Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion

[Newtown]

When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

Just my opinion but releasing Marsters and Matterson without replacements lined up was unwise. Yep, we’ve got a load of cash but have been unsuccessful spending it. Imo we would have been better off hanging on to Marsters and Matterson until we got something in return.

Let me ask you this. If we make no additional signings of quality NRL players come round 1, will you be a bit disappointed with our recruitment strategy?

NO.
Madge and Co did what had to be done not much use keeping players who don't want to be here clear the rubbish cash up and see what eventuates I would say we'll have a similar season to 2019 hopefully finishing in the 8
We are cashed up and good players tend to come on the market unexpectantly we're tracking OK we'd all like a Porsche or Ferrari
In the garage but this doesn't always happen and we stick to the tried and true until something better comes along

Yeah cool but what’s the point of having all the cash if we can’t attract quality players? I’m also sick of hearing all this Madge talk. It seems to me like he’s part of the problem, players don’t seem keen to play for him...

Your comment re Madge may be unpalatable to many WT fans but it is probably close to the truth. Why did he leave Souths shortly after they won the premiership?

 

[Goldust]

Madge seems to be a hard nose.
Similar to Bellamy,without the accolades.only certain players want that sort of treatment,and unfortunately players like Latrell think their talent is enough to be the best,which in his case it might be.what we are doing in the junior ranks is in my opinion our best option at the moment.
Landing JAC would be the absolute best outcome for the club and supporters ✌🏽

 

[tony soprano]

Yeah it’s madges fault west tigers have made 2 finals in ten years... some serious sooks on here.

 

[tiga4eva]

The sooks are probably the people like me who pour $1000s into this Club every year

 

[tony soprano]

The sooks are probably the people like me who pour $1000s into this Club every year

Well don’t if it makes you feel better.

 

[avocadoontoast]

When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

Just my opinion but releasing Marsters and Matterson without replacements lined up was unwise. Yep, we’ve got a load of cash but have been unsuccessful spending it. Imo we would have been better off hanging on to Marsters and Matterson until we got something in return.

Let me ask you this. If we make no additional signings of quality NRL players come round 1, will you be a bit disappointed with our recruitment strategy?

NO.
Madge and Co did what had to be done not much use keeping players who don't want to be here clear the rubbish cash up and see what eventuates I would say we'll have a similar season to 2019 hopefully finishing in the 8
We are cashed up and good players tend to come on the market unexpectantly we're tracking OK we'd all like a Porsche or Ferrari
In the garage but this doesn't always happen and we stick to the tried and true until something better comes along

Yeah cool but what’s the point of having all the cash if we can’t attract quality players? I’m also sick of hearing all this Madge talk. It seems to me like he’s part of the problem, players don’t seem keen to play for him...

That's the trouble people listen and believe all the media BS about Madge this is he's first full preseason with the team let see after few games how the team is performing and if a player or players are getting paid a sh** load of cash I don't want them swaning around with the FIG JAM attitude I wanting them to be working hard for each other because with most things in life you only get back what you put in

No I just don’t think Madge is some sort of messiah like you and others do. And regardless of how hard they work, if we don’t have the talent we’re not going to win anything. And we don’t have the talent.

Say what you will about the media BS about Madge but the truth of the matter is he’s signed stuff all since he got here. We have over a million in the bank and literally can’t spend it. So perhaps that perception might be true even though it hurts you to accept it.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

Just my opinion but releasing Marsters and Matterson without replacements lined up was unwise. Yep, we’ve got a load of cash but have been unsuccessful spending it. Imo we would have been better off hanging on to Marsters and Matterson until we got something in return.

Let me ask you this. If we make no additional signings of quality NRL players come round 1, will you be a bit disappointed with our recruitment strategy?

NO.
Madge and Co did what had to be done not much use keeping players who don't want to be here clear the rubbish cash up and see what eventuates I would say we'll have a similar season to 2019 hopefully finishing in the 8
We are cashed up and good players tend to come on the market unexpectantly we're tracking OK we'd all like a Porsche or Ferrari
In the garage but this doesn't always happen and we stick to the tried and true until something better comes along

Yeah cool but what’s the point of having all the cash if we can’t attract quality players? I’m also sick of hearing all this Madge talk. It seems to me like he’s part of the problem, players don’t seem keen to play for him...

That's the trouble people listen and believe all the media BS about Madge this is he's first full preseason with the team let see after few games how the team is performing and if a player or players are getting paid a sh** load of cash I don't want them swaning around with the FIG JAM attitude I wanting them to be working hard for each other because with most things in life you only get back what you put in

No I just don’t think Madge is some sort of messiah like you and others do. And regardless of how hard they work, if we don’t have the talent we’re not going to win anything. And we don’t have the talent.

Say what you will about the media BS about Madge but the truth of the matter is he’s signed stuff all since he got here. We have over a million in the bank and literally can’t spend it. So perhaps that perception might be true even though it hurts you to accept it.

I get the impression that he will not pay overs to the extent we have in the past.

