Lost opportunity in Macarthur

@the_patriot said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297865) said:
Good on South's for identifying and activating a strategic plan of theirs to gain a foothold in to the Campbelltown area. That have had this strategy for a few years now

It's a shame our club hasn't been more proactive in heading this off. It's one of they few failures that I hold the current administration responsible for. A lot of people blame Pascoe and the like for everything including global warming but this right here is a failure of the administration. One of the few they are actually responsible for

South's did this to the Roosters many years ago and stole a big chunk of their junior base. This time they are after 'our' fanbase and rookies and are trying to claim to an area that is rightfully ours.

For the die hard Magpie fans who never understood the hate Balmain supporters had for South Sydney hopefully now you can see who they are as a club and how they operate.

Smart & ruthless?
Maybe we should take a leaf

Maybe Sydney FC need a chum?
 
I thought at some stage there was talk about us having some sort of an understanding or doing a deal with the new Macarthur FC franchise, which I had hoped may have come about.

Souffs have been trying to develop an influence in the area in recent times and I would have thought we would have seen that coming and done something about it rather than pack up and desert the area altogether without a wimper.

It's pretty obvious that this club sees no future in the South West which is very disappointing and by the way I hate Souffs.
 
@hank37w said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297879) said:
I thought at some stage there was talk about us having some sort of an understanding or doing a deal with the new Macarthur FC franchise, which I had hoped may have come about.

Souffs have been trying to develop an influence in the area in recent times and I would have thought we would have seen that coming and done something about it rather than pack up and desert the area altogether without a wimper.

It's pretty obvious that this club sees no future in the South West which is very disappointing and by the way I hate Souffs.

Yes, I seem to recall something about it also.
Maybe we just lost the race?
I also recall Souths playing a trial there last year and the response by our club was something along the lines of they can come but it won’t matter because Campbelltown stadium is one of our homes and we are the big team in town
 
@red88_tiger said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297881) said:
Maybe we are looking to follow the roosters footprint 🤔

If that involves winning a few premierships, then I wouldn't mind going along for that ride, but if it involves completely abandoning a huge growth area and all the junior talent that comes with it, then I'm not quite so keen.
 
@hank37w said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297888) said:
@red88_tiger said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297881) said:
Maybe we are looking to follow the roosters footprint ?

If that involves winning a few premierships, then I wouldn't mind going along for that ride, but if it involves completely abandoning a huge growth area and all the junior talent that comes with it, then I'm not quite so keen.

The junior league is called the Wests Tigers Macarthur Junior Rugby League?
 
I appreciate that but what are we actually doing about maintaining a presence in that junior area?
 
@frullens said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297852) said:
I'm supportive of where managementarea heading in terms of the football operations.

But, they have really failed to outline a strategic direction for the club, or footprint and our identity.

If we have given up on Macarthur, serious questions need to be asked in the board. I get that we are controlled by Ashfield and that corporate dollar is located inner city.

But, looking long term, inner city gentrifies, we get less and less juniors. Meanwhile, per finger such as Macarthur, have growing populations which NRLs traditional demographic.

If A League can put together a business case to have a fulltime club based there and Souths see it as a strategic area.

I live in Melbourne, and all the AFL clubs are building a presence in the outer suburbs because thats where the supporters are. Hawthorn have moved to Dingkey, Melbourne to casey, bombers to tullamarine, etc

We already have a presence there, we should be leveraging our strategic advantage

problem with south West is plenty of peoole who live in area support other teams hence souths and membership numbers
 
@hank37w said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297893) said:
I appreciate that but what are we actually doing about maintaining a presence in that junior area?

You could ask via 'ask the boss' videos. I'm sure he'll answer.
 
@needaname said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297886) said:
@hank37w said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297879) said:
I thought at some stage there was talk about us having some sort of an understanding or doing a deal with the new Macarthur FC franchise, which I had hoped may have come about.

Souffs have been trying to develop an influence in the area in recent times and I would have thought we would have seen that coming and done something about it rather than pack up and desert the area altogether without a wimper.

It's pretty obvious that this club sees no future in the South West which is very disappointing and by the way I hate Souffs.

Yes, I seem to recall something about it also.
Maybe we just lost the race?
I also recall Souths playing a trial there last year and the response by our club was something along the lines of they can come but it won’t matter because Campbelltown stadium is one of our homes and we are the big team in town

I recall south's selling memberships at Wests leagues Cambo after holding a trial/s there one year maybe a decade back... They've had their eye on the area a. Long time
 
Looks pretty deliberate.

Wests Ashfield wouldn't stand by and allow it to happen if it's on their dime.

Honestly reckon they want to return to being a inner city team (rightly or wrongly.) Ashfield wants to be closer to the ancestral home and it also fits in with the Leichhardt narrative.

A mate of mine has said the Campbelltown juniors is a shambles. There maybe people with differing opinions and I'd like to hear from them but his partners son plays in the Campbelltown comp and the quality he reckons is dreadful. Maybe that's why WT might be stepping back. An opportunity to "come home" for the Magpies, solidify the inner west and keep local.

