Liam Fulton's horror injury revealed

[system]

The simple truth of the matter is we do not know.

Do I believe what the club has said verbatim? No

Do I believe the Telegraph "journalists"? No

Do I buy into the Machiavellian style subtext that many have been purporting? No

My personal belief is that something happened to Fulton before the warm up in relation to his injection. (I can speak from experience that a pain killing injection for the sternum does not have to puncture the lung to cause shortness of breath etc.)

We do not know what drill the forwards completed before joining the backs out on the field. A common practice is warming up the shoulders and doing some bag work in dressing facilities as extensive as the SFS. During this a injury like a popped rib cartlidge could indeed occur. Or Liams sternum may have been contacted in just the right way to further exaserbate (sp?) the injury he picked up against Manly.

It was also stated in media in the lead up to the game that Heighno and Fulton had been pretty sore and sorry.

Normally we have more of our top squad in the seats watching the game. However both State Cup squads had been given the day off after a bruising Saturday encounter.

Could the media information have been handled better? It would appear so.

Is this all part of a giant cover up? No

For mine it is an unfortunate series of events that culminated in Liam missing the game at very short notice and a scramble to find a player to replace him.

If there were any problems I have zero doubt that, as Kul suggested, there would be an investigation by the club

 

[Calvins]

Southern Tiger, perhaps if you, like the rest of us, spunked considerable money and a considerable amount of time bothering to go to games in the hopes that people are doing their job properly you might feel some pain about this whole sorry situation. But as you are reading match reports, downloading torrents or listening to 2gb on the net you don't put anything into following the team so aren't concerned when a Doctor punctures a player's lung, and causes a player who played the day before to have to be pulled from the grandstand to play in borrowed boots as if we are the Dungog under 14s. I had a massive saturday night and had I known that a doctor had again ruined another player's efforts to take the field I could have stayed home on my couch whilst we had a thousand run in against us because our best defender was off the park, through no fault of his own

 

[simonthetiger]

Just my 2 bobs worth.

Clubs lie about injuries every week.

Name players they know arent going to play,cover up injuries….etc,etc.

 

[Calvins]

Just my 2 bobs worth.

Clubs lie about injuries every week.

Name players they know arent going to play,cover up injuries….etc,etc.

OK cool .. so Fulton was never going to play

So why wasn't someone named on the bench as cover … i mean he was NEVER goign to play was he ??

 

[Eddie]

True we don't know. Although the fact that Fulton won't comment on what happened suggests it was a bit of a stuff up. I mean if he did it tackling a bag I think he and Sheens would of come out and said it. Based on the flimsy line from Sheens about him being crook all week (with no player on stand by) and the "no comment" from Fulton my opinion is there is some sweeping under the carpet being done. I could be wrong, but that is my opinion.

 

[simonthetiger]

Just my 2 bobs worth.

Clubs lie about injuries every week.

Name players they know arent going to play,cover up injuries….etc,etc.

OK cool .. so Fulton was never going to play

So why wasn't someone named on the bench as cover … i mean he was NEVER goign to play was he ??

You miss my point.

That being…...say player x has an injury and the coach doesnt want the opposition to know about it.

An illness could be used.

I know it has been done in the past.

No need to make a conspiracy out of it,but thats what you and your mothettes are about.

Shame really,cos I love coming on here and talking about the footy,but lately,yikes!!!

 

[Eddie]

True Simon. I don't really have a issue really with Sheens trying to protect his players or staff, thats a good quality to have. Keeping his cards close to his chest in regards to injuries is well within his rights. We don't have to know. Although I think his comments don't really add up.

I can understand people getting a little worked up. We had to pull someone out of the stands for a First Grade game, we got hammered, people spend their money and people want to know the truth. Some supporters want a clearer explanation as to why one of our key players named in the 17 didn't make it to the field.

 

[T-REXX]

True Simon. I don't really have a issue really with Sheens trying to protect his players or staff, thats a good quality to have. Keeping his cards close to his chest in regards to injuries is well within his rights. We don't have to know.

Although i can understand people getting a little worked up. **We had to pull someone out of the stands for a First Grade game, we got hammered,** people spend their money and people want to know the truth. His comments don't add up and some supporters are not happy.

you cant blame the loss on him not playing…

 

[Eddie]

Mr. T-Rexxxxx

Seeing you are the king of bold quoting posters and re-buttal, Where do I blame the loss on Fulton not playing??

What I am saying is some supporters are angry because we got smashed and some of the pre kick off disruptions (which surely had some effect) have not been properly explained. The club doesn't have to let us know, but I can understand people being frustrated with the conflicting stories regarding Fulton. I can understand people being frustrated that in a First Grade match he had a to pull a player out of the stands with borrowed boots when Sheens said Fulton had been crook all week (then why would you not have a player on stand by?/).

