Justin Pascoe on 2ky 8am today

[NT_Tiger]

Do we have to question the signing on Oliver Clark

Was the signing necessary or helping Penrith out

We have to question almost everything Cleary has done from mid 2018 onwards recruitment retention wise , players he let go ….....

Does Cleary bring the game into disrepute .........?? Does the NRL have to look into his dealing with the club ......??

A good point, well made.
I wonder if Pascoe and Go are questioning this aspect of the charade, and if they are talking to the NRL about it.

 

[yeti]

As I posted a couple of times, Ivan would have known what Nathan was planning to do. The two of them would surely have had a plan. I don't sit this with Gould, I sit it firmly on Ivan's shoulders.
There are a few on this forum (myself included) that stood by his word, thinking he was a man of integrity. I wonder if anyone ever will again?

The fact that many of you stuck by him and trusted him is a credit to you. It shows that you have faith in people.

It is a horrible place to be to see evil and deception in everyone.

The worst outcome in all of this would be you, others and especially younger Tiges fans losing faith in public figures.

Most people do not behave like Ivan has. This is the exception rather than the rule. I write this a little to remind others and mainly to remind myself.

Well said Mate.

Thanks Mccarry. That's pretty much my outlook as well. Too much cynicism in this world and dogs like Cleary just reinforce it unfortunately. The world needs more positive people who look at the upside.

 

[yeti]

Do we have to question the signing on Oliver Clark

Was the signing necessary or helping Penrith out

We have to question almost everything Cleary has done from mid 2018 onwards recruitment retention wise , players he let go ….....

Does Cleary bring the game into disrepute .........?? Does the NRL have to look into his dealing with the club ......??

Interesting. I will give the kid a chance I guess. Hope he slays them. If he's a dud - well, one more thing to be dirty on Cleary about.

 

[supercoach]

Do we have to question the signing on Oliver Clark

Was the signing necessary or helping Penrith out

We have to question almost everything Cleary has done from mid 2018 onwards recruitment retention wise , players he let go ….....

Does Cleary bring the game into disrepute .........?? Does the NRL have to look into his dealing with the club ......??

It’s seems he did not rate us so You would think he would not be interested in trying to downgrade our club.
Although from about three months ago he lost all integrity and trust he once had

 

[innsaneink]

Why would people whose preference to wait for official announcements rather than rely on media speculation, guessing that we know for a fact is often wrong be "hiding"?
I really don't see why anyone would have a problem with this but you Patriot?

 

[hammertime]

Do we have to question the signing on Oliver Clark

Was the signing necessary or helping Penrith out

We have to question almost everything Cleary has done from mid 2018 onwards recruitment retention wise , players he let go ….....

Does Cleary bring the game into disrepute .........?? Does the NRL have to look into his dealing with the club ......??

A good point, well made.
I wonder if Pascoe and Go are questioning this aspect of the charade, and if they are talking to the NRL about it.

It's worth a look, but I think they changed the recruitment a few years back to remove the risk of getting into trouble with backloaded contracts. It's a team of guys, rather than just the coach. Pretty sure it includes Pascoe and Egan in the decision.

 

[innsaneink]

I remember most people being happy with players finally being accountable… Getting dropped etc etc.

 

[Balmainian]

As I posted a couple of times, Ivan would have known what Nathan was planning to do. The two of them would surely have had a plan. I don't sit this with Gould, I sit it firmly on Ivan's shoulders.
There are a few on this forum (myself included) that stood by his word, thinking he was a man of integrity. I wonder if anyone ever will again?

The fact that many of you stuck by him and trusted him is a credit to you. It shows that you have faith in people.

It is a horrible place to be to see evil and deception in everyone.

The worst outcome in all of this would be you, others and especially younger Tiges fans losing faith in public figures.

Most people do not behave like Ivan has. This is the exception rather than the rule. I write this a little to remind others and mainly to remind myself.

Well said Mate.

Good message there.

I completely understand anyone who has I’ll feelings towards Cleary. I don’t, however I wouldn’t sing his praises either.
I think the part that stings…...is he did it to us, a club renowned for struggling and being stable.
We didn’t deserve to be thrown under the bus(never mind the pun).
I was happy as Larry when he joined us, he had a good rep, he held respect with the nrl community.....he doesn’t have that anymore!!!
But money can do funny things to people. Unfortunately I think it has stained Clearys legacy if he ever had one.

 

[tigger2010]

i would more like to question why leilani latu was pretty much close to a done deal at the tigers then just recently decided to go back to the panthers,around the same time Cleary decided as well?

 

[happy_tiger]

i would more like to question why leilani latu was pretty much close to a done deal at the tigers then just recently decided to go back to the panthers,around the same time Cleary decided as well?

I don't remember that Latu was a done deal or a near done deal

Somebody remember otherwise or has seen an article about it

 

[jadtiger]

i would more like to question why leilani latu was pretty much close to a done deal at the tigers then just recently decided to go back to the panthers,around the same time Cleary decided as well?

I dont remember that at all,where did that rumour come from?

 

[innsaneink]

News to me

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Do we have to question the signing on Oliver Clark

Was the signing necessary or helping Penrith out

We have to question almost everything Cleary has done from mid 2018 onwards recruitment retention wise , players he let go ….....

