Lara Pitt

@Milky said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220764) said:
@Geo said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220763) said:
@Milky said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220760) said:
Meh, there is a particular trend with coaches losing the locker room and a certain player and he won’t be here next year so whatever

Which player

The club legend thats moving on


Lawrence?? I don't think so.
 
Madge has been polishing Cleary’s roster turd for two seasons now, and pretty much squeezed the lemon dry.

Underperforming players are undermining the hierarchy to deflect responsibility and accountability. Because of contracts and player welfare Madge has to agitate players out of the club and of course some don’t like it. This situation is going to be fertile ground for the media to report sordid storylines for a little while to come, but the club doesn’t have much choice but to experience some pain in an effort to weed out the rot from the playing ranks.

It was encouraging that a number of journalists and ex-players from different media are in Madge’s corner and supporting him, they can see the situation and understand what Madge is having to do and the club is backing him.

Ivan Cleary is the one who should be feeling heat for this situation, but he’s laughing from afar blowing kisses... 😘😘😘❤️❤️❤️
 
Some of you just don’t get it. This story is nothing to pop the champagne corks over. It’s not “great” that we finally have a hard nosed coach. It’s only going to get Madge so far with the board. It’s fine to support him in the short term, but if the players are still unhappy this time next year, he will be gone. There is a middle ground between being a walk over and a stand over. It seems Madge is at the other end than we are usually used to. He obviously struggles to build a rapport with the players. Madge might get support in the short term, but it will ultimately bite him. Don’t forget about our best player last year walking out on the club. Yeah, Matterson might have been soft, but you can’t say Maguire can’t take some ownership over that situation given what’s happening now. He’s clearly on the nose, and the players have the ultimate say. If they decide to tank it, they will tank it, there’s nothing the coach can do, and will leave the board with only one option.
 
Winning dressing rooms are happy places losing dressing rooms are unhappy places. Everyone were happy campers when they were winning, now their losing the cracks are getting bigger. Nothing new happens with every club, look at the Bronks. The media love it, drama sells more advertising than articles on the Chooks winning every week.

Of course most footballers have enlarged egos and when they get bruised the blame game starts. Anyway as the loses stack up over the next few weeks, so will the rubbish media offerings
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220990) said:
Some of you just don’t get it. This story is nothing to pop the champagne corks over. It’s not “great” that we finally have a hard nosed coach. It’s only going to get Madge so far with the board. It’s fine to support him in the short term, but if the players are still unhappy this time next year, he will be gone. There is a middle ground between being a walk over and a stand over. It seems Madge is at the other end than we are usually used to. He obviously struggles to build a rapport with the players. Madge might get support in the short term, but it will ultimately bite him. Don’t forget about our best player last year walking out on the club. Yeah, Matterson might have been soft, but you can’t say Maguire can’t take some ownership over that situation given what’s happening now. He’s clearly on the nose, and the players have the ultimate say. If they decide to tank it, they will tank it, there’s nothing the coach can do, and will leave the board with only one option.


You may be right, but only time will tell. I think the board have made a wise decision to hire a “take no prisoners” toe cutter with the courage to have open dialogue. Despite what Benji says publicly, I think players know exactly where they stand.
In so many cases the toe cutter doesn’t make friends and is replaced when his job is done but to do the same in this situation would be a step backwards, because the job will take a few years.
I realise the meaning of Cleary’s kiss blowing now.
Too many tigers turned into pussy cats.
 
@Fletch said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220983) said:
Madge has been polishing Cleary’s roster turd for two seasons now, and pretty much squeezed the lemon dry.

Underperforming players are undermining the hierarchy to deflect responsibility and accountability. Because of contracts and player welfare Madge has to agitate players out of the club and of course some don’t like it. This situation is going to be fertile ground for the media to report sordid storylines for a little while to come, but the club doesn’t have much choice but to experience some pain in an effort to weed out the rot from the playing ranks.

