Live game thread v Knights, *spoilers*

That game highlight why we always struggle against Newcastle.

They always come to play.

They expect to beat us.

They play tough.

They play for 80 minutes.

We score and easy try or gain a bit of advantage and then clock off. Momentum changes and then its a 50% if we can hold on.

Add the refs liking the battlers thing the Knight have going.

After what happened against the Dogs its safe to say this team has a mentality problem. Going into 2019 we need to learn how to play to a more consistent level week after week no matter who the opposition is.
 
I was at the game last night, and I have seen a few knights games this year against other teams like the Gold Coast and bulldogs, and I am prepared to say that we defineitely are not a top 8 side with this squad, and if we come 9th with the cattle we have then we have done well. Especially when you factor in the quality of teams we have beaten. Gus said last night on coverage n every team coming first on the ladder this year.

Still not happy that we cannot step it up in critical games, but maybe my expectation is way too high and we have already over achieved for 2018 as it is.
 
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A good win in the end.
Some poor refereeing, especially missing forward passes and the usual ‘nothing’ penalties.
We were better than the final score indicated … and a long way off the refs looking at us favourably.

Geez I'm sick of the whinging about the ref bias last night! If anything Newcastle fans should be spewing. As I said above we received four penalties right in front of the sticks for eight points last night - the last one virtually handed us the game! That is a significant advantage for any team! I guess our supporters will always see our team as being the disadvantaged victims of ref bias, no matter how good we have it.
 
Penalties ended up pretty even. They got smacked in the first half - however when you kick out on the full twice from the kickoff that leaves no room for discretion - and we got smacked in the second half. Cant complain but makes it easier when you win.
 
Ivan said in the press conference that we have received the least 2nd half penalties of any team in the Comp. We often make enough of our own issues in games, but we are also not a team that receives any help.
 
Really hard game to get a good read on , obviously we were carrying 2 players with Marshall and Thompson not 100 % and the first 20 was pretty good

2nd twenty was pretty good , 3rd twenty was tripe and the last 20 OK

I tell Brooks he need to run more , I think he may have overdone it last night

All I will say is this , I'm glad Pearce wasn't fit for the entire 80 minutes

Win is a win though , you don't need to draw a picture , take the two points and move on , save the better performance for a bigger game

Like next week , Canberra in Canberra , wouldn't we love to well and truly bury that hoodoo
 
So many times I have screamed at our own players (on tv) to get off the guy that I thought we deserved double penalties we received against us. HRH is the main offender.
 
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A good win in the end.
Some poor refereeing, especially missing forward passes and the usual ‘nothing’ penalties.
We were better than the final score indicated … and a long way off the refs looking at us favourably.

Geez I'm sick of the whinging about the ref bias last night! If anything Newcastle fans should be spewing. As I said above we received four penalties right in front of the sticks for eight points last night - the last one virtually handed us the game! That is a significant advantage for any team! I guess our supporters will always see our team as being the disadvantaged victims of ref bias, no matter how good we have it.

It's really not that simple.

The penalty count can be even, we could get a few penalties right in front, but how many didn't they blow. How many tries didn't we score because they kept giving away the penalty to save themselves.

There is a lot more to it and I'm with everyone else we get no favours at all!
 
Finishes like this explain why I am due for a third bout of open heart surgery in about 12 months time.

I hate that I love this club.
 
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A good win in the end.
Some poor refereeing, especially missing forward passes and the usual ‘nothing’ penalties.
We were better than the final score indicated … and a long way off the refs looking at us favourably.

Geez I'm sick of the whinging about the ref bias last night! If anything Newcastle fans should be spewing. As I said above we received four penalties right in front of the sticks for eight points last night - the last one virtually handed us the game! That is a significant advantage for any team! I guess our supporters will always see our team as being the disadvantaged victims of ref bias, no matter how good we have it.

It's really not that simple.

The penalty count can be even, we could get a few penalties right in front, but how many didn't they blow. How many tries didn't we score because they kept giving away the penalty to save themselves.

There is a lot more to it and I'm with everyone else we get no favours at all!

I couldn't watch live so was able to watch a reply already knowing the score. With virtually no emotional investment, I agree that Newcastle were only in the game due to refereeing. The leg-ups they got in the ruck WERE really questionable IMO, and certainly not consistent with the rest of the game.
 
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A good win in the end.
Some poor refereeing, especially missing forward passes and the usual ‘nothing’ penalties.
We were better than the final score indicated … and a long way off the refs looking at us favourably.

Geez I'm sick of the whinging about the ref bias last night! If anything Newcastle fans should be spewing. As I said above we received four penalties right in front of the sticks for eight points last night - the last one virtually handed us the game! That is a significant advantage for any team! I guess our supporters will always see our team as being the disadvantaged victims of ref bias, no matter how good we have it.

It's really not that simple.

The penalty count can be even, we could get a few penalties right in front, but how many didn't they blow. How many tries didn't we score because they kept giving away the penalty to save themselves.

There is a lot more to it and I'm with everyone else we get no favours at all!

I couldn't watch live so was able to watch a reply already knowing the score. With virtually no emotional investment, I agree that Newcastle were only in the game due to refereeing. The leg-ups they got in the ruck WERE really questionable IMO, and certainly not consistent with the rest of the game.

Yep, its not something you can point to a stat and say this and that. Its the general feel of the game.

The refs favoured the Knights.
 
Interesting comment by Ivan about getting less second half penalties than any other team. I'd argue that penalties seem to go the way of the team with momentum, the team that is dominating, and this adds to them keeping the momentum. If we aren't getting second half penalties very often, then it's probably because we are often losing the domination battle in the second half of a lot of our games. Just a thought… it opposes the other one I have, that the NRL have their favourites and most refs blatantly cane us!
 
Our 6 points from penalty e were all legitimate penalties….
They scored 2 tries which really should have been pulled up one mautautia offside where Benji passed to him and the other a blatant forward pass
 

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