JEREMY MARSHALL-KING

[Tacky]

And some say our spine looks bad.

Hoppa at 1 has better form than Tui
Foran is better than Reynolds
Mbye and Brooks a dead heat
Liccha without Des's boring game plan is better than Liddle.
So not a great argument

You have got to be kidding

Are you a dogs supporter or an anti-tigers supporter

Tell me where I am wrong, and I have supported wests/weststigers for almost 50 years

Hoppa's a ball-player and Tui's a ball-runner so, they're a little difficult to compare.

Foran was better than Reynolds but, over the past couple of years Foran has been very ordinary.

Mbye is the worst half in the comp. I'd have Brooks between 10-7 of all halfbacks in the comp.

Lichaa is the most unfit hooker I've seen for awhile. Farah is 10 years older and doing Lichaa's job for him as well as his own. He's also only had 1 good game in the last 3 years.

 

[TYGA]

1\. Hopoate
6\. Foran
7\. Mbye
9\. Lichea/ JMK

And some say our spine looks bad.

Hoppa at 1 has better form than Tui
Foran is better than Reynolds
Mbye and Brooks a dead heat
Liccha without Des's boring game plan is better than Liddle.
So not a great argument

I think we have a much better squad and depth than the Dogs. The Bulldogs have lost key players which may hurt them Kasiano, Graham, Reynolds. In my view Kasiano and Graham > Woods. Foran is a huge risk hasn’t been quality for 3 years now. He has more class than Reynolds but is high risk player given injuries, off field dramas. Also would be dirty Hassler was used to buy him and then dumped.

 

[851]

Thankfully we didn't sign him.

I agree, I am glad he didn't come here

 

[851]

1\. Hopoate
6\. Foran
7\. Mbye
9\. Lichea/ JMK

And some say our spine looks bad.

Hoppa at 1 has better form than Tui
Foran is better than Reynolds
Mbye and Brooks a dead heat
Liccha without Des's boring game plan is better than Liddle.
So not a great argument

I think we have a much better squad and depth than the Dogs. The Bulldogs have lost key players which may hurt them Kasiano, Graham, Reynolds. In my view Kasiano and Graham Woods. Foran is a huge risk hasn’t been quality for 3 years now. He has more class than Reynolds but is high risk player given injuries, off field dramas. Also would be dirty Hassler was used to buy him and then dumped.

I agree our squad is better than the dogs, I don't think our spine is any better, potentially yes it is, but games are not won on potential

 

[old_man_tiger]

Bulldogs, like us, have a lot of unknowns about how they will perform.

I watched woods closely tonight, he tried to be more aggressive, which I think made him less effective. If they have done their dough on Woods there is a massive hole in their squad, and that will make the spines work harder.

851 is right about Hoppa, he has more runs on the board as a running fullback than Tui at NRL level. You can't use logic to argue otherwise, as Tui hasn't played there consistently. I believe Tui has an X factor Hoppa doesn't have, and with experience hope he eclipses him in the near future

 

[The_Queen]

To bad he's gone would be good to watch with his brother

 

[The_Queen]

And some say our spine looks bad.

Hoppa at 1 has better form than Tui
Foran is better than Reynolds
Mbye and Brooks a dead heat
Liccha without Des's boring game plan is better than Liddle.
So not a great argument

Hoppa is the most ineffective fullback in the comp. When was the last time he broke the line?

His form at 1 is pretty good, Tui is unproven at 1, there were plenty on here wanting us to sign Hoppa. Whilst I think he is no star at the back, he has the runs on the board, Tui is still to prove his form at 1.

I have been a Tui fan for a few years and the other year when he had the purple patch of form was great and at the warriors home ground they played the Lola song and the crowd was singing along he will be great at fullback big strong fast great step and has the big bum and hips that's hard to tackle just needs to talk more at the back

 

[240z]

Well at the start of the 2005 season we didn't really have any major potential in the spine:

1: Hodgson SOO player
6: Marshall only 11 fg games and 2 shoulder dislocations
7: Prince 62 fg games and 2 broken legs and dropped by the Broncos
9: Farah 7 fg games and coming back from a knee reconstruction

You can't judge a team until you have seen them play together for a season.

