you don't get full value out of the player you are signing, we will be stronger on that wing but weaker somewhere else. So for full freight of what JAC is worth we get all his skill but we minus what Nofa brings to the team. We don't have a ready made replacement that brings what Nofa brings so we either find someone that matches him or we lose out in that position. Now overall we end up with a net gain, but is the net gain we achieve worth what we are paying JAC at full freight.

We have offered him what he is worth with a chance to earn more. He either comes or he doesn't.

If it's one or the other I'd take JAC over Noff. Swapping Talau or Momo wouldn't take a second to think about

I'd take JAC over Nofa too, but that is not what I was saying. We are willing to pay full freight on JAC, by giving up a player we don't get full worth unless we can find another player to replace what Nofa does for the team..

I see what your saying, but the value of having JAC will still be better than have Noff.
I wouldn't give him up straight away ,
but if it came down to being the clincher then seeyaa Noff.

No the clincher is "See ya JAC" because Nofo doesn't want to go and Madge doesn't want him to go.

That doesn't take a second either.

Yes, just rinse and repeat 2020. It's time for change and if Nofoaluma went a good replacement could be found from within.

Nofo is not signed yet for 2022 and beyond is he ? Madge doesn't want him to go as a swap for JAC for 2021 hopefully at the right price Nofo is here for 2022 wonder when that resigning will occur, he will create interest from clubs

Having two wingers on big dollars to me isn't viable. Junior development is about succession planning. We have not been able to develop a strike player of JAC's ability since he departed. By end of 2022, we certainly will imo have a player capable of playing on the wing from within our juniors with genuine pace.

 

[Russell]

On the radio a few minutes ago, headline was JAC could stay at the Storm. But the actual story is Storm want a replacement.

JAC is crucial to our rebuild. Get the deal done.

It'd be great to get him but making it so one dimensional isn't helpful. He'd be good but he isn't the key to our rebuild. The key is developing a quality squad. JAC would help us do that but if we miss out there will be other players.

We need quality. JAC is quality and has a soft spot for WTs. The cast offs and rejects mentioned from other clubs don't cut it.

I'm not doubting that JAC is a quality player and we want to get him. I'm just stating that you don't control that outcome. You put a good offer in, you don't get caught up in the media and fan dribble and you let JAC make the decision.

At the same time you are continually on the lookout for players that will fit our system.

If cast offs and rejects fit our system and the players we want here and you can get them a little cheaper go for it. I reckon Douiehi is a classic example of a guy we can build around and he is a reject.

The players we need rarely find their way to the reject bin. Why do some coaches believe they can magically turn DWZ into a an incisive, consistent strike centre or winger? When he shows you whom he is, believe him! Is it arrogance that I know better than anyone else? I am concerned we purchased Leilua J whom is a dud. I don't want that repeated otherwise my faith in the new management would be sorely tried.

BJ is a good example to me of a good contract for us. The guy can play. When he is one he is really good. He just has a lot of downsides to his game as well. We can get rid of him though after this season so he has to perform. That is why it's a good contract. The downside isn't that bad.

I get what you are stating though. We need quality players to improve and that means top end players. It's hard to purchase those guys though. It's not often they come on the market. I don't think we can rely on signing those guys.

Don't worry Joey will be on in 2021 - The solution was no Benji and all his baggage.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1322831679732424704?s=21

Can’t understand not wanting to give them Talau especially now Josh is willing to stay at Melbourne for another season

Unless Talau becomes an Australian level player it will not be worth it. Maybe they think that highly of him at the club

Hey Josh
Don’t be sucker mate .... it’s a game game of bluff poker.
We don’t need to give them anything that we want/need to keep.

Melbourne will be quite happy to keep him another season, they get a top quality winger on the cheap it’s much better for them. They can hold out for a swap all season long if need be

Come 2022 the entire nrl will chase him and we will have no chance.

Then that's the way it plays out.

Then we miss out on yet another big signing due to our club being dumb. Not really on board with that one

Yeah we disagree on that. I don't believe in giving up a player to sign another.

Why not if it is going to strengthen the team

Because you don't get full value out of the player you are signing, we will be stronger on that wing but weaker somewhere else. So for full freight of what JAC is worth we get all his skill but we minus what Nofa brings to the team. We don't have a ready made replacement that brings what Nofa brings so we either find someone that matches him or we lose out in that position. Now overall we end up with a net gain, but is the net gain we achieve worth what we are paying JAC at full freight.

We have offered him what he is worth with a chance to earn more. He either comes or he doesn't.

If it's one or the other I'd take JAC over Noff. Swapping Talau or Momo wouldn't take a second to think about

I'd take JAC over Nofa too, but that is not what I was saying. We are willing to pay full freight on JAC, by giving up a player we don't get full worth unless we can find another player to replace what Nofa does for the team..

