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@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1257999) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1257989) said:
i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

Hey Walter, he was scoring those tries in a weak WTs' side before moving to the Storm. He is a very good player which is reflected in SOO and Kangaroo selection.

I must of watched different games when he was with us Guys got ability but I don’t think he’s as good people make him out to be cause he’s been picked in soo so what look at brenko lee playing soo tonight he is rubbish
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258060) said:
wingers are probably more important these days than centres
in the past you had
Reg Gasnier
Mal Meninga
Renouf

Wingers now take the dirty hit ups and start your sets and score those miraculous tries
Centres these days can just be a big body/ second rower like Crichton etc doesn't have to be a speed merchant

These so called 'dirt hitups' are a blight on rugby league. Wingers are being de-skilled. Give me a winger any day with the pace to be put into the clear and sprint 60 or. 70 metres to score. If you don't have genuine pace you have no business being on the wing.
 
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1258069) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1257999) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1257989) said:
i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

Hey Walter, he was scoring those tries in a weak WTs' side before moving to the Storm. He is a very good player which is reflected in SOO and Kangaroo selection.

I must of watched different games when he was with us Guys got ability but I don’t think he’s as good people make him out to be cause he’s been picked in soo so what look at brenko lee playing soo tonight he is rubbish

I watch footy with two mates, both reasonable footballers years ago. Both support the Illawarra Dragons. We three are as one on JAC in that we consider him to be an outstanding footballer.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1258072) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1258069) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1257999) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1257989) said:
i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

Hey Walter, he was scoring those tries in a weak WTs' side before moving to the Storm. He is a very good player which is reflected in SOO and Kangaroo selection.

I must of watched different games when he was with us Guys got ability but I don’t think he’s as good people make him out to be cause he’s been picked in soo so what look at brenko lee playing soo tonight he is rubbish

I watch footy with two mates, both reasonable footballers years ago. Both support the Illawarra Dragons. We three are as one on JAC in that we consider him to be an outstanding footballer.

No one is saying he is not a good fast winger Paws.
 
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258066) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1258062) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258035) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1258017) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258009) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258006) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257998) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1257996) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257988) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1257986) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257981) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1257937) said:
We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

Defensively props do more work for sure. Some wingers run the ball more than props Nofa runs way more than any of our forwards. Daniel Tupou has one run every set for roosters.

Dirty hitups are mostly wingers. Off the back of a kick you’ll see 3 runs by outside backs before a forward gets there a lot of the time all depends on field position though if you’re catching it in your own 20 you use wingers if you catch it on halfway you use forwards

And how many teams are there that can say their 'winger' is their best player?
Not just in today's game but ever?

There's not many (if any).

Ken Irvine for North Sydney Bears pretty much carried that team

You beat me to it. Probably the greatest of all wingers, certainly his try scoring record still stands. He played most of his career in a struggle-street Bears team that rarely made the finals.

A great winger. When did he play, 50 odd years ago? So fair to say that a team with a winger as their best player is not that common.

I still hope we get JAC, but I doubt we will, and I won't be too disappointed now if we miss him, just disappointed in him.

Disappointed in him for not getting a release from Melbourne makes sense ??‍♂️

He could sign right now with us for 2022. He chooses not to. That's nothing to do with Storm.

You have said before words to the effect of he would be silly to sign a year and a half ahead. I disagree. There is nothing silly about it, if that's what he wants to do. It's looking more and more like he hasn't signed with us because he doesn't want to sign with us. Again, that's nothing to do with Storm.

He may feel by signing for 2022 he would wedge the Storm and weaken their position to strike a trade deal. I can understand him wanting to be loyal to his current club.
 
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1258076) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1258072) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1258069) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1257999) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1257989) said:
i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

Hey Walter, he was scoring those tries in a weak WTs' side before moving to the Storm. He is a very good player which is reflected in SOO and Kangaroo selection.

I must of watched different games when he was with us Guys got ability but I don’t think he’s as good people make him out to be cause he’s been picked in soo so what look at brenko lee playing soo tonight he is rubbish

I watch footy with two mates, both reasonable footballers years ago. Both support the Illawarra Dragons. We three are as one on JAC in that we consider him to be an outstanding footballer.

No one is saying he is not a good fast winger Paws.

