weststigerman
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All true.
We made the our season harder by releasing Galvin, Klemmer, Miller, Bateman, Da Silva and losing Olam to injury.
Olam was the only player there we replaced.
OFFICIAL Jarome Luai - #295
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We made the our season harder by releasing Galvin, Klemmer, Miller, Bateman, Da Silva and losing Olam to injury.
Olam was the only player there we replaced.
my opinion is based on output, not potential, not talent.
Name the two sides with the changes I noted and see who you think would win?
Jolls
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Historical analysis indicates that the good guys would get up 34 -28. If we played tomorrow though it would depend on what Tigers and Saints team turned up on the day. We may still have enough to get up but I certainly wouldn't be confident.
tig_prmz
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There is so much that Luai is doing wrong with the ball, but his effort plays are better than any other half.
He needs to spend the entire off season kicking. His ball drop is so slow , I get a feeling he's going to get charged down every time. He could stand a meter or two back but don't think that'll fix much. Kicking is like a golf swing, it takes years to develop it and he is not a good striker of the ball.
The angles in attack feel so wrong as well. He still has a good short kicking game but it just feels like he is too close to the ruck or so far off and deep that the defence manages to slide easily.
I don't even have any suggestions, but I have no idea how Benji hasn't been able to fix this yet. If there is anything Benji should be able to coach, it is how to engage defenders. We have posessions, we have good tackle breaking centres, but how have Benji and Luai not figured out how to fix this.
He needs to spend the entire off season kicking. His ball drop is so slow , I get a feeling he's going to get charged down every time. He could stand a meter or two back but don't think that'll fix much. Kicking is like a golf swing, it takes years to develop it and he is not a good striker of the ball.
The angles in attack feel so wrong as well. He still has a good short kicking game but it just feels like he is too close to the ruck or so far off and deep that the defence manages to slide easily.
I don't even have any suggestions, but I have no idea how Benji hasn't been able to fix this yet. If there is anything Benji should be able to coach, it is how to engage defenders. We have posessions, we have good tackle breaking centres, but how have Benji and Luai not figured out how to fix this.
Ssshhhhh Don't you dare imply that Shane Flanagan is a good coach and a better coach then Benji Marshall. You'll be driven out of here with pitchforks.
We dare not mention his name.
Good summation!!
I’m just going to throw something out there hopefully looking at the glass half full.
Before the Bulldogs became the force to be reckoned with this season. last season the major comments on their forum was get rid of Ciraldo(he can’t coach) Gould too
get rid of Burton (a myth )get rid of their hooker get rid of Kikau Sexton Kiraz Averillo Creighton they all can’t play can’t tackle -our forwards are crap (not like the dogs of war) During that rebuild last year their supporters were baying for blood. I’m not saying that the Tigers gonna be like that next year, but we may need a bit of patience to see where Benji and the rebuild can take us. Only time will tell.
Toa better than Suli or Holmes? Are you watching NRL?
I have a felling that part of the problem is that in Benji’s eyes Luai and Korisau can do no wrong, so how do they work on or fix their problems if in their coach’s eyes they are perfect ?
To put it into perspective Luke Brooks would also have 4 premiership wins if he was playing 5/8 for the Panthers for the past 5 years.
Te Maire Martin could do the same, possibly more than what Luai is doing for us and that would save us 900k in our salary cap.
tig_prmz
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If I try to find a positive in this, maybe Benji is going down the path of let's just get into good habits of getting back behind the ball, get a good kick chase going, develop a good system of goal line D etc that he is not fussed about attack..
But, I don't really see us improving in that regard either. Our goal line D was good for 18 minutes then we crumbled. Our line speed was good for 15 minutes, our kick chase went to shits in the second half.
Yeh.. idk wtf is happening here..
Although I hate to admit looking at the way Parramatta are playing and the improvement week in week out, I feel something is terribly wrong at the tigers.