I see what your saying, but the value of having JAC will still be better than have Noff.
I wouldn't give him up straight away ,
but if it came down to being the clincher then seeyaa Noff.

No the clincher is "See ya JAC" because Nofo doesn't want to go and Madge doesn't want him to go.

That doesn't take a second either.

Yes, just rinse and repeat 2020. It's time for change and if Nofoaluma went a good replacement could be found from within.

Nofo is not signed yet for 2022 and beyond is he ? Madge doesn't want him to go as a swap for JAC for 2021 hopefully at the right price Nofo is here for 2022 wonder when that resigning will occur, he will create interest from clubs

Having two wingers on big dollars to me isn't viable. Junior development is about succession planning. We have not been able to develop a strike player of JAC's ability since he departed. By end of 2022, we certainly will imo have a player capable of playing on the wing from within our juniors with genuine pace.

good point.
I am not Nofo's biggest supporter despite a cracking 2020 I can't forgive previous poor years defensively. However at the right price at 450k no upgrades then he is value, we do seem to have some young prospects coming through.
if it is a bidding war I would rather the club secure JAC and some other players and use Nofo money elsewhere

 

[Russell]

I smell a rat in Redfern,Roberts not required,Allen shopped around under the guise of upgrading LM....
Lets see,I dont think they can get the cap right to squeeze in JAC for 2021,but if they get rid of some player(s)and get the cap right for 2022 then they get JAC,thats why the "I can stay in Melb for one more year"..
I dont think the family situation has changed,I think he wants to be with the brotherhood...his manager has used us as a vehicle hence the HOA....the deal with us is just a foil,we havent got anyone to swap with,Melb know it and Jacs manager knows it..

Absolutely agree with this TT - thought the same thing myself.

He has always wanted to play with the Bro's....

 

[Russell]

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1322831679732424704?s=21

Can’t understand not wanting to give them Talau especially now Josh is willing to stay at Melbourne for another season

Unless Talau becomes an Australian level player it will not be worth it. Maybe they think that highly of him at the club

Hey Josh
Don’t be sucker mate .... it’s a game game of bluff poker.
We don’t need to give them anything that we want/need to keep.

Melbourne will be quite happy to keep him another season, they get a top quality winger on the cheap it’s much better for them. They can hold out for a swap all season long if need be

Come 2022 the entire nrl will chase him and we will have no chance.

Then that's the way it plays out.

Then we miss out on yet another big signing due to our club being dumb. Not really on board with that one

Yeah we disagree on that. I don't believe in giving up a player to sign another.

Why not if it is going to strengthen the team

Because you don't get full value out of the player you are signing, we will be stronger on that wing but weaker somewhere else. So for full freight of what JAC is worth we get all his skill but we minus what Nofa brings to the team. We don't have a ready made replacement that brings what Nofa brings so we either find someone that matches him or we lose out in that position. Now overall we end up with a net gain, but is the net gain we achieve worth what we are paying JAC at full freight.

We have offered him what he is worth with a chance to earn more. He either comes or he doesn't.

If it's one or the other I'd take JAC over Noff. Swapping Talau or Momo wouldn't take a second to think about

I'd take JAC over Nofa too, but that is not what I was saying. We are willing to pay full freight on JAC, by giving up a player we don't get full worth unless we can find another player to replace what Nofa does for the team..

I see what your saying, but the value of having JAC will still be better than have Noff.
I wouldn't give him up straight away ,
but if it came down to being the clincher then seeyaa Noff.

No the clincher is "See ya JAC" because Nofo doesn't want to go and Madge doesn't want him to go.

That doesn't take a second either.

Yes, just rinse and repeat 2020. It's time for change and if Nofoaluma went a good replacement could be found from within.

Why would Noffo go?

Don't say because of Bellamy, or a premiership winning team, loyal to the club so he will do what they ask etc. etc.

You still have to go to stinking Melbourne and LEAVE your family.

Exactly the same thing you are trying to overcome with JAC - reunite WITH his family.

The scenario is a joke.

You want JAC .... Buy him!!!

Don't expect others to ruin their life to satisfy a few fan objectives.

If he is being this difficult - forget him, he is just a fast winger who will not win us a premiership, might help in some small way but he is NOT a must have spine player.

 

[Russell]

On the radio a few minutes ago, headline was JAC could stay at the Storm. But the actual story is Storm want a replacement.

JAC is crucial to our rebuild. Get the deal done.

It'd be great to get him but making it so one dimensional isn't helpful. He'd be good but he isn't the key to our rebuild. The key is developing a quality squad. JAC would help us do that but if we miss out there will be other players.

