JAC

[earl]

Paul Crawley article said WT expected meeting with Mario after origin and MArio (JAC agent) was a no show.

As a result Lee said unequivocally said tigers have pulled out of the hunt for JAC.

https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1334399409279303680?s=21

For once - I hope he is right.

We just got rid of a sook to Manly - we don't need a dope - Hit the road JAC.

oh how lovely we miss JAC and land Nofo
yessss

Atm this is the best possible outcome for us. You can't realistically be stating that we continue to engage with players and their managers when we are getting the run around.

ok if its not JAC then put the money towards Staggs or Crighton

I agree. We should keep swinging for the fences. If we get clear chances to improve our team with quality players we should give it a shot. We should have the cap space available to get some good players.

If we keep adding a player or two per year and have some juniors developing we can improve.

 

[AdelaideTiger]

I don’t know why Daniel Tupou isn’t the most sought after winger in the game? Contracted for 21 with chooks on very low money.

Perennially under rated, has continued to improve year on year. Debuted with Roosters and will retire there. No reason for him to leave and no reason for the chooks to make him.

Negotiations wouldn't go far.

 

[earl]

I don’t know why Daniel Tupou isn’t the most sought after winger in the game? Contracted for 21 with chooks on very low money.

He is a great player. Awesome hit-ups and he score a try.

 

[happy_tiger]

I don’t know why Daniel Tupou isn’t the most sought after winger in the game? Contracted for 21 with chooks on very low money.

He is a great player. Awesome hit-ups and he score a try.

He is a good player ...still has rocks and diamonds moments

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Just a hunch, but I reckon Lee coming out saying publicly that we are out of the chase for JAC, means Nofo has agreed to terms. I reckon we would be keeping our options open if we were a chance of losing Nofo.

Unfortunately signing Nofoaluma is Plan. C when what is needed is Plan A. Our pace in the backs is reliant upon Roberts staying on field, a rookie in Kepaoa and also Brooks. Also maybe Laurie who looks more like a 6 if he can obtain a release. At some stage our club needs to invest heavily in pace in the ouside backs.

Just so I understand correctly. You would be happy to let Nofa go if he wants a cent more than his current contract which let’s assume is 450k. You also mentioned you a proud of the clubs stance on having a ceiling on player worth.

Are you also suggesting we should pay JAC the 750-800k it would take to land him here?

If you are comparing the two, that is a nonsense. You and I both know one is an elite player while the other is a club player. You need to pay to attract the best. In addition, Nofoaluma has been on overs on his last contract and performed only this year in attack. His defence was the usual standard. If the reported $450pa is correct he should have taken at least $50kpa cut. In summary, I'd have no issue moving Nofoaluma on, with his right side partner BJ following him out the door.

I'm not comparing playing abilities, but you knew that already.

I repeat the question, are you also suggesting we should pay JAC the 750-800k it would take to land him here?

Go and read my reply again. And by the way, wasn't WT's offer at or around $800 if he played f/b? Seems like you are the one out of step.

No, the offer was reported as around 650k for JAC which was before we signed another promising fullback.

So you're saying you'd pay 800k JAC, but not more than 450k for Nofa. Glad you're not in charge.

I would pay max for $400k but realistically $350k for Nofoaluma. JAC may need some extra$

You'd likely end up with neither. JAC wants to go to Souths, Nofa wants to get equivalent to the market rate.

I'd rather see a rookie winger make defensive mistakes and learn rather than an experienced winger repeat the same old mistakes.

 

[voice_of_reason]

Let them have Nofo
JAC will attract quality players, Nofo won't.

Hmm, I'm fairly certain it's been said that Nofo helped convince LL Cool (and by extension Joey) over.

 

[balmain boy]

I don’t know why Daniel Tupou isn’t the most sought after winger in the game? Contracted for 21 with chooks on very low money.

Tupou is on 500k...
?

 

[jadtiger]

I don’t know why Daniel Tupou isn’t the most sought after winger in the game? Contracted for 21 with chooks on very low money.

Tupou is on 500k...
?

Dont forget his golf winnings

 

[Hangonaminute]

Just a hunch, but I reckon Lee coming out saying publicly that we are out of the chase for JAC, means Nofo has agreed to terms. I reckon we would be keeping our options open if we were a chance of losing Nofo.

Unfortunately signing Nofoaluma is Plan. C when what is needed is Plan A. Our pace in the backs is reliant upon Roberts staying on field, a rookie in Kepaoa and also Brooks. Also maybe Laurie who looks more like a 6 if he can obtain a release. At some stage our club needs to invest heavily in pace in the ouside backs.

Just so I understand correctly. You would be happy to let Nofa go if he wants a cent more than his current contract which let’s assume is 450k. You also mentioned you a proud of the clubs stance on having a ceiling on player worth.

Are you also suggesting we should pay JAC the 750-800k it would take to land him here?

If you are comparing the two, that is a nonsense. You and I both know one is an elite player while the other is a club player. You need to pay to attract the best. In addition, Nofoaluma has been on overs on his last contract and performed only this year in attack. His defence was the usual standard. If the reported $450pa is correct he should have taken at least $50kpa cut. In summary, I'd have no issue moving Nofoaluma on, with his right side partner BJ following him out the door.

I'm not comparing playing abilities, but you knew that already.

I repeat the question, are you also suggesting we should pay JAC the 750-800k it would take to land him here?

Yes, if we move Nofo on, we would have no problems.
IMO elite players make other players look at us instead of listening to the noise of others.
We only need one or two and we have a very capable team to take on all comers.

I get the thinking behind it, similar to what Titans did with Fifita. However, I don't think an elite winger is going to attract other players.

