Liverpool Home Ground?

[mike]

I was all for Bankwest but the players and the club see it nothing more than a money grab. Whats more playing our home games against the Eels there is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen this club do.

As for Liverpool its big no for me.

As someone from the Balmain side of things i see only way forward and thats a total redevelopment of Campbelltown into our own 20k seat super stadium.

Allowances will have to be made with our branding and jersey design to appease the Balmain side of things but thats easy to sort out. Easy to sort out with strong off field leadership.

We look to have stability and strength in our leadership at the moment. Id trust these guys to transition to Campbelltown and do it in a way that has the support of both sides of the merger.

Well said....spoken like a true Patriot.
And even more so that you are from "the Balmain side of things".
It would be totally irresponsible of Our club to at least not give very serious consideration to making the rapidly growing City Of Campbelltown Wests Tigers new
and permanent home.
There must be many thousands of Our supporters 'already' in that area, and with a bit of promotion I reckon We would have more than enough support from local businesses and fans generally in next to no time at all to fully support Our Club financially.
If We want Wests Tigers to be the next 'powerhouse' NRL club....We have to look to the future Ladies and Gentleman.
I haven't been to Leichardt Oval since the 70's, but from many reports on here it's totally well past it's use by date, and the only ones that would now feel comfortable being there are those Balmain supporters that have been going there for many years and are used to walking the so called Kokoda Track.
Get with the future folks....stop looking back or we will never get anywhere.

I don't think CSS is the answer either, it is also very out dated.

And we struggle to fill it with people from the area, once Tommy stopped putting signs up on the surrounding hills encouraging locals to go.

 

[getagrip]

I was all for Bankwest but the players and the club see it nothing more than a money grab. Whats more playing our home games against the Eels there is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen this club do.

As for Liverpool its big no for me.

As someone from the Balmain side of things i see only way forward and thats a total redevelopment of Campbelltown into our own 20k seat super stadium.

Allowances will have to be made with our branding and jersey design to appease the Balmain side of things but thats easy to sort out. Easy to sort out with strong off field leadership.

We look to have stability and strength in our leadership at the moment. Id trust these guys to transition to Campbelltown and do it in a way that has the support of both sides of the merger.

Well said....spoken like a true Patriot.
And even more so that you are from "the Balmain side of things".
It would be totally irresponsible of Our club to at least not give very serious consideration to making the rapidly growing City Of Campbelltown Wests Tigers new
and permanent home.
There must be many thousands of Our supporters 'already' in that area, and with a bit of promotion I reckon We would have more than enough support from local businesses and fans generally in next to no time at all to fully support Our Club financially.
If We want Wests Tigers to be the next 'powerhouse' NRL club....We have to look to the future Ladies and Gentleman.
I haven't been to Leichardt Oval since the 70's, but from many reports on here it's totally well past it's use by date, and the only ones that would now feel comfortable being there are those Balmain supporters that have been going there for many years and are used to walking the so called Kokoda Track.
Get with the future folks....stop looking back or we will never get anywhere.

You let yourself down with your last, rather ill-informed baseless paragraph. People don't go to Leichhardt because they want to be inconvenienced. You should try going there again and form your own opinion. You might be surprised.

 

[cochise]

I was all for Bankwest but the players and the club see it nothing more than a money grab. Whats more playing our home games against the Eels there is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen this club do.

As for Liverpool its big no for me.

As someone from the Balmain side of things i see only way forward and thats a total redevelopment of Campbelltown into our own 20k seat super stadium.

Allowances will have to be made with our branding and jersey design to appease the Balmain side of things but thats easy to sort out. Easy to sort out with strong off field leadership.

We look to have stability and strength in our leadership at the moment. Id trust these guys to transition to Campbelltown and do it in a way that has the support of both sides of the merger.

