JAC

[Goanna57]

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1322831679732424704?s=21

Can’t understand not wanting to give them Talau especially now Josh is willing to stay at Melbourne for another season

Unless Talau becomes an Australian level player it will not be worth it. Maybe they think that highly of him at the club

Hey Josh
Don’t be sucker mate .... it’s a game game of bluff poker.
We don’t need to give them anything that we want/need to keep.

Melbourne will be quite happy to keep him another season, they get a top quality winger on the cheap it’s much better for them. They can hold out for a swap all season long if need be

Come 2022 the entire nrl will chase him and we will have no chance.

Then that's the way it plays out.

Then we miss out on yet another big signing due to our club being dumb. Not really on board with that one

Yeah we disagree on that. I don't believe in giving up a player to sign another.

Why not if it is going to strengthen the team

Because you don't get full value out of the player you are signing, we will be stronger on that wing but weaker somewhere else. So for full freight of what JAC is worth we get all his skill but we minus what Nofa brings to the team. We don't have a ready made replacement that brings what Nofa brings so we either find someone that matches him or we lose out in that position. Now overall we end up with a net gain, but is the net gain we achieve worth what we are paying JAC at full freight.

We have offered him what he is worth with a chance to earn more. He either comes or he doesn't.

We have offered him what we think he is worth to us .
Not necessarily what his worth is,and no I whould not trade nofo but I whould tommy

 

[weststigerman]

So many people in the know. I've heard about 10 different insider stories about him now.

It would be great to get him partially because missing out will create more media pressure about not joining us due to Madge.

However, as others have said, he's a very fast winger at this point and how many sides are paying 600k for their wingers. What's Tupou and Morris on at the Roosters? JAC himself has been on 450k odd for the past few years, if he was on 600k maybe Melbourne don't win the comp.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

On the radio a few minutes ago, headline was JAC could stay at the Storm. But the actual story is Storm want a replacement.

JAC is crucial to our rebuild. Get the deal done.

It'd be great to get him but making it so one dimensional isn't helpful. He'd be good but he isn't the key to our rebuild. The key is developing a quality squad. JAC would help us do that but if we miss out there will be other players.

We need quality. JAC is quality and has a soft spot for WTs. The cast offs and rejects mentioned from other clubs don't cut it.

I'm not doubting that JAC is a quality player and we want to get him. I'm just stating that you don't control that outcome. You put a good offer in, you don't get caught up in the media and fan dribble and you let JAC make the decision.

At the same time you are continually on the lookout for players that will fit our system.

If cast offs and rejects fit our system and the players we want here and you can get them a little cheaper go for it. I reckon Douiehi is a classic example of a guy we can build around and he is a reject.

The players we need rarely find their way to the reject bin. Why do some coaches believe they can magically turn DWZ into a an incisive, consistent strike centre or winger? When he shows you whom he is, believe him! Is it arrogance that I know better than anyone else? I am concerned we purchased Leilua J whom is a dud. I don't want that repeated otherwise my faith in the new management would be sorely tried.

BJ is a good example to me of a good contract for us. The guy can play. When he is one he is really good. He just has a lot of downsides to his game as well. We can get rid of him though after this season so he has to perform. That is why it's a good contract. The downside isn't that bad.

I get what you are stating though. We need quality players to improve and that means top end players. It's hard to purchase those guys though. It's not often they come on the market. I don't think we can rely on signing those guys.

Don't worry Joey will be on in 2021 - The solution was no Benji and all his baggage.

It's his defence. No 1 issue in the centres. Talau for me at right centre.

It was his defence - covering up for Marshall. Next year he won't have to.

AND he may see the ball as well. Eureka!!!!!

He's lazy. The Bulldogs' game where he failed to lock up the ball on an opponent half his size and the look of relief on his face when he didn't have do more work as the ball switched was palpable. The Storm or Roosters' centres would have busted themselves to lock up the ball. That is the difference and at 28 won't change.

 

[cqtiger]

Personally, I don’t give a rats about trading a player to Storm, they can go jump.

If JAC is signed to them until end of 2021 fine, that’s a legal deal, but if JAC really wants back to Sydney for fair dinkum family reasons and Storm will only release for someone in exchange then stuff them - that’s the Storm being really crappy.

Oh and if JAC says he will now stay at Storm next year then he has been playing everyone and has never been sincere.

Just imagine he goes to another club and plays on the wing? His credibility will be shot and we should all thank our lucky stars we aren’t paying ridiculous many for a winger.