 

[Newtown]

I just hope that Madge doesn't fill the remaining CAP spaces for 2020 with players who are not and never will be up to first grade standard. That would be the final insult from a club which had a huge CAP available but failed to use it to bolster their final chances for 2020 and probably 2021 as well.,

 

[Telltails]

The bulk of funds only became available when Matulino was medically retired and Matterson and Masters were released all at seasons end. We reportedly had little or no cap space until then and the best players available since - who have been on the market and interested in leaving their current clubs - have been Mitchell Arrow and JAC. He couldn't sign players with no money or cap space otherwise it would be fair to call him the messiah.

 

[Snake]

The sooks are probably the people like me who pour $1000s into this Club every year

Well don’t if it makes you feel better.

Yep never try to adress the problems that might exist, just take away your financial benefit made to the club so some how this will make you feel better ?
I have my own thoughts about Madge but let’s see how the coming season pans out and what type of footy the team will be playing this season , this to me is the most important thing moving into 2021 with lots of money to spend ...there were issues with how the team played last season in regards to structure and the lack of planned moves !

 

[tiga4eva]

The sooks are probably the people like me who pour $1000s into this Club every year

Well don’t if it makes you feel

So, when do we stop smiling and just cop missing the Semis every year? 10 years, 13, 16. I think we have a genuine right to question the lack of success

 

[bombom]

I originally followed the magpies and Balmain was my second side, so the merge was perfect for me. I have been reading posts for the last 12 months and all I can say is that for true tigers fans there are plenty putting the boot in why we are down.
Many thought Ivan was the answer but look at it now, I don't think I could find anyone to back him now. The tigers are still trying to fix the trouble he bought with him. I am more than happy with Madge, he takes no crap from anyone and doesn't want a certain style of player. What is wrong with that?
I certainly don't want LM at the club, he is talented no doubt but lazy as. I can't wait to see what happens when the dirt comes out about LM, then the rest will be glad we didn't sign him. No point paying a player that won't be allowed to play because of off field issues. Why do u think the Roosters pulled their offer as well as everyone else? I suspect the Tigers big wigs know since they are friends with uncle Nick. Have a bit of faith, things will work themselves out.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

Just my opinion but releasing Marsters and Matterson without replacements lined up was unwise. Yep, we’ve got a load of cash but have been unsuccessful spending it. Imo we would have been better off hanging on to Marsters and Matterson until we got something in return.

Let me ask you this. If we make no additional signings of quality NRL players come round 1, will you be a bit disappointed with our recruitment strategy?

NO.
Madge and Co did what had to be done not much use keeping players who don't want to be here clear the rubbish cash up and see what eventuates I would say we'll have a similar season to 2019 hopefully finishing in the 8
We are cashed up and good players tend to come on the market unexpectantly we're tracking OK we'd all like a Porsche or Ferrari
In the garage but this doesn't always happen and we stick to the tried and true until something better comes along

Yeah cool but what’s the point of having all the cash if we can’t attract quality players? I’m also sick of hearing all this Madge talk. It seems to me like he’s part of the problem, players don’t seem keen to play for him...

That's the trouble people listen and believe all the media BS about Madge this is he's first full preseason with the team let see after few games how the team is performing and if a player or players are getting paid a sh** load of cash I don't want them swaning around with the FIG JAM attitude I wanting them to be working hard for each other because with most things in life you only get back what you put in

No I just don’t think Madge is some sort of messiah like you and others do. And regardless of how hard they work, if we don’t have the talent we’re not going to win anything. And we don’t have the talent.

Say what you will about the media BS about Madge but the truth of the matter is he’s signed stuff all since he got here. We have over a million in the bank and literally can’t spend it. So perhaps that perception might be true even though it hurts you to accept it.

I get the impression that he will not pay overs to the extent we have in the past.

I don't think people believe Madge is the Messiah but something you can't take away from him is that he's a Premiership winning coach and he inherited a lot of garbage when he took the position some of it has cleared and we have cash it will get better with the contracts that expire 2020 just because you have cash doesn't mean your going to get everything you want the LM circus is unprecedented in the NRL and a lot of clubs that wanted him missed out also and as been said before Madge appears to be prudent in the players he wants and the cash he's prepared to spend what would you prefer Ivan C approach or the Magde approach

 

[avocadoontoast]

When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

Just my opinion but releasing Marsters and Matterson without replacements lined up was unwise. Yep, we’ve got a load of cash but have been unsuccessful spending it. Imo we would have been better off hanging on to Marsters and Matterson until we got something in return.

Let me ask you this. If we make no additional signings of quality NRL players come round 1, will you be a bit disappointed with our recruitment strategy?

NO.
Madge and Co did what had to be done not much use keeping players who don't want to be here clear the rubbish cash up and see what eventuates I would say we'll have a similar season to 2019 hopefully finishing in the 8
We are cashed up and good players tend to come on the market unexpectantly we're tracking OK we'd all like a Porsche or Ferrari
In the garage but this doesn't always happen and we stick to the tried and true until something better comes along

Yeah cool but what’s the point of having all the cash if we can’t attract quality players? I’m also sick of hearing all this Madge talk. It seems to me like he’s part of the problem, players don’t seem keen to play for him...

