James Tedesco Signs with Roosters [Official]

[TCL]

Loyalty pretty much exists with the fans and no one else these days and that makes it even more important to ensure that your organisation is well run and is desirable -
or your chances of succeeding is very slim. The ridiculous ridiculing of Teddy and Woods for not showing a level of loyalty expected of them is becoming tiresome.
All the players we have signed have done so for money and opportunity - no different to Teddy and Woods. You could easily argue that Packer and Matalino both owed their current clubs - who both wanted to retain them - yet both chased the higher offers in their own best interest. Lucky for us not so for Warriors or Saints.
Gagai knew how important he was to Newcastle didnt stop him from signing with Souths - money opportunity location who knows but what ever the reasons they became a deciding factor over loyalty.
And the only real reason that fans are so filthy is because they are quality players no one really cares too much about how loyal a player wants to be if they are rubbish -
cant get rid of them quick enough.

Fans are the primary stakeholders in rugby league - by far the largest number, biggest "voting", strongest financial input.

So if fans want to ridicule footballers for being "disloyal" (however you define that), then what are you going to do? It's like trying to stop people booing at games, they are just going to boo more if you make a big deal out of it.

If every player was to be loyal then the NRL would be won by the same teams year after year, as there is no change of rosters.

How would you feel if the Tigers were coming last and all the players were 'loyal' and got the wooden spoon every year?

Telltails said it well how players don't have to be loyal. I am sure everybody is fine with our 2018 signings to come to Concord and not be loyal to their previous clubs. Loyalty is one aspect, but whatever benefits both parties (club & player) should take priority.

What fans want is for the players to give back to the club. As jirskyr said, fans are the primary stakeholders in rugby league. So the players should give back to the loyal fans (like myself and many others here) by saying good things about the club and that they are sad to leave. This is why many on this forum are upset and angry on the departure of Moses, Teddy & Woods, as the didn't give back to the club that gave so much to them.

That's a well thought out post mate and you make some great points.

Each fan, player and club official is different and responds differently. Loyalty in commerce is a myth. The only loyalty is to the bank balance.

 

[mtd]

We all know he's a loss

But we all know that the roosters are a club that will spit him out as quick as they snapped him up - should someone better pop up, or should he get injured….

We offered him loyalty, in essence a lifetime contract... he's a st Gregs boy from the wests side.

But just because he's good doesn't mean we can't pick him apart.. stuff him... I'm bitter, so what. I hope he drops the ball 2000 times next year, misses tackles .. and so on... he's human... he already tried to leave once... no time for him...

We offered him loyalty????????? :laughing:
When is the penny going to drop. Loyalty only lasts until a club or player changes his or its mind.
When is this fantasy of loyalty going to get put to bed.
It doesn't exist !!!!

Are you a loyal tigers fan? Or you think you'll switch to the titans soon?

 

[earl]

We all know he's a loss

But we all know that the roosters are a club that will spit him out as quick as they snapped him up - should someone better pop up, or should he get injured….

We offered him loyalty, in essence a lifetime contract... he's a st Gregs boy from the wests side.

But just because he's good doesn't mean we can't pick him apart.. stuff him... I'm bitter, so what. I hope he drops the ball 2000 times next year, misses tackles .. and so on... he's human... he already tried to leave once... no time for him...

We offered him loyalty????????? :laughing:
When is the penny going to drop. Loyalty only lasts until a club or player changes his or its mind.
When is this fantasy of loyalty going to get put to bed.
It doesn't exist !!!!

Are you a loyal tigers fan? Or you think you'll switch to the titans soon?

I don't get these guys that have on idea about loyalty. I honestly with they would support and that is really pushing it another team.

 

[TigerTone]

We all know he's a loss

But we all know that the roosters are a club that will spit him out as quick as they snapped him up - should someone better pop up, or should he get injured….

We offered him loyalty, in essence a lifetime contract... he's a st Gregs boy from the wests side.

But just because he's good doesn't mean we can't pick him apart.. stuff him... I'm bitter, so what. I hope he drops the ball 2000 times next year, misses tackles .. and so on... he's human... he already tried to leave once... no time for him...

We offered him loyalty????????? :laughing:
When is the penny going to drop. Loyalty only lasts until a club or player changes his or its mind.
When is this fantasy of loyalty going to get put to bed.
It doesn't exist !!!!

Are you a loyal tigers fan? Or you think you'll switch to the titans soon?

I don't get these guys that have on idea about loyalty. I honestly with they would support and that is really pushing it another team.

i wish people would read what theyre typing before they hit submit.
It helps for the rest of understand what they are trying to say.

 

[TigerTone]

We all know he's a loss

But we all know that the roosters are a club that will spit him out as quick as they snapped him up - should someone better pop up, or should he get injured….

We offered him loyalty, in essence a lifetime contract... he's a st Gregs boy from the wests side.