Again, this is all supposition from what has happened and doesn't reflect my view. I think we should try to maintain our MacArthur presence. Wests have been in the area for nearly thirty years.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297899) said:
Looks pretty deliberate.

Wests Ashfield wouldn't stand by and allow it to happen if it's on their dime.

Honestly reckon they want to return to being a inner city team (rightly or wrongly.) Ashfield wants to be closer to the ancestral home and it also fits in with the Leichhardt narrative.

A mate of mine has said the Campbelltown juniors is a shambles. There maybe people with differing opinions and I'd like to hear from them but his partners son plays in the Campbelltown comp and the quality he reckons is dreadful. Maybe that's why WT might be stepping back. An opportunity to "come home" for the Magpies, solidify the inner west and keep local.

Again, this is all supposition from what has happened and doesn't reflect my view. I think we should try to maintain our MacArthur presence. Wests have been in the area for nearly thirty years.

Honestly, Wests Ashfield are not heavily involved in decision making at the club. The Wests Tigers really runs as its own entity for all intends and purposes.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297899) said:
Looks pretty deliberate.

Wests Ashfield wouldn't stand by and allow it to happen if it's on their dime.

Honestly reckon they want to return to being a inner city team (rightly or wrongly.) Ashfield wants to be closer to the ancestral home and it also fits in with the Leichhardt narrative.

A mate of mine has said the Campbelltown juniors is a shambles. There maybe people with differing opinions and I'd like to hear from them but his partners son plays in the Campbelltown comp and the quality he reckons is dreadful. Maybe that's why WT might be stepping back. An opportunity to "come home" for the Magpies, solidify the inner west and keep local.

Again, this is all supposition from what has happened and doesn't reflect my view. I think we should try to maintain our MacArthur presence. Wests have been in the area for nearly thirty years.

Plenty of talent in the group 6 comp always has been. Don't understand why the club would prefer the inner city which has limited growth compared to a rapidly growing area that not only provides more juniors but also more business opportunities.
 
@cochise said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297902) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297899) said:
Looks pretty deliberate.

Wests Ashfield wouldn't stand by and allow it to happen if it's on their dime.

Honestly reckon they want to return to being a inner city team (rightly or wrongly.) Ashfield wants to be closer to the ancestral home and it also fits in with the Leichhardt narrative.

A mate of mine has said the Campbelltown juniors is a shambles. There maybe people with differing opinions and I'd like to hear from them but his partners son plays in the Campbelltown comp and the quality he reckons is dreadful. Maybe that's why WT might be stepping back. An opportunity to "come home" for the Magpies, solidify the inner west and keep local.

Again, this is all supposition from what has happened and doesn't reflect my view. I think we should try to maintain our MacArthur presence. Wests have been in the area for nearly thirty years.

Honestly, Wests Ashfield are not heavily involved in decision making at the club. The Wests Tigers really runs as its own entity for all intends and purposes.

The Wests tigers board after largely members of the ashfield board arnt they?
 
@cochise said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297902) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297899) said:
Looks pretty deliberate.

Wests Ashfield wouldn't stand by and allow it to happen if it's on their dime.

Honestly reckon they want to return to being a inner city team (rightly or wrongly.) Ashfield wants to be closer to the ancestral home and it also fits in with the Leichhardt narrative.

A mate of mine has said the Campbelltown juniors is a shambles. There maybe people with differing opinions and I'd like to hear from them but his partners son plays in the Campbelltown comp and the quality he reckons is dreadful. Maybe that's why WT might be stepping back. An opportunity to "come home" for the Magpies, solidify the inner west and keep local.

Again, this is all supposition from what has happened and doesn't reflect my view. I think we should try to maintain our MacArthur presence. Wests have been in the area for nearly thirty years.

Honestly, Wests Ashfield are not heavily involved in decision making at the club. The Wests Tigers really runs as its own entity for all intends and purposes.

Wests directors have the majority don't they?
 
@jc99 said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297903) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297899) said:
Looks pretty deliberate.

Wests Ashfield wouldn't stand by and allow it to happen if it's on their dime.

Honestly reckon they want to return to being a inner city team (rightly or wrongly.) Ashfield wants to be closer to the ancestral home and it also fits in with the Leichhardt narrative.

A mate of mine has said the Campbelltown juniors is a shambles. There maybe people with differing opinions and I'd like to hear from them but his partners son plays in the Campbelltown comp and the quality he reckons is dreadful. Maybe that's why WT might be stepping back. An opportunity to "come home" for the Magpies, solidify the inner west and keep local.

Again, this is all supposition from what has happened and doesn't reflect my view. I think we should try to maintain our MacArthur presence. Wests have been in the area for nearly thirty years.

Plenty of talent in the group 6 comp always has been. Don't understand why the club would prefer the inner city which has limited growth compared to a rapidly growing area that not only provides more juniors but also more business opportunities.

