JTs Presser..after Dogs game..

[TigerSJ]

I agree with Happy.. the Bulldogs game brought me back to reality in a lot of areas.

They scored 6 tries against us and could have scored 10 - I don't think we were as close as the scoreboard showed. We got absolutely monstered in the forwards when they decided to have a go at us and they looked likely to score whenever they held the ball. On the other hand we pretty much ran out of ideas when the game was there for the winning and couldn't muster a lot of strike without Teddy.

I'm afraid their guys on the edges like Morris , Rona and Perrot were far superior to ours, as were nearly every one of their forwards (including their bench). Sounds awful - but it's realistic.

Look guys, I really love the Tiges but as much as I believe we have improved in some areas, we are still a fair way off the top 4 sides in quality of players as well as attitude. Aren't we averaging around 26 points against per game - that's pretty poor honestly. Like a lot of fans, I have been excited at times this year, especially when we have clicked but that has been on the back of some attacking flair that we certainly have (especially with Teddy in the side and only when our forwards dominate) but at best we are a below middle of the table team and will have a huge battle to make the eight or have any impact if we did.

On another question - why is our outside defence so bad? Perhaps this is a topic on it's own. How come some other teams always have the numbers sliding across to cover yet there are overlaps galore on our edges? Is it our structure that's the problem? Are our backs incapable of numbering up? Are our forwards not trusting of each other and too bunched in the ruck area leaving us short when the ball goes wide?
Maybe it's all of the above!

 

[innsaneink]

Anyone complaining about our roster management over the second half of the yr are looking for things to complain about, seriously. Buchanan and Milone gone. In their place guys like ET, Felise and JAC. Those changes are what has us on the cusp of the 8, but some still aren't happy?

If you don't think our right edge particularly Naiqama need a stint in reggies until they fix their defensive issues then you must be watching different games to me. Our right edge will be what makes us miss out on the 8 so don't get excited about being on the "cusp"

Well then, might as well throw in the towel right now then now you have us definitely missing the 8\. Time to start planning for 2017.

Btw Moses is on the right edge. You'd drop him would you? No wonder you have us missing the 8 😕

We leaked 32 points against the Bulldogs of which most of them were down our right hand side. And FYI I really hope I'm proven wrong and we do make the 8, but you can't keep leaking points the way we do and expect it will all be ok. Yes maybe our attack has improved since the Canberra game but we still have major defensive issues.. 221 points scored against us in 9 games since we played Canberra. I can't see us making the 8 with defence like that.

Yep… People seem a bit blinded by the still very very poor defence... Maybe a few wins does that.

I don't want to make the semis scoring 33 points to 32....that's nothing to be proud of

 

[underdog]

If you don't think our right edge particularly Naiqama need a stint in reggies until they fix their defensive issues then you must be watching different games to me. Our right edge will be what makes us miss out on the 8 so don't get excited about being on the "cusp"

Well then, might as well throw in the towel right now then now you have us definitely missing the 8\. Time to start planning for 2017.

Btw Moses is on the right edge. You'd drop him would you? No wonder you have us missing the 8 😕

We leaked 32 points against the Bulldogs of which most of them were down our right hand side. And FYI I really hope I'm proven wrong and we do make the 8, but you can't keep leaking points the way we do and expect it will all be ok. Yes maybe our attack has improved since the Canberra game but we still have major defensive issues.. 221 points scored against us in 9 games since we played Canberra. I can't see us making the 8 with defence like that.

Yep… People seem a bit blinded by the still very very poor defence... Maybe a few wins does that.

I don't want to make the semis scoring 33 points to 32....that's nothing to be proud of

Honestly ink, I just want to see them make the semis.

I don't care how they get there. Once they are there it's game on all over again.

 

[tigerman80]

I dont know what it is, but this is the best ive felt watching the tigers in a couple of years. Its a great feeling going into games thinking we have a chance to win, no matter who were playing. We held our own against the dogs with 3 of our best players missing. Lets fix up that right hand side defence (the only part of our game to not improve) and semis here we come.

 

[maxxy86]

I reckon If we're to make the eight the next two rounds have to be wins…..no two ways about it. Think it will be important also to get a settled team for the remaining 7 games.
Having said this I can't see us making it but we might just be building for a solid 2017 if we can sort out our defensive issues.

 

[coopy]

We are probably one to two quality players short of a top eight team. The upside is that we've seen the benefit of having a quality player in ET.

Like most I see the improvement and the effort. We are building but I fear we just miss out this year.

 

[happy_tiger]

With our for and against 6 from 7 will prove a bridge too far unfortunately

Our F/A won't be much of an issue if we keep winning. That's a myth that needs to be debunked. What is it, -76 or something like that? The Dragons is minus -123 and Penrith's is -37\. And we play these teams meaning if we beat them, our diff will improve and there's will get worse.

I can't see us beating the Cows or Raiders GNR

You don't see us beating anyone happy.

:deadhorse:

No Col I just can't see us being consistent enough in winning 6 from 7

I hope I'm wrong about that and our for and against , but logic tells me otherwise

 

[happy_tiger]

Our F/A won't be much of an issue if we keep winning. That's a myth that needs to be debunked. What is it, -76 or something like that? The Dragons is minus -123 and Penrith's is -37\. And we play these teams meaning if we beat them, our diff will improve and there's will get worse.

I can't see us beating the Cows or Raiders GNR

You don't see us beating anyone happy.

:deadhorse:

Exactly. He is desperate for us to be so bad. We're not. I admit it's a tough ask for us to make the 8 but if we are full strength and we play positive footy we can beat any team in the comp.