Walter has received a couple of replies on his earlier post.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1258077) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258066) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1258062) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258035) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [JAC](/post/1258017) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258009) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258006) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257998) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1257996) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257988) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1257986) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257981) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1257937) said:
We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

Defensively props do more work for sure. Some wingers run the ball more than props Nofa runs way more than any of our forwards. Daniel Tupou has one run every set for roosters.

Dirty hitups are mostly wingers. Off the back of a kick you’ll see 3 runs by outside backs before a forward gets there a lot of the time all depends on field position though if you’re catching it in your own 20 you use wingers if you catch it on halfway you use forwards

And how many teams are there that can say their 'winger' is their best player?
Not just in today's game but ever?

There's not many (if any).

Ken Irvine for North Sydney Bears pretty much carried that team

You beat me to it. Probably the greatest of all wingers, certainly his try scoring record still stands. He played most of his career in a struggle-street Bears team that rarely made the finals.

A great winger. When did he play, 50 odd years ago? So fair to say that a team with a winger as their best player is not that common.

I still hope we get JAC, but I doubt we will, and I won't be too disappointed now if we miss him, just disappointed in him.

Disappointed in him for not getting a release from Melbourne makes sense ??‍♂️

He could sign right now with us for 2022. He chooses not to. That's nothing to do with Storm.

You have said before words to the effect of he would be silly to sign a year and a half ahead. I disagree. There is nothing silly about it, if that's what he wants to do. It's looking more and more like he hasn't signed with us because he doesn't want to sign with us. Again, that's nothing to do with Storm.

He may feel by signing for 2022 he would wedge the Storm and weaken their position to strike a trade deal. I can understand him wanting to be loyal to his current club.

Good point. They have had over a year though to source a replacement. And a trade deal seems very unlikely to occur.

And if that's his motivation, with our offer sitting in front of him, he is obviously not very interested in our offer.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1258072) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1258069) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1257999) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1257989) said:
i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

Hey Walter, he was scoring those tries in a weak WTs' side before moving to the Storm. He is a very good player which is reflected in SOO and Kangaroo selection.

I must of watched different games when he was with us Guys got ability but I don’t think he’s as good people make him out to be cause he’s been picked in soo so what look at brenko lee playing soo tonight he is rubbish

I watch footy with two mates, both reasonable footballers years ago. Both support the Illawarra Dragons. We three are as one on JAC in that we consider him to be an outstanding footballer.

Not to be argumentative, but what’s your point ? I also played at a reasonable level , and I understand the huge importance of territory , momentum, and possession , especially since the introduction of set restart . Having a back 3 who can get over the advantage line in set restarts , especially if the opposition just marched 70m in thier set , is absolutely crucial . It Gains back the initiative , and , more importantly gives your middles a break , as they have to tackle 120kg monsters 4+ tackles a set . This includes locking him up so he doesn’t he the ball away , to the most athletically gifted generation to ever play, lurking up the middle in support . It’s hard stuff , especially when you also have to remember the defensive strategies implemented , and expected to be carried out , by the coach .
You seem to think “doesn’t see not getting JAC as a big issue “ = “JAC isn’t that good” .
I don’t think people are arguing that. I respect your opinion , and your commitment to it , but hot tip , if he does go to Souths , then all this fullback talk is a irrelevant and the guy himself is happy to play it out on the wing . To me , this proves that he doesn’t want to play fullback as much as he claims , and he just wants the coin .

I don’t think it’s wise to spend the money suggested on a winger .
And I think many here agree with me .
 
@851 said in [JAC](/post/1258040) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1257917) said:
@The_Patriot said in [JAC](/post/1257909) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1257904) said:
@The_Patriot said in [JAC](/post/1257890) said:
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1257883) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257874) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257870) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257869) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

I dont live in that head space where i think good players will leave us.

They only did that when we had muppets like Taylor as coach.

Agree as Madge has only lost the players that he has wanted to lose so this says to me the good ones understand what he is building and want to stay.. I have big wraps on Madge and also stick up for him in posts.
I still think Tommy is yet to prove himself (he may well turn into a rep player) but the reward to letting him go would be a actually Rep player in his prime and not a player with potential.