We need quality. JAC is quality and has a soft spot for WTs. The cast offs and rejects mentioned from other clubs don't cut it.

If he had a soft spot, he would be here already.

As I wrote, rinse and repeat 2020 if you are not prepared to make changes.

If he had a soft spot, he would not have left in the first place.

 

[gallagher]

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1322831679732424704?s=21

Can’t understand not wanting to give them Talau especially now Josh is willing to stay at Melbourne for another season

Unless Talau becomes an Australian level player it will not be worth it. Maybe they think that highly of him at the club

Hey Josh
Don’t be sucker mate .... it’s a game game of bluff poker.
We don’t need to give them anything that we want/need to keep.

Melbourne will be quite happy to keep him another season, they get a top quality winger on the cheap it’s much better for them. They can hold out for a swap all season long if need be

Come 2022 the entire nrl will chase him and we will have no chance.

Then that's the way it plays out.

Then we miss out on yet another big signing due to our club being dumb. Not really on board with that one

Yeah we disagree on that. I don't believe in giving up a player to sign another.

Why not if it is going to strengthen the team

Because you don't get full value out of the player you are signing, we will be stronger on that wing but weaker somewhere else. So for full freight of what JAC is worth we get all his skill but we minus what Nofa brings to the team. We don't have a ready made replacement that brings what Nofa brings so we either find someone that matches him or we lose out in that position. Now overall we end up with a net gain, but is the net gain we achieve worth what we are paying JAC at full freight.

We have offered him what he is worth with a chance to earn more. He either comes or he doesn't.

If it's one or the other I'd take JAC over Noff. Swapping Talau or Momo wouldn't take a second to think about

I'd take JAC over Nofa too, but that is not what I was saying. We are willing to pay full freight on JAC, by giving up a player we don't get full worth unless we can find another player to replace what Nofa does for the team..

I see what your saying, but the value of having JAC will still be better than have Noff.
I wouldn't give him up straight away ,
but if it came down to being the clincher then seeyaa Noff.

No the clincher is "See ya JAC" because Nofo doesn't want to go and Madge doesn't want him to go.

That doesn't take a second either.

Yes, the club doesn't have any balls to release fan favorites. Actually it did once then brought him back.

 

[shifty]

If u believe anyone on the Souths forum, Josh Mansour may be headed there...guys are about as reliable as Smoking Gun.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I said last week Mansour looking to be moved on from Penrith to accommodate Staines, I wish storm would look at Mansour would solve some problems.

 

[shifty]

I said last week Mansour looking to be moved on from Penrith to accommodate Staines, I wish storm would look at Mansour would solve some problems.

Would definitely help us out

 

[balmain boy]

Mansour to the Dogs. Possibly Naden too.

 

[fibrodreaming]

Yes, the club doesn’t have any balls to release fan favorites.

The club can't win with the fans.

On the one hand fans claim that the club didn't have the balls to stand up to the Eels. The club caved in and released Matterson.

While on the other hand, fans claim that the club didn't have the balls to cave in to Melbourne and give them the fan-favourite that Melbourne has been demanding.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1322831679732424704?s=21

Can’t understand not wanting to give them Talau especially now Josh is willing to stay at Melbourne for another season

Unless Talau becomes an Australian level player it will not be worth it. Maybe they think that highly of him at the club

Hey Josh
Don’t be sucker mate .... it’s a game game of bluff poker.
We don’t need to give them anything that we want/need to keep.

Melbourne will be quite happy to keep him another season, they get a top quality winger on the cheap it’s much better for them. They can hold out for a swap all season long if need be

Come 2022 the entire nrl will chase him and we will have no chance.

Then that's the way it plays out.

Then we miss out on yet another big signing due to our club being dumb. Not really on board with that one

Yeah we disagree on that. I don't believe in giving up a player to sign another.

Why not if it is going to strengthen the team

Because you don't get full value out of the player you are signing, we will be stronger on that wing but weaker somewhere else. So for full freight of what JAC is worth we get all his skill but we minus what Nofa brings to the team. We don't have a ready made replacement that brings what Nofa brings so we either find someone that matches him or we lose out in that position. Now overall we end up with a net gain, but is the net gain we achieve worth what we are paying JAC at full freight.

We have offered him what he is worth with a chance to earn more. He either comes or he doesn't.

If it's one or the other I'd take JAC over Noff. Swapping Talau or Momo wouldn't take a second to think about

I'd take JAC over Nofa too, but that is not what I was saying. We are willing to pay full freight on JAC, by giving up a player we don't get full worth unless we can find another player to replace what Nofa does for the team..

I see what your saying, but the value of having JAC will still be better than have Noff.
I wouldn't give him up straight away ,
but if it came down to being the clincher then seeyaa Noff.

