Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion

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@teddy23 said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088032) said:
4 years for 4.2 million and he plays fullback

Front load his contract as it seems we won’t be signing anyone else for 2020 with significant value

1.2 million - 2020
1 million - 2021
1 million - 2022
1 million - 2023

This would be great business


Not if he's no good at fullback.
 
Lots of people on here saying Mitchell "rejected" the Tigers' first offer. From all the information we have, that's not correct. The Tigers made an offer, Mitchell (or Mitchell's advisors) dicked about trying to see if there was more money on offer elsewhere, the Tigers decided they didn't want to wait and withdrew the offer. At this stage it seems both sides might be coming to the conclusion that they only have one realistic option, which is each other.

Arguably, the Tigers actually have the stronger position because it doesn't look like Mitchell has anything else on the table but a season in reggies on much less money and trying his luck again in a year's time. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be much else out there that will radically improve the Tigers roster. If I was Pascoe, I'd be saying to Mitchell (or his advisors): we know you don't have much else out there but we'll do the right thing and honour the original offer if you sign up now, get into training straight away and we don't see any more nonsense in the media. 48 hours, take it or leave it.
 
@PabloX said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088036) said:
@teddy23 said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088032) said:
4 years for 4.2 million and he plays fullback

Front load his contract as it seems we won’t be signing anyone else for 2020 with significant value

1.2 million - 2020
1 million - 2021
1 million - 2022
1 million - 2023

This would be great business

Especially if we can get the roosters to chip in

Why on earth would they do that?
 
@Geo said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088043) said:
Geez an extra 330K in cap space would be handy right now..

Pascoe has it locked away.
 
@Geo said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088043) said:
Geez an extra 330K in cap space would be handy right now..

Maybe we can get Robbie play the first 10 weeks until Liddle is ready to roll on his Ambassador money given it comes under our cap anyway
 
@2041 said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088047) said:
@PabloX said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088036) said:
@teddy23 said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088032) said:
4 years for 4.2 million and he plays fullback

Front load his contract as it seems we won’t be signing anyone else for 2020 with significant value

1.2 million - 2020
1 million - 2021
1 million - 2022
1 million - 2023

This would be great business

Especially if we can get the roosters to chip in

Why on earth would they do that?

Because they're desperate to get rid of him before 2020.

They don't want all of his salary wasted playing for North Sydney.
 
@Chaos said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088009) said:
@Russell said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087999) said:
@Chaos said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087997) said:
@Russell said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087994) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087968) said:
If this is true, we have to up the ante and bump our offer. Offer him 1.3 if that’s what it takes. I know it’s overs, it’s obvious that’s what it will take to get him here. We’re having no luck, so desperate times call for desperate measures.

Trouble is what we have offered him and then withdrawn was way overs in my opinion. Now people are talking about another 300,000 per year.

How far above overs do you go?

Yes, yes, as far as it takes to get him...... No! the offer we tabled is too much.

850k per year would be my offer. I don't think he is a million dollar player....Yet!


‘Yet’ that’s the key word, why not get him on board now?
It is a risk, but the positives out weigh the negatives in my opinion, sadly, we are used to dud signings already, if it goes bad we can handle it.

You mean have a waste of 1 mill for another three years. Not worth the money - too big a risk. I know we are desperate but......

I don’t think it will be a waste, we have the cash that we have to spend, we need what he can potentially offer.
It’s a risk, but Not a waste.
We’ve signed a lot players at an ‘Overs Rate’.
Latrell is 22, he will only get better over the next few years.

What if he decides that he doesn't like it at the WT's as some of the other players have done and wants to break his contract (hopefully WT's have learned by their mistakes and put a clause in which will not allow him to do that ) I'm sick of these players that want out as soon as they get sick of it for whatever reason.

But of course we don't know that he is going to sign with us- I'll be surprised if he does:angry:
 
@tigeress said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088054) said:
@Chaos said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088009) said:
@Russell said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087999) said:
@Chaos said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087997) said:
@Russell said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087994) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087968) said:
If this is true, we have to up the ante and bump our offer. Offer him 1.3 if that’s what it takes. I know it’s overs, it’s obvious that’s what it will take to get him here. We’re having no luck, so desperate times call for desperate measures.

Trouble is what we have offered him and then withdrawn was way overs in my opinion. Now people are talking about another 300,000 per year.

How far above overs do you go?

Yes, yes, as far as it takes to get him...... No! the offer we tabled is too much.

850k per year would be my offer. I don't think he is a million dollar player....Yet!


‘Yet’ that’s the key word, why not get him on board now?
It is a risk, but the positives out weigh the negatives in my opinion, sadly, we are used to dud signings already, if it goes bad we can handle it.

You mean have a waste of 1 mill for another three years. Not worth the money - too big a risk. I know we are desperate but......

I don’t think it will be a waste, we have the cash that we have to spend, we need what he can potentially offer.
It’s a risk, but Not a waste.
We’ve signed a lot players at an ‘Overs Rate’.
Latrell is 22, he will only get better over the next few years.