We lost Matterson, I am pretty sure we didn’t want to lose him, he was our best player last year

I am sure Madge is glad he is gone for a few reason - He clearly was not good for morale, We got him to a position where he was 18th man for NSW and he wanted more money so got him manager involved to get more for which we were not prepared to pay and rightly so, and he has clearly gone backwards this year at Eels and that shows when he cannot even make the 30 man squad..
We we got an excellent replacement in LL... Big win for us as he wants to work hard to better himself and his team..
 
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1258083) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1258072) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1258069) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1257999) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1257989) said:
i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

Hey Walter, he was scoring those tries in a weak WTs' side before moving to the Storm. He is a very good player which is reflected in SOO and Kangaroo selection.

I must of watched different games when he was with us Guys got ability but I don’t think he’s as good people make him out to be cause he’s been picked in soo so what look at brenko lee playing soo tonight he is rubbish

I watch footy with two mates, both reasonable footballers years ago. Both support the Illawarra Dragons. We three are as one on JAC in that we consider him to be an outstanding footballer.

Not to be argumentative, but what’s your point ? I also played at a reasonable level , and I understand the huge importance of territory , momentum, and possession , especially since the introduction of set restart . Having a back 3 who can get over the advantage line in set restarts , especially if the opposition just marched 70m in thier set , is absolutely crucial . It Gains back the initiative , and , more importantly gives your middles a break , as they have to tackle 120kg monsters 4+ tackles a set . This includes locking him up so he doesn’t he the ball away , to the most athletically gifted generation to ever play, lurking up the middle in support . It’s hard stuff , especially when you also have to remember the defensive strategies implemented , and expected to be carried out , by the coach .
You seem to think “doesn’t see not getting JAC as a big issue “ = “JAC isn’t that good” .
I don’t think people are arguing that. I respect your opinion , and your commitment to it , but hot tip , if he does go to Souths , then all this fullback talk is a irrelevant and the guy himself is happy to play it out on the wing . To me , this proves that he doesn’t want to play fullback as much as he claims , and he just wants the coin .

I don’t think it’s wise to spend the money suggested on a winger .
And I think many here agree with me .

You can read Walter's posts. Self explanatory really.

We lack match winners and need better quality players. JAC is both.

How do WTs improve without better quality players?

If he wants money, he can join just about every other footballer with that motivation.
 
Read also suggested that Mansour was on the radar of the West Tigers due to ambiguity surrounding Josh Addo-Carr’s return to Leichhardt.

Addo-Carr has already signed an agreement to re-join the Sydney based club for the 2021 season should he be released by the Melbourne. However, there were suggestions earlier in the week that the speedster may stay with the Storm.

Wests Chairman Lee Hagipantelis claimed he had been in contact with Addo-Carr’s management and that the deal was still likely to proceed, irrespective of innuendo.

“We understand that Josh’s intention is subject to a release from Melbourne to return to Sydney,” Hagipantelis said.

“The ball remains fairly and squarely with Melbourne. It seems that every story is somehow brought back to the Wests Tigers in some way, shape or form. The fact is we’re turning things
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1258090) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1258083) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1258072) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1258069) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1257999) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1257989) said:
i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

Hey Walter, he was scoring those tries in a weak WTs' side before moving to the Storm. He is a very good player which is reflected in SOO and Kangaroo selection.

I must of watched different games when he was with us Guys got ability but I don’t think he’s as good people make him out to be cause he’s been picked in soo so what look at brenko lee playing soo tonight he is rubbish

I watch footy with two mates, both reasonable footballers years ago. Both support the Illawarra Dragons. We three are as one on JAC in that we consider him to be an outstanding footballer.

Not to be argumentative, but what’s your point ? I also played at a reasonable level , and I understand the huge importance of territory , momentum, and possession , especially since the introduction of set restart . Having a back 3 who can get over the advantage line in set restarts , especially if the opposition just marched 70m in thier set , is absolutely crucial . It Gains back the initiative , and , more importantly gives your middles a break , as they have to tackle 120kg monsters 4+ tackles a set . This includes locking him up so he doesn’t he the ball away , to the most athletically gifted generation to ever play, lurking up the middle in support . It’s hard stuff , especially when you also have to remember the defensive strategies implemented , and expected to be carried out , by the coach .
You seem to think “doesn’t see not getting JAC as a big issue “ = “JAC isn’t that good” .
I don’t think people are arguing that. I respect your opinion , and your commitment to it , but hot tip , if he does go to Souths , then all this fullback talk is a irrelevant and the guy himself is happy to play it out on the wing . To me , this proves that he doesn’t want to play fullback as much as he claims , and he just wants the coin .