Well said....spoken like a true Patriot.
And even more so that you are from "the Balmain side of things".
It would be totally irresponsible of Our club to at least not give very serious consideration to making the rapidly growing City Of Campbelltown Wests Tigers new
and permanent home.
There must be many thousands of Our supporters 'already' in that area, and with a bit of promotion I reckon We would have more than enough support from local businesses and fans generally in next to no time at all to fully support Our Club financially.
If We want Wests Tigers to be the next 'powerhouse' NRL club....We have to look to the future Ladies and Gentleman.
I haven't been to Leichardt Oval since the 70's, but from many reports on here it's totally well past it's use by date, and the only ones that would now feel comfortable being there are those Balmain supporters that have been going there for many years and are used to walking the so called Kokoda Track.
Get with the future folks....stop looking back or we will never get anywhere.

You let yourself down with your last, rather ill-informed baseless paragraph. People don't go to Leichhardt because they want to be inconvenienced. You should try going there again and form your own opinion. You might be surprised.

I love LO, but the sun is starting to set on its place in the NRL.

 

[balmain boy]

What actual reason is there to do any of this? It's all just hot air. It's not even election time. The stadiums don't need it. Are there really about to knock down the hill at Kogarah to put in a grandtand, just so that the Dragons can have a few less fans that get wet when it rains during the 6 home games a year? What an incredible waste. There will be no increase in games being played at these stadiums, and only provide a sloight increase in revenue to a handful of tenants. No greater good for the community.

Time for the government to actually look at how to rebuild the economy outside of construction - the one industry that hasn't been hampered at all by the pandemic. There's cranes everywhere with buildings, roads, tunnels, airports, metro lines being built all across the city. Construction and associated industries does not need further help. Hospitality, tourism, professional services and just trying to save the CBD from becoming a ghost town needs to be the priority.

 

[mike]

What actual reason is there to do any of this? It's all just hot air. It's not even election time. The stadiums don't need it. Are there really about to knock down the hill at Kogarah to put in a grandtand, just so that the Dragons can have a few less fans that get wet when it rains during the 6 home games a year? What an incredible waste. There will be no increase in games being played at these stadiums, and only provide a sloight increase in revenue to a handful of tenants. No greater good for the community.

Time for the government to actually look at how to rebuild the economy outside of construction - the one industry that hasn't been hampered at all by the pandemic. There's cranes everywhere with buildings, roads, tunnels, airports, metro lines being built all across the city. Construction and associated industries does not need further help. Hospitality, tourism, professional services and just trying to save the CBD from becoming a ghost town needs to be the priority.

As far as I am concerned the concept of a CBD is dead. COVID19 has done in 6 months what decades of successive governments have tried and failed to achieve, decentralisation.

 

[balmain boy]

What actual reason is there to do any of this? It's all just hot air. It's not even election time. The stadiums don't need it. Are there really about to knock down the hill at Kogarah to put in a grandtand, just so that the Dragons can have a few less fans that get wet when it rains during the 6 home games a year? What an incredible waste. There will be no increase in games being played at these stadiums, and only provide a sloight increase in revenue to a handful of tenants. No greater good for the community.

Time for the government to actually look at how to rebuild the economy outside of construction - the one industry that hasn't been hampered at all by the pandemic. There's cranes everywhere with buildings, roads, tunnels, airports, metro lines being built all across the city. Construction and associated industries does not need further help. Hospitality, tourism, professional services and just trying to save the CBD from becoming a ghost town needs to be the priority.

As far as I am concerned the concept of a CBD is dead. COVID19 has done in 6 months what decades of successive governments have tried and failed to achieve, decentralisation.

It's definitely changed the way we work, but the city of sydney has too much invested for it to become obsolete overnight. Working from home isn't all that great either, but if people only work a few days in the city and a few days at home what happens to the expensive office space? Public transport will be de-funded. No easy answer to a problem nobody anticipated a year ago.