We are offering a good deal for him to play fullback and earn fullback money - IF he plays well there.

So many people getting upset about if JAC doesn’t sign for us. I’m not losing any sleep over it.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1322831679732424704?s=21

Can’t understand not wanting to give them Talau especially now Josh is willing to stay at Melbourne for another season

Unless Talau becomes an Australian level player it will not be worth it. Maybe they think that highly of him at the club

Hey Josh
Don’t be sucker mate .... it’s a game game of bluff poker.
We don’t need to give them anything that we want/need to keep.

Melbourne will be quite happy to keep him another season, they get a top quality winger on the cheap it’s much better for them. They can hold out for a swap all season long if need be

Come 2022 the entire nrl will chase him and we will have no chance.

Then that's the way it plays out.

Then we miss out on yet another big signing due to our club being dumb. Not really on board with that one

Yeah we disagree on that. I don't believe in giving up a player to sign another.

Why not if it is going to strengthen the team

Because you don't get full value out of the player you are signing, we will be stronger on that wing but weaker somewhere else. So for full freight of what JAC is worth we get all his skill but we minus what Nofa brings to the team. We don't have a ready made replacement that brings what Nofa brings so we either find someone that matches him or we lose out in that position. Now overall we end up with a net gain, but is the net gain we achieve worth what we are paying JAC at full freight.

We have offered him what he is worth with a chance to earn more. He either comes or he doesn't.

If it's one or the other I'd take JAC over Noff. Swapping Talau or Momo wouldn't take a second to think about

I'd take JAC over Nofa too, but that is not what I was saying. We are willing to pay full freight on JAC, by giving up a player we don't get full worth unless we can find another player to replace what Nofa does for the team..

I see what your saying, but the value of having JAC will still be better than have Noff.
I wouldn't give him up straight away ,
but if it came down to being the clincher then seeyaa Noff.

No the clincher is "See ya JAC" because Nofo doesn't want to go and Madge doesn't want him to go.

That doesn't take a second either.

Yes, just rinse and repeat 2020. It's time for change and if Nofoaluma went a good replacement could be found from within.

Why would Noffo go?

Don't say because of Bellamy, or a premiership winning team, loyal to the club so he will do what they ask etc. etc.

You still have to go to stinking Melbourne and LEAVE your family.

Exactly the same thing you are trying to overcome with JAC - reunite WITH his family.

The scenario is a joke.

You want JAC .... Buy him!!!

Don't expect others to ruin their life to satisfy a few fan objectives.

If he is being this difficult - forget him, he is just a fast winger who will not win us a premiership, might help in some small way but he is NOT a must have spine player.

Well said .. the problem is it seems Melbourne are having trouble signing players .. if there was no problem there would be no need for this strange swap deal ! Cannot seem to fill 2 wing spots.

If your from Sydney you want to play for the bunnies or easts. Because of what they can provide you off field . It used to include the sharks , but they were very lucky to have conveniently cheated the cap either side of their premiership . So they won’t be doing that stuff any more .

 

[rustycage]

On the radio a few minutes ago, headline was JAC could stay at the Storm. But the actual story is Storm want a replacement.

JAC is crucial to our rebuild. Get the deal done.

It'd be great to get him but making it so one dimensional isn't helpful. He'd be good but he isn't the key to our rebuild. The key is developing a quality squad. JAC would help us do that but if we miss out there will be other players.

We need quality. JAC is quality and has a soft spot for WTs. The cast offs and rejects mentioned from other clubs don't cut it.

I'm not doubting that JAC is a quality player and we want to get him. I'm just stating that you don't control that outcome. You put a good offer in, you don't get caught up in the media and fan dribble and you let JAC make the decision.

At the same time you are continually on the lookout for players that will fit our system.

If cast offs and rejects fit our system and the players we want here and you can get them a little cheaper go for it. I reckon Douiehi is a classic example of a guy we can build around and he is a reject.

The players we need rarely find their way to the reject bin. Why do some coaches believe they can magically turn DWZ into a an incisive, consistent strike centre or winger? When he shows you whom he is, believe him! Is it arrogance that I know better than anyone else? I am concerned we purchased Leilua J whom is a dud. I don't want that repeated otherwise my faith in the new management would be sorely tried.

Rarely do people use "whom" correctly. Just ditch it.