I don’t think it’s wise to spend the money suggested on a winger .
And I think many here agree with me .

You can read Walter's posts. Self explanatory really.

We lack match winners and need better quality players. JAC is both.

How do WTs improve without better quality players?

If he wants money, he can join just about every other footballer with that motivation.

I tend to agree with Walter in many respects . Would I love to have him on the wing ? Absolutely ! Has he shown anything to suggest he would be a great fullback ? No not at all. I guess I’m stuck there. If we have to pay extreme overs for him , and he’s not going to play fullback , and say he was getting a storm bump on form , like all ex storm players , so his form drops , so now he’s only marginally better than the other options we have , is it worth it ? Especially if it means we block someone on the juniors who might actually be better than him . I’m not sold. And you are and that’s fine . I hope you’re right, he signs with us and leads us to a premiership .
Maybe I’m just lacking vision .
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258091) said:
Read also suggested that Mansour was on the radar of the West Tigers due to ambiguity surrounding Josh Addo-Carr’s return to Leichhardt.

Addo-Carr has already signed an agreement to re-join the Sydney based club for the 2021 season should he be released by the Melbourne. However, there were suggestions earlier in the week that the speedster may stay with the Storm.

Wests Chairman Lee Hagipantelis claimed he had been in contact with Addo-Carr’s management and that the deal was still likely to proceed, irrespective of innuendo.

“We understand that Josh’s intention is subject to a release from Melbourne to return to Sydney,” Hagipantelis said.

“The ball remains fairly and squarely with Melbourne. It seems that every story is somehow brought back to the Wests Tigers in some way, shape or form. The fact is we’re turning things

where is this from?
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258091) said:
“We understand that Josh’s intention is subject to a release from Melbourne to return to Sydney,” Hagipantelis said.

“The ball remains fairly and squarely with Melbourne. **It seems that every story is somehow brought back to the Wests Tigers in some way, shape or form**. The fact is we’re turning things

Thats a great quote
 
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1258092) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1258090) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1258083) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1258072) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1258069) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1257999) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1257989) said:
i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

Hey Walter, he was scoring those tries in a weak WTs' side before moving to the Storm. He is a very good player which is reflected in SOO and Kangaroo selection.

I must of watched different games when he was with us Guys got ability but I don’t think he’s as good people make him out to be cause he’s been picked in soo so what look at brenko lee playing soo tonight he is rubbish

I watch footy with two mates, both reasonable footballers years ago. Both support the Illawarra Dragons. We three are as one on JAC in that we consider him to be an outstanding footballer.

Not to be argumentative, but what’s your point ? I also played at a reasonable level , and I understand the huge importance of territory , momentum, and possession , especially since the introduction of set restart . Having a back 3 who can get over the advantage line in set restarts , especially if the opposition just marched 70m in thier set , is absolutely crucial . It Gains back the initiative , and , more importantly gives your middles a break , as they have to tackle 120kg monsters 4+ tackles a set . This includes locking him up so he doesn’t he the ball away , to the most athletically gifted generation to ever play, lurking up the middle in support . It’s hard stuff , especially when you also have to remember the defensive strategies implemented , and expected to be carried out , by the coach .
You seem to think “doesn’t see not getting JAC as a big issue “ = “JAC isn’t that good” .
I don’t think people are arguing that. I respect your opinion , and your commitment to it , but hot tip , if he does go to Souths , then all this fullback talk is a irrelevant and the guy himself is happy to play it out on the wing . To me , this proves that he doesn’t want to play fullback as much as he claims , and he just wants the coin .

I don’t think it’s wise to spend the money suggested on a winger .
And I think many here agree with me .

You can read Walter's posts. Self explanatory really.

We lack match winners and need better quality players. JAC is both.

How do WTs improve without better quality players?

If he wants money, he can join just about every other footballer with that motivation.