 

[mike]

What actual reason is there to do any of this? It's all just hot air. It's not even election time. The stadiums don't need it. Are there really about to knock down the hill at Kogarah to put in a grandtand, just so that the Dragons can have a few less fans that get wet when it rains during the 6 home games a year? What an incredible waste. There will be no increase in games being played at these stadiums, and only provide a sloight increase in revenue to a handful of tenants. No greater good for the community.

Time for the government to actually look at how to rebuild the economy outside of construction - the one industry that hasn't been hampered at all by the pandemic. There's cranes everywhere with buildings, roads, tunnels, airports, metro lines being built all across the city. Construction and associated industries does not need further help. Hospitality, tourism, professional services and just trying to save the CBD from becoming a ghost town needs to be the priority.

As far as I am concerned the concept of a CBD is dead. COVID19 has done in 6 months what decades of successive governments have tried and failed to achieve, decentralisation.

It's definitely changed the way we work, but the city of sydney has too much invested for it to become obsolete overnight. Working from home isn't all that great either, but if people only work a few days in the city and a few days at home what happens to the expensive office space? Public transport will be de-funded. No easy answer to a problem nobody anticipated a year ago.

And they way we play. Missus and I have been in the CBD a few times recently on Friday and Saturday night and it is basically dead. I suspect people have found local haunts to do the same thing they used to do in the CBD.

 

[balmain boy]

What actual reason is there to do any of this? It's all just hot air. It's not even election time. The stadiums don't need it. Are there really about to knock down the hill at Kogarah to put in a grandtand, just so that the Dragons can have a few less fans that get wet when it rains during the 6 home games a year? What an incredible waste. There will be no increase in games being played at these stadiums, and only provide a sloight increase in revenue to a handful of tenants. No greater good for the community.

Time for the government to actually look at how to rebuild the economy outside of construction - the one industry that hasn't been hampered at all by the pandemic. There's cranes everywhere with buildings, roads, tunnels, airports, metro lines being built all across the city. Construction and associated industries does not need further help. Hospitality, tourism, professional services and just trying to save the CBD from becoming a ghost town needs to be the priority.

As far as I am concerned the concept of a CBD is dead. COVID19 has done in 6 months what decades of successive governments have tried and failed to achieve, decentralisation.

It's definitely changed the way we work, but the city of sydney has too much invested for it to become obsolete overnight. Working from home isn't all that great either, but if people only work a few days in the city and a few days at home what happens to the expensive office space? Public transport will be de-funded. No easy answer to a problem nobody anticipated a year ago.

And they way we play. Missus and I have been in the CBD a few times recently on Friday and Saturday night and it is basically dead. I suspect people have found local haunts to do the same thing they used to do in the CBD.

That will change in due course. Only 15-20% of the CBD working in there at the moment and that will rise. The problem with local haunts is neighbours complain about noise in residential areas etc. The city has no such complaints, always has been bars and clubs and people know that when moving to the area.

The new SFS was planning to draw thousands of people from work in the CBD on a friday night, and needs those people to be relevant. It's an appalling waste of money, building an oversized stadium that simply isn't required and that nobody is in favour of. It's too expensive to build small stadiums in Australia, we're one of the most expensive countries in the world and this is a consequence of that. What reason is there to spend 400 million on a stadium in Liverpool, for 10-20 matches a year to be played there? Why spend 50 million on brookie when it won't increase capacity?

 

[mike]

What actual reason is there to do any of this? It's all just hot air. It's not even election time. The stadiums don't need it. Are there really about to knock down the hill at Kogarah to put in a grandtand, just so that the Dragons can have a few less fans that get wet when it rains during the 6 home games a year? What an incredible waste. There will be no increase in games being played at these stadiums, and only provide a sloight increase in revenue to a handful of tenants. No greater good for the community.

Time for the government to actually look at how to rebuild the economy outside of construction - the one industry that hasn't been hampered at all by the pandemic. There's cranes everywhere with buildings, roads, tunnels, airports, metro lines being built all across the city. Construction and associated industries does not need further help. Hospitality, tourism, professional services and just trying to save the CBD from becoming a ghost town needs to be the priority.