You just don't know what these guys will do next year

1: Tui
6: Reynolds
7: Brooks
9: Liddle

This time next year we will know if we have a weak spine or not.

 

[supercoach]

A lot of people on this forum are death riding Tui for some reason. He has exceeded my expectations during his short career with us and by all accounts is going great guns for Tonga (presently in Germany so have not seen him play). So I can’t see why he will not be a good no1.. I just get the feeling this forum is going to give him a Fitzhenry the minute he makes a mistake at the back.

I for one is more than happy to give him a fair crack at the job before crying for his head

 

[GNR4LIFE]

A lot of people on this forum are death riding Tui for some reason. He has exceeded my expectations during his short career with us and by all accounts is going great guns for Tonga (presently in Germany so have not seen him play). So I can’t see why he will not be a good no1.. I just get the feeling this forum is going to give him a Fitzhenry the minute he makes a mistake at the back.

I for one is more than happy to give him a fair crack at the job before crying for his head

A lot of our new signings are being deathridden. Tui, Reynolds, McQueen etc. The funny part is, whether the people criticising them know it or not, bagging the signings is bagging Cleary as he is the one who put this team together. I maintain that it won't be long till a large chunk of the forum turns on him.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

We tend to overreact to everything. Tui takes an intercept and he’s going to be the answer to all our problems. Fonua misses one tackle and he’s a dud. I for one am excited about our roster - it looks solid. I’m sure we will be better than before. Will we make the 8? I don’t know. Potentially we can - but so can everyone else.

 

[bp_tiger]

We tend to overreact to everything. Tui takes an intercept and he’s going to be the answer to all our problems. Fonua misses one tackle and he’s a dud. I for one am excited about our roster - it looks solid. I’m sure we will be better than before. Will we make the 8? I don’t know. Potentially we can - but so can everyone else.

fonua was excellent last night , he is a gun and will be for us. still think we need a gun backrower, nothing on our roster fills that role. really liked the look of sika manu for tonga, i know is is over 30 but for 1 year would fill a hole.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

We tend to overreact to everything. Tui takes an intercept and he’s going to be the answer to all our problems. Fonua misses one tackle and he’s a dud. I for one am excited about our roster - it looks solid. I’m sure we will be better than before. Will we make the 8? I don’t know. Potentially we can - but so can everyone else.

fonua was excellent last night , he is a gun and will be for us. still think we need a gun backrower, nothing on our roster fills that role. really liked the look of sika manu for tonga, i know is is over 30 but for 1 year would fill a hole.

Fonua, Milne, Packer etc - we're certainly gonna have some hard running, hard to bring down players in our team next season and that is very exciting. Milne has a touch of class about him as well, imo.

On Tui, I just want to see what he can do at the back, but every time I've seen him play he is bumbling around in the halves! He is an unknown element as a fullback, so it's hard to judge on his performances at 5/8, but I'm hoping he is much more suited to the custodian role and absolutely kills it there.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

No (based on year’s club performance and what I have seen for Tonga)
Manly version may be
No
Definitely No

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We tend to overreact to everything. Tui takes an intercept and he’s going to be the answer to all our problems. Fonua misses one tackle and he’s a dud. I for one am excited about our roster - it looks solid. I’m sure we will be better than before. Will we make the 8? I don’t know. Potentially we can - but so can everyone else.

fonua was excellent last night , he is a gun and will be for us. still think we need a gun backrower, nothing on our roster fills that role. really liked the look of sika manu for tonga, i know is is over 30 but for 1 year would fill a hole.

Fonua, Milne, Packer etc - we're certainly gonna have some hard running, hard to bring down players in our team next season and that is very exciting. Milne has a touch of class about him as well, imo.

On Tui, I just want to see what he can do at the back, but every time I've seen him play he is bumbling around in the halves! He is an unknown element as a fullback, so it's hard to judge on his performances at 5/8, but I'm hoping he is much more suited to the custodian role and absolutely kills it there.