That's the trouble people listen and believe all the media BS about Madge this is he's first full preseason with the team let see after few games how the team is performing and if a player or players are getting paid a sh** load of cash I don't want them swaning around with the FIG JAM attitude I wanting them to be working hard for each other because with most things in life you only get back what you put in

No I just don’t think Madge is some sort of messiah like you and others do. And regardless of how hard they work, if we don’t have the talent we’re not going to win anything. And we don’t have the talent.

Say what you will about the media BS about Madge but the truth of the matter is he’s signed stuff all since he got here. We have over a million in the bank and literally can’t spend it. So perhaps that perception might be true even though it hurts you to accept it.

I get the impression that he will not pay overs to the extent we have in the past.

I don't think people believe Madge is the Messiah but something you can't take away from him is that he's a Premiership winning coach and he inherited a lot of garbage when he took the position some of it has cleared and we have cash it will get better with the contracts that expire 2020 just because you have cash doesn't mean your going to get everything you want the LM circus is unprecedented in the NRL and a lot of clubs that wanted him missed out also and as been said before Madge appears to be prudent in the players he wants and the cash he's prepared to spend what would you prefer Ivan C approach or the Magde approach

I think Madge can coach, but he can’t recruit. Souths success wouldn’t have occurred without Crowe and his influence. We have Madge, Pascoe and Lee. Hardly an all star team.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

I originally followed the magpies and Balmain was my second side, so the merge was perfect for me. I have been reading posts for the last 12 months and all I can say is that for true tigers fans there are plenty putting the boot in why we are down.
Many thought Ivan was the answer but look at it now, I don't think I could find anyone to back him now. The tigers are still trying to fix the trouble he bought with him. I am more than happy with Madge, he takes no crap from anyone and doesn't want a certain style of player. What is wrong with that?
I certainly don't want LM at the club, he is talented no doubt but lazy as. **I can't wait to see what happens when the dirt comes out about LM, then the rest will be glad we didn't sign him. No point paying a player that won't be allowed to play because of off field issues.** Why do u think the Roosters pulled their offer as well as everyone else? I suspect the Tigers big wigs know since they are friends with uncle Nick. Have a bit of faith, things will work themselves out.

This is a rather bold declaration, know something the rest of us don't?

We had Musgrove unable to play last season and now probably Reynolds sitting out this season for off field crap, so no we certainly can't afford another if your statement is true.

 

[twentyforty]

We know Madge likes to win and we know he’s a winner. What else do we want from him? Have some patience!

 

[tiger05premier]

I originally followed the magpies and Balmain was my second side, so the merge was perfect for me. I have been reading posts for the last 12 months and all I can say is that for true tigers fans there are plenty putting the boot in why we are down.
Many thought Ivan was the answer but look at it now, I don't think I could find anyone to back him now. The tigers are still trying to fix the trouble he bought with him. I am more than happy with Madge, he takes no crap from anyone and doesn't want a certain style of player. What is wrong with that?
I certainly don't want LM at the club, he is talented no doubt but lazy as. I can't wait to see what happens when the dirt comes out about LM, then the rest will be glad we didn't sign him. No point paying a player that won't be allowed to play because of off field issues. Why do u think the Roosters pulled their offer as well as everyone else? I suspect the Tigers big wigs know since they are friends with uncle Nick. Have a bit of faith, things will work themselves out.

You need to leave this forum

Good posts like that aren't welcome here

Lol

 

[bombom]

If u are from the Taree area then yes you would know something. Every club is distancing themselves from this signature. U don't get RESTED from club footy and then dropped from origin if you are as talented as that. What uncle Nick wants he gets and he wants no part of this. Let him sign for souffs and let it come out, good ploy uncle Nick.

 

[gallagher]

If u are from the Taree area then yes you would know something. Every club is distancing themselves from this signature. U don't get RESTED from club footy and then dropped from origin if you are as talented as that. What uncle Nick wants he gets and he wants no part of this. Let him sign for souffs and let it come out, good ploy uncle Nick.

I dont think we are distancing ourselves from his signature at all.

 

[jirskyr]

Most would have told Mitchell to get lost when it was clear that he was using Wests Tigers for his own gain. Instead Wests tigers carried on negotiating with him and lost the valuable time involved they could have used to negotiate with whatever class players were available during thisperiof of time. These class players are no longer avaiable now.

I really don't understand this post.

We did tell Mitchell to get lost. The only official word from Tigers since we withdrew our offer is (1) we would consider reopening negotiations if Latrell approached us (from Lee H); (2) nobody at Tigers has spoken to Latrell since then (from Pascoe).

There is no evidence of any further negotiation besides the original offer.

Furthermore, negotiating with one player does not in any way preclude you from negotiating with another. You reckon the recruitment team spend 24/7 speaking to just one player?

Who are "the class players" who are no longer available? By all reports we made an offer to Latrell and a late offer to Arrow, which are the only two top-tier players so far available.

You could not post more inaccurately if you tried.