As far as I am concerned the concept of a CBD is dead. COVID19 has done in 6 months what decades of successive governments have tried and failed to achieve, decentralisation.

It's definitely changed the way we work, but the city of sydney has too much invested for it to become obsolete overnight. Working from home isn't all that great either, but if people only work a few days in the city and a few days at home what happens to the expensive office space? Public transport will be de-funded. No easy answer to a problem nobody anticipated a year ago.

And they way we play. Missus and I have been in the CBD a few times recently on Friday and Saturday night and it is basically dead. I suspect people have found local haunts to do the same thing they used to do in the CBD.

That will change in due course. Only 15-20% of the CBD working in there at the moment and that will rise. The problem with local haunts is neighbours complain about noise in residential areas etc. The city has no such complaints, always has been bars and clubs and people know that when moving to the area.

The new SFS was planning to draw thousands of people from work in the CBD on a friday night, and needs those people to be relevant. It's an appalling waste of money, building an oversized stadium that simply isn't required and that nobody is in favour of. It's too expensive to build small stadiums in Australia, we're one of the most expensive countries in the world and this is a consequence of that. What reason is there to spend 400 million on a stadium in Liverpool, for 10-20 matches a year to be played there? Why spend 50 million on brookie when it won't increase capacity?

I hope it doesn’t change. Why go back? There is a new paradigm that works much better.

As for stadiums it’s a matter of marketing and having a great game day experience. Currently most game day experiences are pretty lame. That’s why everyone just basically piles in at the last minute before the game. 45K stadium is great and future proofs the site. It allows for growth over a long period of time. In future instead of having to rebuild they can just refurbish.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

What actual reason is there to do any of this? It's all just hot air. It's not even election time. The stadiums don't need it. Are there really about to knock down the hill at Kogarah to put in a grandtand, just so that the Dragons can have a few less fans that get wet when it rains during the 6 home games a year? What an incredible waste. There will be no increase in games being played at these stadiums, and only provide a sloight increase in revenue to a handful of tenants. No greater good for the community.

Time for the government to actually look at how to rebuild the economy outside of construction - the one industry that hasn't been hampered at all by the pandemic. There's cranes everywhere with buildings, roads, tunnels, airports, metro lines being built all across the city. Construction and associated industries does not need further help. Hospitality, tourism, professional services and just trying to save the CBD from becoming a ghost town needs to be the priority.

As far as I am concerned the concept of a CBD is dead. COVID19 has done in 6 months what decades of successive governments have tried and failed to achieve, decentralisation.

It's definitely changed the way we work, but the city of sydney has too much invested for it to become obsolete overnight. Working from home isn't all that great either, but if people only work a few days in the city and a few days at home what happens to the expensive office space? Public transport will be de-funded. No easy answer to a problem nobody anticipated a year ago.

It won’t be obsolete, just not a CBD as we know it . They’ve already rolled back the ridiculous lock out laws , and hopefully they will realise the city should be treated as a play to explore and want to go . Not get up at 5 to be home by 11 after your boss forces you to have after work drinks at the bar underneath your building .
Networking and schmoozing will be pretty tough moving forward lol

 

[TigerTownSFS]

I would like to see a Wests Tigers fan survey with detail on where they are located. My gut is that the vast number of GenX and older fans live within 20km of the CBD (old west’s Ashfield and Balmain fans) and they would represent a large % (maybe 75%) of total fan base. West’s only moved to Campbelltown in the mid 80s and they didn’t really have any success as a club whilst out there so not sure there was a large growth in West’s fans after that point. West’s tigers have actually been based at Concord for longer than West’s magpies were based at Campbelltown at this point. Just my gut instinct and not intending to offend but it would be fascinating to see actual data on this

 

[cochise]