Yeah fair enough I was taking the opinion of someone who has been observing the juniors comp in Campbelltown. Maybe they are a hard marker, maybe they are just being plain unfair.
 
@gallagher said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297904) said:
@cochise said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297902) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297899) said:
Looks pretty deliberate.

Wests Ashfield wouldn't stand by and allow it to happen if it's on their dime.

Honestly reckon they want to return to being a inner city team (rightly or wrongly.) Ashfield wants to be closer to the ancestral home and it also fits in with the Leichhardt narrative.

A mate of mine has said the Campbelltown juniors is a shambles. There maybe people with differing opinions and I'd like to hear from them but his partners son plays in the Campbelltown comp and the quality he reckons is dreadful. Maybe that's why WT might be stepping back. An opportunity to "come home" for the Magpies, solidify the inner west and keep local.

Again, this is all supposition from what has happened and doesn't reflect my view. I think we should try to maintain our MacArthur presence. Wests have been in the area for nearly thirty years.

Honestly, Wests Ashfield are not heavily involved in decision making at the club. The Wests Tigers really runs as its own entity for all intends and purposes.

The Wests tigers board after largely members of the ashfield board arnt they?



@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297905) said:
@cochise said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297902) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297899) said:
Looks pretty deliberate.

Wests Ashfield wouldn't stand by and allow it to happen if it's on their dime.

Honestly reckon they want to return to being a inner city team (rightly or wrongly.) Ashfield wants to be closer to the ancestral home and it also fits in with the Leichhardt narrative.

A mate of mine has said the Campbelltown juniors is a shambles. There maybe people with differing opinions and I'd like to hear from them but his partners son plays in the Campbelltown comp and the quality he reckons is dreadful. Maybe that's why WT might be stepping back. An opportunity to "come home" for the Magpies, solidify the inner west and keep local.

Again, this is all supposition from what has happened and doesn't reflect my view. I think we should try to maintain our MacArthur presence. Wests have been in the area for nearly thirty years.

Honestly, Wests Ashfield are not heavily involved in decision making at the club. The Wests Tigers really runs as its own entity for all intends and purposes.

Wests directors have the majority don't they?

They are but there is barely a relationship between the Wests Tigers and Wests Ashfield. Its a strange situation and hard to explain, but do you noticed the club very rarely holds events and functions at the Wests Ashfield? Ashfield doesn't use players for promotions etc. Compare the difference when you walk into Penrith Panthers or the Eels leagues club.

They hold the directors on the board but I don't feel they are influencing the direction of the club.
 
@cochise said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297908) said:
@gallagher said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297904) said:
@cochise said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297902) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297899) said:
Looks pretty deliberate.

Wests Ashfield wouldn't stand by and allow it to happen if it's on their dime.

Honestly reckon they want to return to being a inner city team (rightly or wrongly.) Ashfield wants to be closer to the ancestral home and it also fits in with the Leichhardt narrative.

A mate of mine has said the Campbelltown juniors is a shambles. There maybe people with differing opinions and I'd like to hear from them but his partners son plays in the Campbelltown comp and the quality he reckons is dreadful. Maybe that's why WT might be stepping back. An opportunity to "come home" for the Magpies, solidify the inner west and keep local.

Again, this is all supposition from what has happened and doesn't reflect my view. I think we should try to maintain our MacArthur presence. Wests have been in the area for nearly thirty years.

Honestly, Wests Ashfield are not heavily involved in decision making at the club. The Wests Tigers really runs as its own entity for all intends and purposes.

The Wests tigers board after largely members of the ashfield board arnt they?



@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297905) said:
@cochise said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297902) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Lost opportunity in Macarthur](/post/1297899) said:
Looks pretty deliberate.

Wests Ashfield wouldn't stand by and allow it to happen if it's on their dime.

Honestly reckon they want to return to being a inner city team (rightly or wrongly.) Ashfield wants to be closer to the ancestral home and it also fits in with the Leichhardt narrative.

A mate of mine has said the Campbelltown juniors is a shambles. There maybe people with differing opinions and I'd like to hear from them but his partners son plays in the Campbelltown comp and the quality he reckons is dreadful. Maybe that's why WT might be stepping back. An opportunity to "come home" for the Magpies, solidify the inner west and keep local.

Again, this is all supposition from what has happened and doesn't reflect my view. I think we should try to maintain our MacArthur presence. Wests have been in the area for nearly thirty years.

Honestly, Wests Ashfield are not heavily involved in decision making at the club. The Wests Tigers really runs as its own entity for all intends and purposes.

Wests directors have the majority don't they?

They are but there is barely a relationship between the Wests Tigers and Wests Ashfield. Its a strange situation and hard to explain, but do you noticed the club very rarely holds events and functions at the Wests Ashfield? Ashfield doesn't use players for promotions etc.

They hold the directors on the board but I don't feel they are influencing the direction of the club.

Well it wouldn't be us if it wasn't complicated.
 

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