We are going backwards, as much as I want Benji to succeed I just cannot see it at the moment.
A good friend of mine who is one of the leading HR CFO in the world, so I asked him one day what his secret is he answered simply I surround myself with better people than me.
For me Benji does not have this and for him to succeed I feel this needs to be fixed ASAP as Rhino and Hodgo just don't cut it for me.
He certainly needs help as feel he would make a great NRL coach with the right people around him.
We are going backwards, as much as I want Benji to succeed I just cannot see it at the moment.
A good friend of mine who is one of the leading HR CFO in the world, so I asked him one day what his secret is he answered simply I surround myself with better people than me.
For me Benji does not have this and for him to succeed I feel this needs to be fixed ASAP as Rhino and Hodgo just don't cut it for me.
He certainly needs help as feel he would make a great NRL coach with the right people around him.
Another spoon bowl showdown would not surprise.. It’s very possible.
Westoz
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I think Hope being upgraded was the Da Silva replacement 🤣
lol
Westoz
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Ryles had 12 years of being with some of the best coaches in the world
Benji was meant to have 5 years with Sheens, after Sheens got sacked we should’ve kept that 5 year plan going with a different coach (Bennett?)
weststigerman
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Suli and Feagai were the centres on the weekend.
Suli has 1 try all year, I’m not sure you are watching NRL.
TheEnz
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TDS still a bench player getting limited minutes at parra...made 16 tackles with 5 missed against the Broncs. Meanwhile Hope played similar minutes and made 21 tackles with 1 missed against the Panthers. Yes TDS surely has a higher ceiling, however as a bench 9 Hope can do a job for us on a small percentage of the salary that we would have had to pay TDS. The TDS thing will bite us on the arse in a couple of years if Haywood does not progress, however not today or next season.
Luai is one of our best most weeks organises the team and gets us around the park. Drives standards around the club. Is he worth 1.2m not a chance. That’s the price you have to pay now for that level half. It will be standard moving forward. We have cap space so we need to spend wisely.
We have to fix many things for our halves to be successful. We don’t do the simple things well because they are hard.
1. Kick pressure limiting kick metres
2. Defensive technique hit, stick and grapple
3. Line speed limiting metres
4 kick returns at speed
5. Outside backs to churn metres
6. Get Bula back and use two sides of the field.
7. Get Sam Fainu back and KPP next year to have strike on both edges.
8. We need more speed on the wings Makasini and May are my centres but we need to upgrade Skelton. Maybe not if the club knows Toa is busted. His form earlier was outstanding.
9. Lock position the biggest weak link for 2026. Don’t see a player on the roster capable.
10. Douihei is a 14 at best.
11. Get fit enough to do all the above for 80 minutes all year.
12. Some players are not quite able to elevate they have plateaued Bird, Twal, Seyfarth.
We are making progress but not enough for me. Throw in another prop as well however will reserve judgement if Hunt can get going.
We have to fix many things for our halves to be successful. We don’t do the simple things well because they are hard.
1. Kick pressure limiting kick metres
2. Defensive technique hit, stick and grapple
3. Line speed limiting metres
4 kick returns at speed
5. Outside backs to churn metres
6. Get Bula back and use two sides of the field.
7. Get Sam Fainu back and KPP next year to have strike on both edges.
8. We need more speed on the wings Makasini and May are my centres but we need to upgrade Skelton. Maybe not if the club knows Toa is busted. His form earlier was outstanding.
9. Lock position the biggest weak link for 2026. Don’t see a player on the roster capable.
10. Douihei is a 14 at best.
11. Get fit enough to do all the above for 80 minutes all year.
12. Some players are not quite able to elevate they have plateaued Bird, Twal, Seyfarth.
We are making progress but not enough for me. Throw in another prop as well however will reserve judgement if Hunt can get going.
jirskyr
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Parramatta are a threat when Moses plays and pretty much trash when he is not playing. It's not the coach.
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