Does Cleary bring the game into disrepute .........?? Does the NRL have to look into his dealing with the club ......??

A good point, well made.
I wonder if Pascoe and Go are questioning this aspect of the charade, and if they are talking to the NRL about it.

It's worth a look, but I think they changed the recruitment a few years back to remove the risk of getting into trouble with backloaded contracts. It's a team of guys, rather than just the coach. Pretty sure it includes Pascoe and Egan in the decision.

I agree Russell and believe the NRL should investigate his decision making at the Club insofar as recruitment and retention is concerned. I question the departure of Moses and subsequent recruitment of Reynolds. Reynolds is a fine player but Moses is an x factor player whom we badly need. Maguire certainly would have changed him.

 

[Nelson]

Do we have to question the signing on Oliver Clark

Was the signing necessary or helping Penrith out

We have to question almost everything Cleary has done from mid 2018 onwards recruitment retention wise , players he let go ….....

Does Cleary bring the game into disrepute .........?? Does the NRL have to look into his dealing with the club ......??

A good point, well made.
I wonder if Pascoe and Go are questioning this aspect of the charade, and if they are talking to the NRL about it.

It's worth a look, but I think they changed the recruitment a few years back to remove the risk of getting into trouble with backloaded contracts. It's a team of guys, rather than just the coach. Pretty sure it includes Pascoe and Egan in the decision.

I agree Russell and believe the NRL should investigate his decision making at the Club insofar as recruitment and retention is concerned. I question the departure of Moses and subsequent recruitment of Reynolds. Reynolds is a fine player but Moses is an x factor player whom we badly need. Maguire certainly would have changed him.

Sorry but you're off the reservation with that one. Every coach makes a questionable signing now and then, and plenty have been made that are worse than Reynolds. Reynolds had an injury plagued season which obviously was not part of the plan so it's pretty hard to fairly judge his effectiveness anyway.

Moving Moses on was the right move. He and Brooks had not been working well together and the attitude of Moses was (and remains) poor. Parra are looking to move him on for a reason. He's a downhill skier who can't defend and is not a team player.

 

[jadtiger]

Do we have to question the signing on Oliver Clark

Was the signing necessary or helping Penrith out

We have to question almost everything Cleary has done from mid 2018 onwards recruitment retention wise , players he let go ….....

Does Cleary bring the game into disrepute .........?? Does the NRL have to look into his dealing with the club ......??

A good point, well made.
I wonder if Pascoe and Go are questioning this aspect of the charade, and if they are talking to the NRL about it.

It's worth a look, but I think they changed the recruitment a few years back to remove the risk of getting into trouble with backloaded contracts. It's a team of guys, rather than just the coach. Pretty sure it includes Pascoe and Egan in the decision.

I agree Russell and believe the NRL should investigate his decision making at the Club insofar as recruitment and retention is concerned. I question the departure of Moses and subsequent recruitment of Reynolds. Reynolds is a fine player but Moses is an x factor player whom we badly need. Maguire certainly would have changed him.

Disagree on Moses we are much better off without him

 

[prattenparkchild]

Dont question Moses, nor recruitment of Reynolds but…........... I do question his actions over the last 3 months of the season. The teams performance went downhill, we blamed the players but we did at times question his selections and in my case his inactions as coach in trying to steady the team when they were clearly loosing focus and cohesion. Cleary didnt care, nor did he say anything at after match press conferences when we were on the end of dud refereeing and cheap shots by opposing teams. With the benefit of hindsight something was amiss. One has to question these ongoing discussions with Penrith hierarchy 'over Nathan's progress' we innocently thought were just being a good dad. He was obviously talking to the opposition- even if it was only about Nathan - which I have grave doubts over.

 

[colmcd]

i would more like to question why leilani latu was pretty much close to a done deal at the tigers then just recently decided to go back to the panthers,around the same time Cleary decided as well?

I dont remember that at all,where did that rumour come from?

Quick, lets check signing and rumours thread.

Would be hilarious if this actual rumour was missed and not guessed.

 

[Russell]

A good point, well made.
I wonder if Pascoe and Go are questioning this aspect of the charade, and if they are talking to the NRL about it.

It's worth a look, but I think they changed the recruitment a few years back to remove the risk of getting into trouble with backloaded contracts. It's a team of guys, rather than just the coach. Pretty sure it includes Pascoe and Egan in the decision.

I agree Russell and believe the NRL should investigate his decision making at the Club insofar as recruitment and retention is concerned. I question the departure of Moses and subsequent recruitment of Reynolds. Reynolds is a fine player but Moses is an x factor player whom we badly need. Maguire certainly would have changed him.

Disagree on Moses we are much better off without him

X2

 

[hammertime]

With the signings, Pascoe explicitly said about the reformed recruitment 'team' in an interview. The aim is to remove the risk we had in the past of the backloaded contracts (same predicament the Bulldogs are in now) by having only 1 person responsible for contracts with no oversight.

So, recruitment never solely came down to Cleary. Say all you like, but we can't pin him for much there.

 

[851]

With the signings, Pascoe explicitly said about the reformed recruitment 'team' in an interview. The aim is to remove the risk we had in the past of the backloaded contracts (same predicament the Bulldogs are in now) by having only 1 person responsible for contracts with no oversight.

So, recruitment never solely came down to Cleary. Say all you like, but we can't pin him for much there.

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