 

[rustycage]

I smell a rat in Redfern,Roberts not required,Allen shopped around under the guise of upgrading LM....
Lets see,I dont think they can get the cap right to squeeze in JAC for 2021,but if they get rid of some player(s)and get the cap right for 2022 then they get JAC,thats why the "I can stay in Melb for one more year"..
I dont think the family situation has changed,I think he wants to be with the brotherhood...his manager has used us as a vehicle hence the HOA....the deal with us is just a foil,we havent got anyone to swap with,Melb know it and Jacs manager knows it..

Nailed it

 

[weststigers]

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1322831679732424704?s=21

"Just when we thought Josh Addo-Carr was locked in to join
@WestsTigers, the race has been thrown wide open."

-From the same mob that had him signing with the Bulldogs all of last week.

It also says sources close to Addo-Carr flatly denied the rumour. I think this one is a case of what will be, will be.

Melbourne are within their rights to ask for a like for like replacement, but honestly, if you are going to release on compassionate grounds, it should be unconditional.

 

[Guest]

Mansour to Melbourne might solve some problems for us lol

It might. He's 30 years old and the writing is on the wall for him at Penrith. Now you would think he might have an opportunity at either the Bulldogs or Storm. He's got a great work ethic and would go alright in Melbourne.

 

[Aubanon]

Dont actually know how legally this is possible, but advised that the HOA gives us a first right of refusal for any other Sydney based deal.

 

[Telltails]

Dont actually know how legally this is possible, but advised that the HOA gives us a first right of refusal for any other Sydney based deal.

Interesting - we do have access to legal advice.

 

[Spartan117]

If JAC wanted to come to the Tigers He would simply have signed for 2022 and allowed 21 to sort itself out.

A year of encouraging /gritty wins in 2021 is the only way to become a credible club

 

[CarltonDry]

JAC won’t be at the club. Wayne grub Bennett has change his mind and will have cap space for him. JAC did agree to terms with tigers but now backfliped.

This is the reason the game is losing fans if true... The rich just get richer and the NRL main body don't give a rats..
If you look through that Souths squad there is about 12+ rep players and it blows my mind how they fit under the cap without some sort of cheating... I don't want to hear the same " we need to be better spill" as I understand we do but the game itself needs to take some responsibility to develop an even comp. South in the last few years have retired Ingles (Playing again next year) , Burgess (Had them injuries before they resigned him on big money and not to mention the so called abuse and drugs that come in the media lately and has disappeared under the carpet), Apparently James Roberts is just going to leave with no pay as its the Right thing to do for the club and that frees up more money... Yeh right, a Player is going to give up 550k for the love of it...
I will say in JAC defence though I cannot blame him if he picks them over us as he is guaranteed top 8 and smaller wage but benefits on the side for years to come.
Anyway my rant is over but had to get it off my chest.. As they say... Onwards and upwards now

I wouldn't be surprised if Souths are allowed to sign Sam Burgess to a development contract ?

 

[SeanT]

'Josh Addo-Carr seems reluctant to sign at the Wests Tigers for next year and now appears more chance of remaining with premiers Melbourne.

That’s even with the Tigers getting him to sign a heads of agreement for 2021.

The Tigers are still the basket case of the NRL open market. They’re struggling to sign a player.'

Nore quality writing from Hooper.. 🙄😂

 

[Madge]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/11/02/addo-carr-addresses-contract-speculation/

If it intrigues any of you

 

[JD Tiger]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/11/02/addo-carr-addresses-contract-speculation/

If it intrigues any of you

When asked has he 'signed a Heads of Agreement to go to the Tigers', JAC said no.

But that also he hadn't "really" spoken to his manager since Week 1 of the finals.

I'm still thinking Souths. But it would be nice to get him.

 

[TigerWest]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/11/02/addo-carr-addresses-contract-speculation/

If it intrigues any of you

Doesn't really answer anything, does it? Just have to wait it out.

 

[Madge]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/11/02/addo-carr-addresses-contract-speculation/

If it intrigues any of you

Doesn't really answer anything, does it? Just have to wait it out.

No but at least it will keep the conversation going lol

 

[cochise]

JAC won’t be at the club. Wayne grub Bennett has change his mind and will have cap space for him. JAC did agree to terms with tigers but now backfliped.

Hey you caught up.

 

[avocadoontoast]

JAC won’t be at the club. Wayne grub Bennett has change his mind and will have cap space for him. JAC did agree to terms with tigers but now backfliped.

Hey you caught up.

I wonder what they're going to do now. There's not a heap of available talent out there at the moment but geez I don't want us to be spoon contenders.