 

[simonthetiger]

True Simon. I don't really have a issue really with Sheens trying to protect his players or staff, thats a good quality to have. Keeping his cards close to his chest in regards to injuries is well within his rights. We don't have to know. Although I think his comments don't really add up.

I can understand people getting a little worked up. We had to pull someone out of the stands for a First Grade game, we got hammered, people spend their money and people want to know the truth. Some supporters want a clearer explanation as to why one of our key players named in the 17 didn't make it to the field.

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Cant argue with any of that…...nice to see some sense about the situation.

PS.....there is no doubt we missed Liam,but on a positive, we got to see more of Fifita and a cameo from Shinrack,and both proved they are up for first grade.

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Jeez, how many people are believing the Tele, unbelievable, and has been said before the Tele did not name any individual therefore are not liable to anything…however Calvins and a few others who have named the doctor and insinuated malpractice could be, and as Calvins was actually the first to infer malpractice and also name the individual should be very careful about what he is inferring.

 

[fergiefurr]

Just my 2 bobs worth.

Clubs lie about injuries every week.

Name players they know arent going to play,cover up injuries….etc,etc.

OK cool .. so Fulton was never going to play

So why wasn't someone named on the bench as cover … i mean he was NEVER goign to play was he ??

in the past when a player has been in doubt we have had stand bys do the full warm up, heck against parra last year at the sfs we had 3 (Laurie, A.Shirnack and Collis) warm up. in round 1 benji was said to be in some doubt and taumata was warming up.

the fact that we had NO ONE warming up to me says something went seriously wrong

 

[The_Tooth]

Unbelievable, some people. SouthernTiger….. :laughing: Wake up and use some common sense to form your own judgement. You don't have to believe the Tele, the club or Calvins ( Well done mate for holding your opinion when everyone wanted to shoot us down - I wondered about the calf but in the most part you raised an important issue imo). Read between the lines. It doesn't and never did add up.

Anyone who thinks this is only a minor issue hasn't considered just how bad it could be. Imagine if it was Farah or Benji. Back page news in every paper I reckon. Imgaine if it was semi final time.

I don't know how many needles go wrong or more-so how many go right with Kuah, but without all the knowledge I'm concerned. I'm concerned about future needles to our players, but more importantly I'm concerned with the lies. Why lie? Thats still the question. Imo Sheens and the club are also concerned, so much so that they don't want the truth known.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

True Simon. I don't really have a issue really with Sheens trying to protect his players or staff, thats a good quality to have. Keeping his cards close to his chest in regards to injuries is well within his rights. We don't have to know. Although I think his comments don't really add up.

I can understand people getting a little worked up. We had to pull someone out of the stands for a First Grade game, we got hammered, people spend their money and people want to know the truth. Some supporters want a clearer explanation as to why one of our key players named in the 17 didn't make it to the field.

Couldn't have said it better myself Eddie.

I have not once blamed the doctor or believed the Telegraph, all I did was question the club's response that was given on Sunday for Fulton not playing and it simply doesn't add up. That is all. Am I being unreasonable? I don't think so.

Like Eddie, I would prefer not to be lied to about why one of our key players didn't play, and why he will also not play this weekend.

Also agree with Simon in that we got to see Jason Shirnack and we know he is up to it if we get some injuries in the future. We have plenty of talented kids in the reserves, so every first grader should be under pressure to keep their spot.

 

[cnx_tigers]

There's only one person who administers needles in a footy club. That being the Doctor.

You blokes saying "the TELE didn't name him" have got to be joking stating there's no chance of a legal issue.

Look up the word 'inference'.

Geez.

I hope he sues them if it's not true.

 

[system]

I will do you a deal. For a bit of a lark I will go and look up the word inference whilst you go and look up the standards of proof required to pursue an action for defamation of character

 

[hammertime]

The link to the daily telegraph story seems to be broken now. The plot thickens… or, probably just a dodgy link...

 

[innsaneink]

I doubt there will be a response from the club to the article

Yet they (cuzzo) were very quick to point out the error of the media a week or two ago of a couple of players (forget who) returning early from injury.

We all know they BS….who could forget Sheens'... "We bought him as a utility" re: Morris at the back end of last year....they treat us like fools

The point many are missing is WHY the BS now....looks to be covering incompetence - someone forgot an 18th man....made sure this week though huh...how many we got on the bench...six or seven? :laughing:

 

[Yossarian]

The link to the daily telegraph story seems to be broken now. The plot thickens… or, probably just a dodgy link...

Here it is - just above an absorbing story about Trent Waterhouse's greyhound…

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[tigeress]

Sounds like a bad one no matter what way you look at it ! We all hope he recovers quickly as -the team needs him !