Fifita, Haas, Keary, Munster, Taumalolo, Papali are those type of players IMO.

An elite fullback will, not saying he'll turn into one but he's got more chance than Nofo turning into an elite winger

 

[Hangonaminute]

Let them have Nofo
JAC will attract quality players, Nofo won't.

Hmm, I'm fairly certain it's been said that Nofo helped convince LL Cool (and by extension Joey) over.

I said quality ?

 

[weststigerman]

Just a hunch, but I reckon Lee coming out saying publicly that we are out of the chase for JAC, means Nofo has agreed to terms. I reckon we would be keeping our options open if we were a chance of losing Nofo.

Unfortunately signing Nofoaluma is Plan. C when what is needed is Plan A. Our pace in the backs is reliant upon Roberts staying on field, a rookie in Kepaoa and also Brooks. Also maybe Laurie who looks more like a 6 if he can obtain a release. At some stage our club needs to invest heavily in pace in the ouside backs.

Just so I understand correctly. You would be happy to let Nofa go if he wants a cent more than his current contract which let’s assume is 450k. You also mentioned you a proud of the clubs stance on having a ceiling on player worth.

Are you also suggesting we should pay JAC the 750-800k it would take to land him here?

If you are comparing the two, that is a nonsense. You and I both know one is an elite player while the other is a club player. You need to pay to attract the best. In addition, Nofoaluma has been on overs on his last contract and performed only this year in attack. His defence was the usual standard. If the reported $450pa is correct he should have taken at least $50kpa cut. In summary, I'd have no issue moving Nofoaluma on, with his right side partner BJ following him out the door.

I'm not comparing playing abilities, but you knew that already.

I repeat the question, are you also suggesting we should pay JAC the 750-800k it would take to land him here?

Yes, if we move Nofo on, we would have no problems.
IMO elite players make other players look at us instead of listening to the noise of others.
We only need one or two and we have a very capable team to take on all comers.

I get the thinking behind it, similar to what Titans did with Fifita. However, I don't think an elite winger is going to attract other players.

Fifita, Haas, Keary, Munster, Taumalolo, Papali are those type of players IMO.

An elite fullback will, not saying he'll turn into one but he's got more chance than Nofo turning into an elite winger

No argument there, but by staying with Melb he's made it clear he's not that interested in fullback, and by 2022 I think it will be too late for him to learn the position.

If you're talking about Tedesco, then yeah I'd agree.

 

[Russell]

Winger has become a crucial position.
Nowadays a strong winger makes a team.
Hit ups, line breaks, speed, spectacular finishes- wingers are bludgers no more.

IMO outside of the spine, it is the most important position in today’s game.

And JAC is hands down the best winger I have seen in many years.

In Origin I couldn’t believe that he didn’t get more ball - he was incredibly penetrating, always dangerous.

Anyone suggesting that he isn’t worth top dollar please reconsider. JAC absolutely is top top drawer.
Throw the chequebook at him.

No - he blew it.

We'll keep the check book open for those who want to come here and won't screw us around.

 

[Geo]

Winger has become a crucial position.
Nowadays a strong winger makes a team.
Hit ups, line breaks, speed, spectacular finishes- wingers are bludgers no more.

IMO outside of the spine, it is the most important position in today’s game.

And JAC is hands down the best winger I have seen in many years.

In Origin I couldn’t believe that he didn’t get more ball - he was incredibly penetrating, always dangerous.

Anyone suggesting that he isn’t worth top dollar please reconsider. JAC absolutely is top top drawer.
Throw the chequebook at him.

They did throw the cheque book..

 

[jirskyr]

I don’t know why Daniel Tupou isn’t the most sought after winger in the game? Contracted for 21 with chooks on very low money.

Chooks have dirt on him.

 

[twentyforty]

I don’t know why Daniel Tupou isn’t the most sought after winger in the game? Contracted for 21 with chooks on very low money.

Chooks have dirt on him.

Haha he’s the quietest guy in the nrl. Apparently chooks originally signed him for $40k.

 

[innsaneink]

So we are fine that managers don't wanna talk to us but they'll talk to other clubs

Something wrong here

 

[Guest]

So we are fine that managers don't wanna talk to us but they'll talk to other clubs

Something wrong here

Maybe Ink. A few scenarios that could be at play - the manager may just be trying to milk the most cash he can now and is fishing. I think it premature and silly if JAC has simply disregarded the WT all of a sudden, especially given some of the club announcements this week such as partnerships with indigenous community groups, Tahu coming on board etc...we're building nicely in terms of strategic planning and community partnerships.

 

[Hangonaminute]

I don’t know why Daniel Tupou isn’t the most sought after winger in the game? Contracted for 21 with chooks on very low money.

Chooks have dirt on him.


Haha he’s the quietest guy in the nrl. Apparently chooks originally signed him for $40k.

He's easily worth a million in prizes

 

[BAGNF05]

So we are fine that managers don't wanna talk to us but they'll talk to other clubs

Something wrong here

I’ve been happy with Lee sticking up for the club in the media lately despite a few gaffs, next I think we need to do some work on our relationship with player managers. Feels like they just see us as a vehicle to drive up offers elsewhere.

 

[twentyforty]

So we are fine that managers don't wanna talk to us but they'll talk to other clubs

Something wrong here

I’ve been happy with Lee sticking up for the club in the media lately despite a few gaffs, next I think we need to do some work on our relationship with player managers. Feels like they just see us as a vehicle to drive up offers elsewhere.

They come to WT first for what they think is a favourable valuation. I think if we really want them then we should tell them to come see us last. If we aren’t interested also come see us last.