It was encouraging that a number of journalists and ex-players from different media are in Madge’s corner and supporting him, they can see the situation and understand what Madge is having to do and the club is backing him.

Ivan Cleary is the one who should be feeling heat for this situation, but he’s laughing from afar blowing kisses... 😘😘😘❤️❤️❤️

Exactly.
 
and i dont like watching the team play these days- we are dull boringside to watch- its like watching a warren ryan coached side from the eighties.
i realise the coach can only work with the players he has, very much like canterbury.Apart from a liddle or grant scoot,theres not much to jump out of the recliner for.
Try a chip over the top, a run around or a flick pass cause what they are doing aint working.
The tigers used to be known for their attacking flair now its diddly squatt.
so i suppose it is the coaches corner to make the tigers interesting again.
 
Lara Pitt had some good points last night that got overlooked.

For mine, the fact that Madge won a premiership at Souths (which nobody has done since) but was given the boot says that he's a very good coach but has poor people skills.

It seems like things haven't changed too much. If this report is true, it's pretty bad form. I think any of us would be fuming if our boss treated is this way (source, smh):

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*There's also a perception among the playing group that the coach avoids confrontation. It was evident again during the week when Marshall walked into Maguire's office on Monday and strongly suggested he should play on in 2021 at the Tigers.

Maguire, despite playing a leading hand in the decision not to extend the club legend, left the door ajar and told Marshall to give him 24 hours to see if he could do anything else.

The club, already booked in for a meeting with his manager later that day, didn't budge on the original decision. but Marshall was left disappointed that Maguire couldn't tell it how it was.*
 
The Change Room is more than just a place to prepare for a game and rest at half time.

Let’s start there to change the teams attitude, behaviour and culture led by Madge!

Let’s take that first step by putting in an EFFORT and COMMIT to making the change required to make this club a winning one again!

Acknowledge the errors of the past to move forward you tossers!
 
@BAGNF05 said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220755) said:
If he’s lost that many he’s a goner, they’re all under contract

Not so. If you look at the current roster and when their contracts run till, it is clear that in just over 12 months time, around 50% of the squad will not be here.

I imagine that it is that 50% that he has lost.
 
@Properossi said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1221046) said:
The Change Room is more than just a place to prepare for a game and rest at half time.

Let’s start there to change the teams attitude, behaviour and culture led by Madge!

Let’s take that first step by putting in an EFFORT and COMMIT to making the change required to make this club a winning one again!

Acknowledge the errors of the past to move forward you tossers!

Rugby league is a team game. If the team breaks down, individuals become easy pickings for vultures. it's time for everyone to stick together, hang tough and get through this period.

Mel Gibson's movie "We Were Warriors' portrays the US Army Air Cavalry in 1965 in the Ia Drang Valley. This was the 7th Cavalry which traded in its horses for Huey Helos. The book "We Were Warriors Once and Young'' by the CO Hal Moore and journalist Joe Galloway gives a true account of the battles. At once stage B Company of the second Battalion of the 7th Cavalry were called back into action after just getting out of the LZ Xray battle. These men were in the midst of drinking beer and celebrating when called back to battle at LZ Albany. The men would jump from Hueys under fire. The Captain was worried his men would not follow. As they were marching to the helos the Captain without looking behind asked the Sergeant if the men were all there. The Sergeant came out with the famed 'every swinging dick in the Company Sir'.

The point is strong leadership and an unbending belief will win out.
 
@BalmainJnr said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220901) said:
Kent and Hooper made a number of valid points for once (kinda shocked actually) and even went about correcting the narrative. Not sure what Pitt was on about, she was hosed down pretty quickly on her bizarre slant about Madge having to find a way to work with and appease the lemons who won’t perform.

Best comment so far from Joey on that show he has with Freddy and Guy Smiley - "easy: turn up, make your tackles, jeez."
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220903) said:
Geez there’s a lot of hysteria on here

Let's be honest though, hysteria is fairly par for the course on the forum?
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220990) said:
It’s fine to support him in the short term, but if the players are still unhappy this time next year, he will be gone.