If we'd beaten the Dogs ,(as I said in another thread ) I'd have given us a chance because I could see us dropping the 2 games the one's I mentioned and our poor for and against is truly against us

Of course I want us to miss the Top 8 year after year

You have made some comments that just astound me , but that just takes the cake Steve

You know you've never answered one question I have asked Steve, I wonder why not

No I don't , I know exactly why you don't answer them

And so do you , don't you …...

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Happy the F/A will not be an issue. Instead of harping on about us, look at the teams around us. They aren't world beaters.

 

[Masterton]

I can't see us beating the Cows or Raiders GNR

You don't see us beating anyone happy.

:deadhorse:

No Col I just can't see us being consistent enough in winning 6 from 7

I think both the Cows and Raiders are beatable. We're genuinely looking like a team that can beat anyone. But 6 (or 5) from 7 might be a reach. Consistent footy has been beyond us so far, and it's not hard to imagine us losing to one of the weaker teams.

Can't wait for the Saints match.

 

[stevetiger]

Happy - I have no idea what you are on about. I answer every question asked of me. I think we have a team with a lot of talent. I think your comments regarding the player's ability are basically delusional.

I think you are so obsessed with JT being the super coach and you've bought into his defensive palava that you've lost all perspective. I think you'd rather us lose games than you have to adjust your opinion. This small run of wins must be killing you.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The consistency thing is another thing I don't get either. We have been consistent, even with our losses. Our last two losses have been against 2 teams in the top 4 and with a bounce of the ball could easily in both games caused a boil over. Not saying we're as good as those teams but we can beat them on our day. I think if we can sneak in, we are definitely a side who could cause havoc due to our unpredictability. We're not like the Dragons who sneak in like they did last yr and get bailed out the first week. We could, but we could also do some damage.

 

[Geo]

We won't win too many if we consistantly give up 32 points a game…

Palava indeed...

 

[Tigerdon]

We won't win too many if we consistantly give up 32 points a game…

Palava indeed...

Yep. It's not like we can't tackle. And we do have some great defensive players in the team. ET , Robbie and Woods are holding the middle. Which was a weakness in the past.
Parra , a few years ago could attack from anywhere with Hayne at the back. Yet they got the spoon two years in a row.
This year ( through cheating the cap) they turned it around. Beau Scott helped a lot, along with others. Still credit should also go to their coaching staff. Who is their defensive coach this year?

 

[tigermac88]

We won't win too many if we consistantly give up 32 points a game…

Palava indeed...

Yep… Someone else gets it.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We won't win too many if we consistantly give up 32 points a game…

Palava indeed...

Yep… Someone else gets it.

You're talking us down in this thread, yet talking us up in the other that's similar to this one. As you said, our destiny is in our hands. Forget Happy's doom and gloom about the points diff because if we're winning we're improving ours while damaging the others around us, so that would obviously change that. As I said, we've come this far with terrible defence, why can't it carry us for another 6 weeks. We're not Newcastle.

 

[Eddie]

The reason I give us a chance is like GNR said, lookat who we are competing against.

A Dragons that that is quite frankly awful.

A Titans side that has punched above their weight all year.

And a Penrith side that we just beat

We dont have to win 7 in a row. We just have to find a way to beat these teams home who we all play.

Now like Happy said it is hard to see us not stumbling along the way, however you could say the same for the other teams. I cant imiagine their fans would be chock full of confidence.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The reason I give us a chance is like GNR said, lookat who we are competing against.

A Dragons that that is quite frankly awful.

A Titans side that has punched above their weight all year.

And a Penrith side that we just beat

We dont have to win 7 in a row. We just have to find a way to beat these teams home who we all play.

Now like Happy said it is hard to see us not stumbling along the way, however you could say the same for the other teams. I cant imiagine their fans would be chock full of confidence.

Exactly my point. It's a new ball game after the bye and it's only those teams we need to beat to the post. Idk how anyone can say it's not doable. Some on here are so insulated in our own teams bubble that they don't pay attention to how average the teams around us are.

 

[tigermac88]

We won't win too many if we consistantly give up 32 points a game…

Palava indeed...

Yep… Someone else gets it.

You're talking us down in this thread, yet talking us up in the other that's similar to this one. As you said, our destiny is in our hands. Forget Happy's doom and gloom about the points diff because if we're winning we're improving ours while damaging the others around us, so that would obviously change that. As I said, we've come this far with terrible defence, why can't it carry us for another 6 weeks. We're not Newcastle.

Oh well I hope you're right and I'm proven wrong, I'm sick of watching finals series without the Tigers involved. In a few more weeks things may be a little clearer.

 

[ricksen]

The reason I give us a chance is like GNR said, lookat who we are competing against.

A Dragons that that is quite frankly awful.

A Titans side that has punched above their weight all year.

And a Penrith side that we just beat

We dont have to win 7 in a row. We just have to find a way to beat these teams home who we all play.

Now like Happy said it is hard to see us not stumbling along the way, however you could say the same for the other teams. I cant imiagine their fans would be chock full of confidence.

Exactly my point. It's a new ball game after the bye and it's only those teams we need to beat to the post. Idk how anyone can say it's not doable. Some on here are so insulated in our own teams bubble that they don't pay attention to how average the teams around us are.

It's definitely doable.
That said, every game is against a team ahead of us on the ladder (other than Parramatta - who would be ahead without the penalty).
I absolutely expect us to win at least 3 of the 7, but there are some really tough games against teams with a lot to play for. We will be outsiders with the betting agencies for pretty much every game bar the Titans at Campbelltown.
Lets go one week at a time - the Dragons is as much of a must win we've had in ages. A game we should win.