I would like to see a Wests Tigers fan survey with detail on where they are located. My gut is that the vast number of GenX and older fans live within 20km of the CBD (old west’s Ashfield and Balmain fans) and they would represent a large % (maybe 75%) of total fan base. West’s only moved to Campbelltown in the mid 80s and they didn’t really have any success as a club whilst out there so not sure there was a large growth in West’s fans after that point. West’s tigers have actually been based at Concord for longer than West’s magpies were based at Campbelltown at this point. Just my gut instinct and not intending to offend but it would be fascinating to see actual data on this

I honestly think you would be surprised, with the changing demographics of the inner west I think that would be way off. I would doubt that 75% of our fan base even live in Sydney.

 

[hank37w]

Anyone up for a survey on this forum to get an idea where everyone is?

 

[cochise]

Anyone up for a survey on this forum to get an idea where everyone is?

We did a survey about home ground preferences in the past.

 

[Snake]

Anyone up for a survey on this forum to get an idea where everyone is?

We did a survey about home ground preferences in the past.

The club know exactly we’re all the members are situated with the press if a button ..

 

[cochise]

Anyone up for a survey on this forum to get an idea where everyone is?

We did a survey about home ground preferences in the past.

The club know exactly we’re all the members are situated with the press if a button ..

Yeah they do, they have some much data that they analyse, they aren't aware of the amount of people who would like one ground though.

 

[mike]

I would like to see a Wests Tigers fan survey with detail on where they are located. My gut is that the vast number of GenX and older fans live within 20km of the CBD (old west’s Ashfield and Balmain fans) and they would represent a large % (maybe 75%) of total fan base. West’s only moved to Campbelltown in the mid 80s and they didn’t really have any success as a club whilst out there so not sure there was a large growth in West’s fans after that point. West’s tigers have actually been based at Concord for longer than West’s magpies were based at Campbelltown at this point. Just my gut instinct and not intending to offend but it would be fascinating to see actual data on this

Yes a survey would be great. Can’t be current members though as they would already know their location. Instead it should be the fans who we are trying to convert to paying members. Like you, I suspect they are within 20Km of the CBD but without data we don’t know.

 

[The_Patriot]

I was all for Bankwest but the players and the club see it nothing more than a money grab. Whats more playing our home games against the Eels there is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen this club do.

As for Liverpool its big no for me.

As someone from the Balmain side of things i see only way forward and thats a total redevelopment of Campbelltown into our own 20k seat super stadium.

Allowances will have to be made with our branding and jersey design to appease the Balmain side of things but thats easy to sort out. Easy to sort out with strong off field leadership.

We look to have stability and strength in our leadership at the moment. Id trust these guys to transition to Campbelltown and do it in a way that has the support of both sides of the merger.

Well said....spoken like a true Patriot.
And even more so that you are from "the Balmain side of things".
It would be totally irresponsible of Our club to at least not give very serious consideration to making the rapidly growing City Of Campbelltown Wests Tigers new
and permanent home.
There must be many thousands of Our supporters 'already' in that area, and with a bit of promotion I reckon We would have more than enough support from local businesses and fans generally in next to no time at all to fully support Our Club financially.
If We want Wests Tigers to be the next 'powerhouse' NRL club....We have to look to the future Ladies and Gentleman.
I haven't been to Leichardt Oval since the 70's, but from many reports on here it's totally well past it's use by date, and the only ones that would now feel comfortable being there are those Balmain supporters that have been going there for many years and are used to walking the so called Kokoda Track.
Get with the future folks....stop looking back or we will never get anywhere.

Dont really see the need to bring your thoughts on Leichhardt Oval into. It really has nothing to do with any of that kind of thing.

 

[diedpretty]

If this gets up we should just move to ANZ as we will have it all to ourselves. Souffs will go to SFS, Canterbury to Liverpool and Saints to Kogarah. Drop down curtains on the top tiers will give us a 45k stadium which according to some on here we will be filling in no time at all.