He played a lot of games for the Warriors at the back.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

1\. Hopoate
6\. Foran
7\. Mbye
9\. Lichea/ JMK

And some say our spine looks bad.

Hoppa at 1 has better form than Tui
Foran is better than Reynolds
Mbye and Brooks a dead heat
Liccha without Des's boring game plan is better than Liddle.

No (based on year’s club performance and what I have seen for Tonga)
Manly version may be
No
Definitely No

 

[happy_tiger]

Hoppa at 1 has better form than Tui
Foran is better than Reynolds
Mbye and Brooks a dead heat
Liccha without Des's boring game plan is better than Liddle.
So not a great argument

You have got to be kidding

Are you a dogs supporter or an anti-tigers supporter

Tell me where I am wrong, and I have supported wests/weststigers for almost 50 years

Hoppa's a ball-player and Tui's a ball-runner so, they're a little difficult to compare.

Foran was better than Reynolds but, over the past couple of years Foran has been very ordinary.

Mbye is the worst half in the comp. I'd have Brooks between 10-7 of all halfbacks in the comp.

Lichaa is the most unfit hooker I've seen for awhile. Farah is 10 years older and doing Lichaa's job for him as well as his own. He's also only had 1 good game in the last 3 years.

Watch Lichaa flourish under Dean Pay , when a coach takes away a players possible options they become very one dimensional , Lichaa will get his running game back and he'll meet his early career raps in my opinion

 

[GNR4LIFE]

You have got to be kidding

Are you a dogs supporter or an anti-tigers supporter

Tell me where I am wrong, and I have supported wests/weststigers for almost 50 years

Hoppa's a ball-player and Tui's a ball-runner so, they're a little difficult to compare.

Foran was better than Reynolds but, over the past couple of years Foran has been very ordinary.

Mbye is the worst half in the comp. I'd have Brooks between 10-7 of all halfbacks in the comp.

Lichaa is the most unfit hooker I've seen for awhile. Farah is 10 years older and doing Lichaa's job for him as well as his own. He's also only had 1 good game in the last 3 years.

Watch Lichaa flourish under Dean Pay , when a coach takes away a players possible options they become very one dimensional , Lichaa will get his running game back and he'll meet his early career raps in my opinion

You can say the same for Reynolds

 

[Nelson]

And some say our spine looks bad.

Hoppa at 1 has better form than Tui
Foran is better than Reynolds
Mbye and Brooks a dead heat
Liccha without Des's boring game plan is better than Liddle.
So not a great argument

Hoppa is the most ineffective fullback in the comp. When was the last time he broke the line?

His form at 1 is pretty good, Tui is unproven at 1, there were plenty on here wanting us to sign Hoppa. Whilst I think he is no star at the back, he has the runs on the board, Tui is still to prove his form at 1.

I wanted us to sign Hoppa but it was as a centre, not a fullback. Lolohea is not unproven at fullback, he played the best football of his career at fullback for the Warriors in 2015.

 

[happy_tiger]

Tell me where I am wrong, and I have supported wests/weststigers for almost 50 years

Hoppa's a ball-player and Tui's a ball-runner so, they're a little difficult to compare.

Foran was better than Reynolds but, over the past couple of years Foran has been very ordinary.

Mbye is the worst half in the comp. I'd have Brooks between 10-7 of all halfbacks in the comp.

Lichaa is the most unfit hooker I've seen for awhile. Farah is 10 years older and doing Lichaa's job for him as well as his own. He's also only had 1 good game in the last 3 years.

Watch Lichaa flourish under Dean Pay , when a coach takes away a players possible options they become very one dimensional , Lichaa will get his running game back and he'll meet his early career raps in my opinion

You can say the same for Reynolds

I'm not sure what part of Reynolds game he had to shelve though , he has always a 100% toiler and you know he will show up for every play at 100 % and is great support player but I would never have said he is a player that could control a game or be a No 1 playmaker /creative player

If we had a Cronk ,DCE , Johnson Pierce etc he is a good foil , but we don't unless Cleary Junior is on his way in 2019

And speaking about that , if people can't see the main reason that Penrith let Moylan go was to try and keep Cleary at all costs they have rocks in their head