But just because he's good doesn't mean we can't pick him apart.. stuff him... I'm bitter, so what. I hope he drops the ball 2000 times next year, misses tackles .. and so on... he's human... he already tried to leave once... no time for him...

We offered him loyalty????????? :laughing:
When is the penny going to drop. Loyalty only lasts until a club or player changes his or its mind.
When is this fantasy of loyalty going to get put to bed.
It doesn't exist !!!!

Are you a loyal tigers fan? Or you think you'll switch to the titans soon?

I don't get these guys that have on idea about loyalty. I honestly with they would support and that is really pushing it another team.

I wish people would read what they are typing before they hit the submit button.
It would help the rest of us understand what they are trying to say.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Are we talking the same 'loyalty' that WT shown to Heighington, Ryan, Aishford etc ? :crazy

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

We all know he's a loss

But we all know that the roosters are a club that will spit him out as quick as they snapped him up - should someone better pop up, or should he get injured….

We offered him loyalty, in essence a lifetime contract... he's a st Gregs boy from the wests side.

But just because he's good doesn't mean we can't pick him apart.. stuff him... I'm bitter, so what. I hope he drops the ball 2000 times next year, misses tackles .. and so on... he's human... he already tried to leave once... no time for him...

We offered him loyalty????????? :laughing:
When is the penny going to drop. Loyalty only lasts until a club or player changes his or its mind.
When is this fantasy of loyalty going to get put to bed.
It doesn't exist !!!!

Are you a loyal tigers fan? Or you think you'll switch to the titans soon?

I think that after a life time of sucking up the rubbish that I have had to endure from Wests and WTs over a 50 year period , I think it could be possible that I'm reasonably Loyal to them. But I'm not blind to the rubbish that is served up here on a regular basis.

But the loyalty that I'm talking about , is loyalty between a player and their club.
Clubs will spit players out whenever they feel like it, and players will grab an opportunity for more money , or better chance of improving their game, or just to escape from a Coach, or family reasons( the latter is one of the easiest to use).

But it's a professional game, and not like the days when there actually was a fair bit of loyalty between clubs and player.
But , in all but a very small number of cases, Loyalty Is gone.

Fans are a different thing altogether, especially if you've had a close relationship and involvement with a club. No matter how crap the club is , you still hang on in the hope that one day they'll get better. And occasionally it does.
My involvement with Wests and Wests players through the years and since I left Sydney , make it impossible to not want them to go well, but both Wests and WTs have , served up some garbage over the years both on and off the field , ( more often then than not).

I also want to see the Titans go well, as a lot of the locals kids that I've had some involvement with are starting to filter through to the club,

 

[cqtiger]

I don't think that there has ever been any blind loyalty in any era of rugby league. The difference between earlier periods and now is the amount of money that can be made.

Johnny Raper is a St George legend and an Immortal but he was a Newtown junior before playing two years with Newtown Bluebags first grade side. I think he actually sat out a year or two before he joined St George because of the then residency rule.

Artie Beetson came to Balmain as a young fella from Qld and represented Australia as a Tiger player but left to join Eastern Suburbs for more money. There are endless stories of the same.

In reality there aren't many players that stay there whole careers at the one club.

Our supporters get twisted over Woods and Tedesco because they both previously knocked back offers from other clubs. Woods was chased hard by Manly previously and has been outspoken about his 'love' of this club and has told of his 2040 (Leichardt) tattoo on his bum.

Similarly, Tedesco and his backflip on Canberra "to stay with his mates" is coming back to haunt him.

It's their own previous comments and actions that have turned fans off. Simple really when you think about it.
That and so many young and immature people on this forum.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

We offered him loyalty????????? :laughing:
When is the penny going to drop. Loyalty only lasts until a club or player changes his or its mind.
When is this fantasy of loyalty going to get put to bed.
It doesn't exist !!!!

Are you a loyal tigers fan? Or you think you'll switch to the titans soon?

I don't get these guys that have on idea about loyalty. I honestly with they would support and that is really pushing it another team.

I wish people would read what they are typing before they hit the submit button.
It would help the rest of us understand what they are trying to say.

Lol! Don't you understand pigeon english Tiger Tone?

 

[TrueTiger]

From a players perspective ….loyalty went out the window when the big money came to the game...you go where you get the most ...its a short term career make the most of it...

From a fans point of view...I love rugby league and the WTs...its what I look forward to come the weekend...I can be as critical as the next bloke or girl,but that doesnt mean I will quit the team and club....thats LOYALTY....

 

[Tigerdave]

is this the same loyalty that booted out Fatty from Manly or the same loyalty that did the same to Wally? seriously, people not only carry on like we're the only club that this happens to, but that it's never happened before.

It all depends on the player, all depends on who is running the club at the time whether loyalty is there or not.

 

[Guest]

Well this thread went off topic quickly.