Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion

[Geo]

Can this thread finally be put where it belongs now

200 odd posts since this request for closure...I'd say members still want a say..lol

 

[Harvey]

And another circus starts again in the form of douehi

Douehi is mediocre

Ok glad I'm not the only one.

I don't think he's that bad, and wouldn't mind him for cheap as he does have potential - but he's not someone that gets me as excited as most seem to be.

Me too. Good fill in role player but meh.

I think he is a better 5/8 than fullback. Wasn’t he returning from an ACL last year?

 

[rustycage]

Don't think I've missed anything by skipping the last 100 pages of this thread have I? Seems we ended up where a lot expected we would.

 

[Russell]

So what is the trend? You are an analyst.

The trend is we are 0 from 1 in attempting to sign Latrell Mitchells.

However knowing as you do that you need at least 3 for a trend, it's just a single datapoint, not a trend.

Come on - that is seriously taking the piss. Is that the best trend you can come up with?
Mate, don’t get me wrong. You post great stuff but that response was less than convincing. I’ve said a million times that missing Mitchell is not the dominant issue. It’s losing clutch moments continuously. That is our dominant trend (in my humble opinion).
If we sign JAC tomorrow, we start to correct that negative trend.

I agree on clutch moments, if you mean clutch moments on the field.

Signing Latrell, or not, isn't a clutch moment at all. It's a very long drawn-out affair. I am not aware of any trend of Tigers offering players a million bucks and being turned down. Not even privvy to the data about how many players Tigers have ever (or recently) made offers to and how successful we have been.

Recruitment is all shady talk anyway and almost no firm data, so you can't really go building trends about recruitment.

Luke lewis. Not a million dollars but the ratio to output/potential was the same. Plus this was before million dollar contracts. Think we tried to sign him for 650,000.

Don’t be coy. You know the trend he is referring to and one such example is as above. Analyse that.

Lewis was another like Arrow - stating he would never come to the Wests Tigers.

How do you sign players like that? and how do they even come into discussion?

 

[Rugba]

Alright Latrell, you just made the list.


Would have thought Moses was on that list 🙂

 

[Russell]

Alright Latrell, you just made the list.



Would have thought Moses was on that list 🙂

Top of the list - there are no other Tankers.

 

[innsaneink]

So what is the trend? You are an analyst.

The trend is we are 0 from 1 in attempting to sign Latrell Mitchells.

However knowing as you do that you need at least 3 for a trend, it's just a single datapoint, not a trend.

Come on - that is seriously taking the piss. Is that the best trend you can come up with?
Mate, don’t get me wrong. You post great stuff but that response was less than convincing. I’ve said a million times that missing Mitchell is not the dominant issue. It’s losing clutch moments continuously. That is our dominant trend (in my humble opinion).
If we sign JAC tomorrow, we start to correct that negative trend.

I agree on clutch moments, if you mean clutch moments on the field.

Signing Latrell, or not, isn't a clutch moment at all. It's a very long drawn-out affair. I am not aware of any trend of Tigers offering players a million bucks and being turned down. Not even privvy to the data about how many players Tigers have ever (or recently) made offers to and how successful we have been.

Recruitment is all shady talk anyway and almost no firm data, so you can't really go building trends about recruitment.

By clutch moments I mean important end results - moments where it matters.
I agree we don’t understand The intricacies Of contract negotiations. Mate I know nothing on that front. But at end point - we lose. That’s my data point. End result. Interestingly, I wonder where we win in this regard? Maybe with players not seriously contested? I don’t know. But I stand by my hypothesis: when we want a good player - we lose. When we need to win - we lose.


We lose if Mitchell turns out to be the best thing since sliced bread. We win if he doesn’t.

How can you say if he turns out crap at Souths that he'd also be crap here... You can't.
A player can fit in well at one club and not another due to many factors

 

[twentyforty]

I’m satisfied with Latrell’s explanation of his reasoning for not taking the far superior Tiger’s offer. After all, he’s a good person and realised diplomacy was required. However, I still remain curious regarding the following..
“There’s goals in my life that I want to set that money brings, but then again you’ve got to set that up.”
“For the next 12 months im here I just want to keep striving for that and play some good footy.” Mitchell said

 

[trentrunciman]

Its not about the money. Sure mate. But i will only sign a 1 year deal so i can get a heaps better offer at the end of 2020 with a successful team. Otherwise why not sign long term on 600k? Idiot.

 

[Sco77y]

This is a massive loss for us and I believe will have a roll on affect re recruitment.... People can put any spin on it they like but this is highly embarrassing for WTs

I thought they handled it for the most part as best they could - tried everything to nab a superstar, nothing wrong with that. And did it very diplomatically, pulling the offer once things started looking shaky too. The only slightly embarrassing part was Hagipantelis coming out with statements that gave an impression that we thought we had him. Lesson learned I'm sure, and he'll likely be more conservative in his responses next time.

 

[Tiger5150]

Alright Latrell, you just made the list.


Needs more Mitch Moses

 

[jirskyr]

All of our own making going back to extremely poor retention decisions. If it wasn't so bad you would laugh about it. One of our junior clubs produces two outstanding fullback talents and we don't keep with either!

I don't understand this comment at all? Latrell signed on, apparently, for the opportunity to play fullback.

If we retained these mysterious outstanding fullback talents, we wouldn't have had space for Latrell?

We wouldn't need to go to market had they been retained.

Please tell me again about Papenhuyzen, it's a story I haven't heard for 5 minutes.

 

[jirskyr]

Lewis was another like Arrow - stating he would never come to the Wests Tigers.

I don't think that's right. I recall he was very close to signing on for Tigers, but Sharks made a big last pitch and Lewis was enamoured with the idea of moving to the Shire.

Any player that actually says "I'll never play for Club X" probably isn't a good enough footballer to receive offers they can't refuse.

 

[mike]

Alright Latrell, you just made the list.


That made me laugh. You should consider changing your username to Arya.

 

[jadtiger]

Alright Latrell, you just made the list.


That made me laugh. You should consider changing your username to Arya.

The list would be much much longer

 

[Tim Sheens]

Alright Latrell, you just made the list.


Pretty poor list without the other Mitchell

 

[Ponyo]

Hard to be mad at the guy, especially when you see the new photos of him training and smiling again. I don't agree with the risk taking part with a young family & all of that but I respect his decision to back himself %100

 

[twentyforty]

All of our own making going back to extremely poor retention decisions. If it wasn't so bad you would laugh about it. One of our junior clubs produces two outstanding fullback talents and we don't keep with either!

I don't understand this comment at all? Latrell signed on, apparently, for the opportunity to play fullback.

If we retained these mysterious outstanding fullback talents, we wouldn't have had space for Latrell?

We wouldn't need to go to market had they been retained.

Please tell me again about Papenhuyzen, it's a story I haven't heard for 5 minutes.

Often retaining players is not easy. But how do they do it at other clubs? AJ is a Souths junior graded with Souths.
How strong is our brand?
Souths was a foundation club made strong by having a cause greater than the sum of it’s members who protest marched in biblical style. Is that the emotion stirring historical legacy underpinning the loyalty of today’s players?
What have we got to surpass that? Anything which could pique our enthusiasm to march into battle for a heavenly cause? Perhaps a marquee signing?

 

[05wt05]

wonder if our chairman who went into bat for latrell, still thinks latrells a good level headed guy after he said he would regret signing here.

 

[twentyforty]

wonder if our chairman who went into bat for latrell, still thinks latrells a good level headed guy after he said he would regret signing here.

Or just putting out a little Pygmalion intercourse.?