No the clincher is "See ya JAC" because Nofo doesn't want to go and Madge doesn't want him to go.

That doesn't take a second either.

Yes, just rinse and repeat 2020. It's time for change and if Nofoaluma went a good replacement could be found from within.

Why would Noffo go?

Don't say because of Bellamy, or a premiership winning team, loyal to the club so he will do what they ask etc. etc.

You still have to go to stinking Melbourne and LEAVE your family.

Exactly the same thing you are trying to overcome with JAC - reunite WITH his family.

The scenario is a joke.

You want JAC .... Buy him!!!

Don't expect others to ruin their life to satisfy a few fan objectives.

If he is being this difficult - forget him, he is just a fast winger who will not win us a premiership, might help in some small way but he is NOT a must have spine player.

He's just a fast winger whom is consistently good over many years. He's a Kangaroo, an SOO rep and has a premiershp ring. We have failed to produce anyone with his ability to turn half chances into tries from anywhere on the field. He also saves tries as he did in SOO with his pace when the Souths duo fell apart. Our younger players need his guidance to watch how he prepares and trains. In a club sometimes lacking positive news, he provides it.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Mansour to the Dogs. Possibly Naden too.

Good.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

On the radio a few minutes ago, headline was JAC could stay at the Storm. But the actual story is Storm want a replacement.

JAC is crucial to our rebuild. Get the deal done.

It'd be great to get him but making it so one dimensional isn't helpful. He'd be good but he isn't the key to our rebuild. The key is developing a quality squad. JAC would help us do that but if we miss out there will be other players.

We need quality. JAC is quality and has a soft spot for WTs. The cast offs and rejects mentioned from other clubs don't cut it.

I'm not doubting that JAC is a quality player and we want to get him. I'm just stating that you don't control that outcome. You put a good offer in, you don't get caught up in the media and fan dribble and you let JAC make the decision.

At the same time you are continually on the lookout for players that will fit our system.

If cast offs and rejects fit our system and the players we want here and you can get them a little cheaper go for it. I reckon Douiehi is a classic example of a guy we can build around and he is a reject.

The players we need rarely find their way to the reject bin. Why do some coaches believe they can magically turn DWZ into a an incisive, consistent strike centre or winger? When he shows you whom he is, believe him! Is it arrogance that I know better than anyone else? I am concerned we purchased Leilua J whom is a dud. I don't want that repeated otherwise my faith in the new management would be sorely tried.

BJ is a good example to me of a good contract for us. The guy can play. When he is one he is really good. He just has a lot of downsides to his game as well. We can get rid of him though after this season so he has to perform. That is why it's a good contract. The downside isn't that bad.

I get what you are stating though. We need quality players to improve and that means top end players. It's hard to purchase those guys though. It's not often they come on the market. I don't think we can rely on signing those guys.

Don't worry Joey will be on in 2021 - The solution was no Benji and all his baggage.

It's his defence. No 1 issue in the centres. Talau for me at right centre.

 

[CarltonDry]

On the radio a few minutes ago, headline was JAC could stay at the Storm. But the actual story is Storm want a replacement.

JAC is crucial to our rebuild. Get the deal done.

It'd be great to get him but making it so one dimensional isn't helpful. He'd be good but he isn't the key to our rebuild. The key is developing a quality squad. JAC would help us do that but if we miss out there will be other players.

We need quality. JAC is quality and has a soft spot for WTs. The cast offs and rejects mentioned from other clubs don't cut it.

I'm not doubting that JAC is a quality player and we want to get him. I'm just stating that you don't control that outcome. You put a good offer in, you don't get caught up in the media and fan dribble and you let JAC make the decision.

At the same time you are continually on the lookout for players that will fit our system.

If cast offs and rejects fit our system and the players we want here and you can get them a little cheaper go for it. I reckon Douiehi is a classic example of a guy we can build around and he is a reject.

The players we need rarely find their way to the reject bin. Why do some coaches believe they can magically turn DWZ into a an incisive, consistent strike centre or winger? When he shows you whom he is, believe him! Is it arrogance that I know better than anyone else? I am concerned we purchased Leilua J whom is a dud. I don't want that repeated otherwise my faith in the new management would be sorely tried.

BJ is a good example to me of a good contract for us. The guy can play. When he is one he is really good. He just has a lot of downsides to his game as well. We can get rid of him though after this season so he has to perform. That is why it's a good contract. The downside isn't that bad.

I get what you are stating though. We need quality players to improve and that means top end players. It's hard to purchase those guys though. It's not often they come on the market. I don't think we can rely on signing those guys.

Don't worry Joey will be on in 2021 - The solution was no Benji and all his baggage.

It's his defence. No 1 issue in the centres. Talau for me at right centre.

Talau to lock
McIntyre getting strong interest from north of the border