I tend to agree with Walter in many respects . Would I love to have him on the wing ? Absolutely ! Has he shown anything to suggest he would be a great fullback ? No not at all. I guess I’m stuck there. If we have to pay extreme overs for him , and he’s not going to play fullback , and say he was getting a storm bump on form , like all ex storm players , so his form drops , so now he’s only marginally better than the other options we have , is it worth it ? Especially if it means we block someone on the juniors who might actually be better than him . I’m not sold. And you are and that’s fine . I hope you’re right, he signs with us and leads us to a premiership .
Maybe I’m just lacking vision .

Here's the absolute worst case, he plays wing on a larger contract. Looking at Mbye, Packer, Leilua J and Reynolds, that's a good outcome.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1258093) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258091) said:
Read also suggested that Mansour was on the radar of the West Tigers due to ambiguity surrounding Josh Addo-Carr’s return to Leichhardt.

Addo-Carr has already signed an agreement to re-join the Sydney based club for the 2021 season should he be released by the Melbourne. However, there were suggestions earlier in the week that the speedster may stay with the Storm.

Wests Chairman Lee Hagipantelis claimed he had been in contact with Addo-Carr’s management and that the deal was still likely to proceed, irrespective of innuendo.

“We understand that Josh’s intention is subject to a release from Melbourne to return to Sydney,” Hagipantelis said.

“The ball remains fairly and squarely with Melbourne. It seems that every story is somehow brought back to the Wests Tigers in some way, shape or form. The fact is we’re turning things

where is this from?

At the bottom of this article:

https://www.zerotackle.com/penriths-ploy-to-keep-playmaker-a-panther-nrl-2020-83002/
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258091) said:
Read also suggested that Mansour was on the radar of the West Tigers due to ambiguity surrounding Josh Addo-Carr’s return to Leichhardt.

Addo-Carr has already signed an agreement to re-join the Sydney based club for the 2021 season should he be released by the Melbourne. However, there were suggestions earlier in the week that the speedster may stay with the Storm.

Wests Chairman Lee Hagipantelis claimed he had been in contact with Addo-Carr’s management and that the deal was still likely to proceed, irrespective of innuendo.

“We understand that Josh’s intention is subject to a release from Melbourne to return to Sydney,” Hagipantelis said.

“The ball remains fairly and squarely with Melbourne. It seems that every story is somehow brought back to the Wests Tigers in some way, shape or form. The fact is we’re turning things

I would have hoped the Chairman learned his lesson when he came out opened his mouth about LM. Obviously hasn’t learned.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1258093) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258091) said:
Read also suggested that Mansour was on the radar of the West Tigers due to ambiguity surrounding Josh Addo-Carr’s return to Leichhardt.

Addo-Carr has already signed an agreement to re-join the Sydney based club for the 2021 season should he be released by the Melbourne. However, there were suggestions earlier in the week that the speedster may stay with the Storm.

Wests Chairman Lee Hagipantelis claimed he had been in contact with Addo-Carr’s management and that the deal was still likely to proceed, irrespective of innuendo.

“We understand that Josh’s intention is subject to a release from Melbourne to return to Sydney,” Hagipantelis said.

“The ball remains fairly and squarely with Melbourne. It seems that every story is somehow brought back to the Wests Tigers in some way, shape or form. The fact is we’re turning things

where is this from?

Brent Read The Australian
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1258060) said:
wingers are probably more important these days than centres
in the past you had
Reg Gasnier
Mal Meninga
Renouf

Wingers now take the dirty hit ups and start your sets and score those miraculous tries
Centres these days can just be a big body/ second rower like Crichton etc doesn't have to be a speed merchant

Certainly agree in attack, in defense think centre is the most important decision especially on the out the back plays.

He makes the call for the whole defensive line on the edge. slide, jam etc
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1258072) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1258069) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1257999) said:
@walter said in [JAC](/post/1257989) said:
i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

Hey Walter, he was scoring those tries in a weak WTs' side before moving to the Storm. He is a very good player which is reflected in SOO and Kangaroo selection.

I must of watched different games when he was with us Guys got ability but I don’t think he’s as good people make him out to be cause he’s been picked in soo so what look at brenko lee playing soo tonight he is rubbish

I watch footy with two mates, both reasonable footballers years ago. Both support the Illawarra Dragons. We three are as one on JAC in that we consider him to be an outstanding footballer.

He is quality. He can also sign here whenever he wants. I hope he does but if he doesn't so be it.
 

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