What if he decides that he doesn't like it at the WT's as some of the other players have done and wants to break his contract (hopefully WT's have learned by their mistakes and put a clause in which will not allow him to do that ) I'm sick of these players that want out as soon as they get sick of it for whatever reason.

But of course we don't know that he is going to sign with us- I'll be surprised if he does:angry:

And do we really want him at our club:anguished:
 
@tigeress said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088054) said:
What if he decides that he doesn’t like it at the WT’s as some of the other players have done and wants to break his contract (hopefully WT’s have learned by their mistakes and put a clause in which will not allow him to do that ) I’m sick of these players that want out as soon as they get sick of it for whatever reason.

If we’re successful why would he want to leave? If we’re a good club and he’s playing well I’d see no reason for him to leave. Especially if we’re paying $1m+, who’s going to top that?
 
@swag_tiger said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088053) said:
I doubt they would have a NSW and Australian representative play in the NSW.

Why not?
What do you think Jason Taylor did with Farah?
 
@marzie said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088022) said:
Yep I'd up the original offer by a couple hundred thousand to get him

We 100% need him

The money we originally offered was not the reason he shied away from us
 
@tigeress said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088056) said:
@tigeress said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088054) said:
@Chaos said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088009) said:
@Russell said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087999) said:
@Chaos said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087997) said:
@Russell said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087994) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087968) said:
If this is true, we have to up the ante and bump our offer. Offer him 1.3 if that’s what it takes. I know it’s overs, it’s obvious that’s what it will take to get him here. We’re having no luck, so desperate times call for desperate measures.

Trouble is what we have offered him and then withdrawn was way overs in my opinion. Now people are talking about another 300,000 per year.

How far above overs do you go?

Yes, yes, as far as it takes to get him...... No! the offer we tabled is too much.

850k per year would be my offer. I don't think he is a million dollar player....Yet!


‘Yet’ that’s the key word, why not get him on board now?
It is a risk, but the positives out weigh the negatives in my opinion, sadly, we are used to dud signings already, if it goes bad we can handle it.

You mean have a waste of 1 mill for another three years. Not worth the money - too big a risk. I know we are desperate but......

I don’t think it will be a waste, we have the cash that we have to spend, we need what he can potentially offer.
It’s a risk, but Not a waste.
We’ve signed a lot players at an ‘Overs Rate’.
Latrell is 22, he will only get better over the next few years.

What if he decides that he doesn't like it at the WT's as some of the other players have done and wants to break his contract (hopefully WT's have learned by their mistakes and put a clause in which will not allow him to do that ) I'm sick of these players that want out as soon as they get sick of it for whatever reason.

But of course we don't know that he is going to sign with us- I'll be surprised if he does:angry:

And do we really want him at our club:anguished:

I do :man-raising-hand:
 
@tigerap said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088064) said:
@marzie said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088022) said:
Yep I'd up the original offer by a couple hundred thousand to get him

We 100% need him

The money we originally offered was not the reason he shied away from us

What was the reason?
 
@Newtown said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088068) said:
@tigerap said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088064) said:
@marzie said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088022) said:
Yep I'd up the original offer by a couple hundred thousand to get him

We 100% need him

The money we originally offered was not the reason he shied away from us

What was the reason?

Most of us can't handle the answer to that question every time it pops up.
 
@Russell said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088038) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1088003) said:
@Russell said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087994) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1087968) said:
If this is true, we have to up the ante and bump our offer. Offer him 1.3 if that’s what it takes. I know it’s overs, it’s obvious that’s what it will take to get him here. We’re having no luck, so desperate times call for desperate measures.

Trouble is what we have offered him and then withdrawn was way overs in my opinion. Now people are talking about another 300,000 per year.

How far above overs do you go?

Yes, yes, as far as it takes to get him...... No! the offer we tabled is too much.

850k per year would be my offer. I don't think he is a million dollar player....Yet!

We can't offer him market rate and expect to get him. We have to pay overs to sign players of note. For us he's most definitely a million dollar player. Compare him to Mbye and Reynolds, he's definitely worth more than them.

He is BB worth more than them - but we paid well over for both of them, however you just get into more deep water if you use them as a yardstick.
The yardstick should be Teddy, Turbo and maybe RTS - the question is, not how good a player LM is but is he as good a FB as the above three players.

Many would say - Yes .... personally I think he is nowhere near as good a FB as them - he is quite inexperienced to start with, can he organise a teams defences? the others do not have an attitude problem either.

He is not a million dollar FB compared to those three, so if we have to pay that type of money I would keep the offer - withdrawn.

It's not just how good he is compared to them, it's also the nature of the club's they play for. Teddy/Turbo on a million at the Roosters/Manly would need at least 1.4 million to even consider come here. Comparing the money top fullbacks are on at top clubs and money they could earn with us is comparing apples and oranges.
No he's not in the same group as those players, but if the Roosters were happy to offer LM a million to play fullback we'd have to offer 1.4 to even have a chance. So us offering a million is equivalent to other club offer maybe 700k. That's how far behind the top clubs we are...
 
I would tell him we will get his mate JAC to join him when he leaves Melbourne. Would be good for them pair, and brilliant for us, to do this we can’t offer more though
 
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