Actually, this time next year, around 50% of the current playing group will be gone for 2022.
 
@Papacito said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1221025) said:
Lara Pitt had some good points last night that got overlooked.

For mine, the fact that Madge won a premiership at Souths (which nobody has done since) but was given the boot says that he's a very good coach but has poor people skills.

It seems like things haven't changed too much. If this report is true, it's pretty bad form. I think any of us would be fuming if our boss treated is this way (source, smh):

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*There's also a perception among the playing group that the coach avoids confrontation. It was evident again during the week when Marshall walked into Maguire's office on Monday and strongly suggested he should play on in 2021 at the Tigers.

Maguire, despite playing a leading hand in the decision not to extend the club legend, left the door ajar and told Marshall to give him 24 hours to see if he could do anything else.

The club, already booked in for a meeting with his manager later that day, didn't budge on the original decision. but Marshall was left disappointed that Maguire couldn't tell it how it was.*

Nothing wrong with that at all, don't know why you think it's bad form?

It's likely that Madge was able to cast the ultimate vote on Benji, in consultation with the others in the recruitment team. However that doesn't mean he had made his mind up when he spoke to Benji and it doesn't mean he wasn't persuaded (or even over-ruled) by the others, or that nothing changed in the space of a few days.

According to the account, Benji walks into his office and says I think I should play on, can we reach a deal. Madge may not have had his final answer at that point, and perhaps Benji coming in was the final move that told Tigers a decision was required now, this week.

I'll say this again: if Benji was playing great football then he'd have his extension. If he made his tackles he would never have been dropped. You don't go in to the boss with a weak hand and ask for a pay rise or a contract extension, and expect it will all just fall your way.

It's entirely possible that Madge genuinely wanted to keep Benji around and asked for some more time to see if they could figure something out. There may be third-party deals or maneuvering with marquee allowances or total player numbers.

It may be that something else moved wrt future signings and retention. We've seen enough from people like The_POM to know that signings decisions can change by the day, even just with Latrell, 50 comments that he was a done deal, then all of a sudden he isn't.

Madge may simply have changed his mind, which he is allowed to do.

I have no problem with any of this at all. If Benji feels hard done-by, he's been precious about it, I'm sorry. 100 people a week walk into their bosses office and ask for more money or an extension and lots of them walk away disappointed, whether their boss is their best mate or a complete moron.
 
@BAGNF05 said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220739) said:
NRL360 - Lara is spruiking that she has the inside word on player dissent over Madges’s communication style. Thinks he isn’t giving players respect or a reason when they’re dropped. Even dug up his Souths dramas as evidence he rubs players the wrong way. Any ideas who she’s matesy with? She really seems to have it in for him. 🤔

Sammy B from Souths obviously ...

She got hammered by Ikin , Baldy and Kent after she made those comments
 
@BAGNF05 said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220739) said:
NRL360 - Lara is spruiking that she has the inside word on player dissent over Madges’s communication style. Thinks he isn’t giving players respect or a reason when they’re dropped. Even dug up his Souths dramas as evidence he rubs players the wrong way. Any ideas who she’s matesy with? She really seems to have it in for him. 🤔

I think they are just his journo mates trying to stick the boot in. He does work there after all.
 
@TigerWest said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1221092) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [Lara Pitt](/post/1220739) said:
NRL360 - Lara is spruiking that she has the inside word on player dissent over Madges’s communication style. Thinks he isn’t giving players respect or a reason when they’re dropped. Even dug up his Souths dramas as evidence he rubs players the wrong way. Any ideas who she’s matesy with? She really seems to have it in for him. ?

I think they are just his journo mates trying to stick the boot in. He does work there after all.

Also they love the drama. It's become boring putting the boot into the Broncos and a lot of other teams have no flavour at the moment - Manly, Raiders, Roosters, Souths, Cowboys - there's hardly anything to write about on them.
 
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